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Post by The General on Jun 26, 2022 20:30:55 GMT
😂😂😂
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 26, 2022 20:34:20 GMT
As it stands we have all the key players from last season when most expected top six so not sure why people so downbeat Not quite mate. We're minus two strikers in Gray and Austin (yes, in THAT order lol).
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Post by West Acton on Jun 26, 2022 20:46:13 GMT
As it stands we have all the key players from last season when most expected top six so not sure why people so downbeat Not quite mate. We're minus two strikers in Gray and Austin (yes, in THAT order lol). gray I can entertain. No way was Austin a key player last season not even going debate that. Was past it
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 26, 2022 20:51:05 GMT
Not quite mate. We're minus two strikers in Gray and Austin (yes, in THAT order lol). gray I can entertain. No way was Austin a key player last season not even going debate that. Was past it Sure, but Gray was a key player as he was a striker, and hasn't been replaced as of yet. Re Austin, totally agree with you, but that's only with the benefit of hindsight that no one knew coming off the back of his previous season. Main point though is we are undoubtedly weaker at this point in time WRT strikers - a key position of the squad - man for man. What MB is able to achieve with Armstrong, Dykes, Bonne and Kelman is an unknown quantity right now, which isn't to say I'm not optimistic he can get more out of them than Warburton.
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 26, 2022 21:22:40 GMT
Not quite mate. We're minus two strikers in Gray and Austin (yes, in THAT order lol). gray I can entertain. No way was Austin a key player last season not even going debate that. Was past it Totally agree mate. Bonne steps him where Austin left. Both will score a winner or 2 but essentially ain't up to the job.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 26, 2022 21:40:34 GMT
Did you two miss the irony in my comments in brackets? 😎
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Post by alanwycombe on Jun 26, 2022 21:45:48 GMT
If they really are not that worried about strikers then presumably the thinking is get more ball into them and they’ll be ok. Might work. Then again……….
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 26, 2022 21:50:09 GMT
If they really are not that worried about strikers then presumably the thinking is get more ball into them and they’ll be ok. Might work. Then again………. Shhhh....the cunning plan is to play with a rotating false 9 all season! 😎
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 26, 2022 22:01:51 GMT
I'd imagine the plan is to bring in 1 striker and see if we can coach a bit more out of the strikers already here.
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Post by 1qprdk on Jun 26, 2022 23:33:03 GMT
I'd imagine the plan is to bring in 1 striker and see if we can coach a bit more out of the strikers already here. That would be the reasonable move, as Armstrong and Kelman are only 19 and 20 respectively, and can't be expected to be regulars yet. The only senior 'strikers' we have are the donkeys, so unless MB wants to play one up top as default, we need a goalscorer before the window closes.
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Post by MattyRangers on Jun 27, 2022 8:11:13 GMT
What's the difference between managing and coaching? Vastly different roles. Coaching is purely technical, whereas being a manager involves managing people, egos, the dressing room etc etc. Whole different skill set. There's been many a top coach fail in the hot seat; prime example that springs to mind being Paul Clement. That's not for a minute me suggesting Beale will fail btw, just answering the question. I am quietly confident Beale will be a success.
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 1, 2022 21:09:02 GMT
phenomenal work rate from him Rich man's Conor Washington. Harsh? Shane could still do a job at this level I reckon. CW was nowhere near. What is it with us and strikers? You'd think Les had never had a 9 on his back in his life judging by some of the crap that's played up top on his watch.
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Post by West Acton on Jul 2, 2022 5:35:59 GMT
As Hal says long in different league to Conor. When did Conor suddenly become a high work rate player? I thought he trudged about pitch not high energy at all
Better comparison is Mackie another limited player who never really scored who ran about abit not offering much more
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Post by 1qprdk on Jul 2, 2022 8:28:10 GMT
Rich man's Conor Washington. Harsh? Shane could still do a job at this level I reckon. CW was nowhere near. What is it with us and strikers? You'd think Les had never had a 9 on his back in his life judging by some of the crap that's played up top on his watch. Shane Long would fit right in the long list of Donkeys.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 2, 2022 10:47:45 GMT
Are we really trying to make a case for Shane Long here?
Just what we need, another striker who never fucking scores! 🤣
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 2, 2022 11:55:16 GMT
Are we really trying to make a case for Shane Long here? Just what we need, another striker who never fucking scores! 🤣 No. We're saying him vs CW = no contest. We also have to remember that currently we have no strikers at all with any sort of track record at this level.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 2, 2022 14:49:06 GMT
And with Shane Long, we'd have another striker with no track record at this level! 🤣🤦🏼♂️
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 2, 2022 15:00:12 GMT
And with Shane Long, we'd have another striker with no track record at this level! 🤣🤦🏼♂️ Just a little matter of 41 championship goals. And compared to Dykes he puts in a 90m shift. That doesn't make him a target but the fact is he's still a striker and like I say, we don't have one of those.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 2, 2022 15:03:30 GMT
And with Shane Long, we'd have another striker with no track record at this level! 🤣🤦🏼♂️ Just a little matter of 41 championship goals. And compared to Dykes he puts in a 90m shift. That doesn't make him a target but the fact is he's still a striker and like I say, we don't have one of those. Spread across 6 seasons in the Championship mate? Much worse goals per game record at this level than Dykes. But never let the truth get in the way of a good story, hey? 🤣
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 2, 2022 15:11:15 GMT
Just a little matter of 41 championship goals. And compared to Dykes he puts in a 90m shift. That doesn't make him a target but the fact is he's still a striker and like I say, we don't have one of those. Spread across 6 seasons in the Championship mate? Much worse goals per game record at this level than Dykes. But never let the truth get in the way of a good story, hey? 🤣 Dykes mpg Championship= 645 Shane Long mpg Championship = 194 And minutes per goal is the stat that counts if you're a striker.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 2, 2022 15:46:20 GMT
Gonna need to ask you to show your working on that one mate! 🤣
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Post by Bill on Jul 2, 2022 15:55:20 GMT
Going well eh Tarbs
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 2, 2022 17:02:26 GMT
Gonna need to ask you to show your working on that one mate! 🤣 Clarification as requested It's actually worse than I thought, his record in the championship Scotland was abysmal and that's where the 645 mpg comes from. WTF were we thinking? In the Championship in England he's still worse than Long at the same level: 194 (Long) vs 274 (Dykes). Source: Transfermarket.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 2, 2022 17:27:00 GMT
Both are a sack of shit then?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 2, 2022 17:36:03 GMT
I’d rather Andy goram up front rip,
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Post by Bill on Jul 2, 2022 17:54:53 GMT
I’d rather Andy goram up front rip, Yes he could ghost past defenders. It's 2 poundland time again.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 2, 2022 18:19:45 GMT
Rip to "The Goalie". Fucking legend in my house is that man!
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Post by Bill on Jul 3, 2022 10:06:19 GMT
Plenty of strikers at the club even though their shit or untried.
Plenty of time left.😂
To fuck it up again
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Post by The General on Jul 3, 2022 15:31:39 GMT
Still think we need at least three to four quality signing as we are too lightweight atm
This is going to be a seriously hard season this year in the championship some great teams
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Post by The General on Jul 3, 2022 15:32:30 GMT
Not being pessimistic just being realistic
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