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Post by Shania on Jul 23, 2022 18:44:09 GMT
Johansen is the same player he was last season, taking passes off defenders, then returning the pass backwards putting his teamate under pressure.When he did attempt forward incisive passes they never found their target.Adomah was poor again just like he was against Wealdstone.Club should not have renewed his contract imo. Dykes ran around a bit but never looks likely to score unless the planets align and the ball falls kindly for him. Kakay was decent but started to make mistakes in the second half. Dozzell was largely anonymous but did play 2 defence splitting passes which puts him ahead of Johansen for me. With no movement in front of him, what is he supposed to do? |
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Post by sparks on Jul 23, 2022 18:48:23 GMT
Today we saw similar to last season, Kakay and Johansen falling asleep for the first goal.
Zaha running towards our penalty area unopposed as none of MF players were covering a quick break.
Dickie getting exposed and roasted for pace by Zaha.
Field desperately trying to get back to cover when opponents had were bearing down on goal.
It seems crazy for Beale to be encouraging Field to try to be a box to box player when Johansen is never going to provide cover if we lose possession.
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Post by West Acton on Jul 23, 2022 18:54:44 GMT
Albert and Dickie at fault for first imo
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Post by sparks on Jul 23, 2022 18:55:31 GMT
Johansen is the same player he was last season, taking passes off defenders, then returning the pass backwards putting his teamate under pressure.When he did attempt forward incisive passes they never found their target. With no movement in front of him, what is he supposed to do? When he receives the ball off our defenders he is facing our goal.He needs to be as Beale explained “position his body so he’s able to see both goals then he gives himself an option to pick a forward pass” |
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Post by acricketer on Jul 23, 2022 19:00:05 GMT
So 19 players featured today, 4 injured ready for next week. 2 more loans in to make up the 25?
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Post by Shania on Jul 23, 2022 19:02:48 GMT
With no movement in front of him, what is he supposed to do? When he receives the ball off our defenders he is facing our goal.He needs to be as Beale explained “position his body so he’s able to see both goals then he gives himself an option to pick a forward pass” I can see what you mean and in that respect he is a defensive minded player, I guess. |
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Post by sparks on Jul 23, 2022 19:10:50 GMT
Albert and Dickie at fault for first imo I may have confused Kakay with Adomah..Johansen and Adomah were closest to the the ball and I would expect would be assigned the blame for not closing him down quicker. Why are you suggesting Dickie was at fault? |
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Post by The General on Jul 23, 2022 19:51:34 GMT
Back down to earth today big time
Hope this doesnt dent the confidence
Stil zero strength in depth one week till start
Really hope we are ok this season
Blackburn away they will kill us
However if we are shit some on here need to
Eat some humple pie big time
If we are good i will hold my hands up as usual
I have no confidence at all in the squad this season
We will see shortly
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Jul 23, 2022 20:02:25 GMT
I honestly think we will be surprised how well we will do this season.it could be blind optimism on my part, but think with Mick Beale in charge and the injured players back in the squad,we will be a decent outfit. Bring in a couple more n the jobs a good un.
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Post by The General on Jul 23, 2022 20:13:17 GMT
I honestly think we will be surprised how well we will do this season.it could be blind optimism on my part, but think with Mick Beale in charge and the injured players back in the squad,we will be a decent outfit. Bring in a couple more n the jobs a good un. Totally disagree with this But hope your right Norfolk Up the Rs |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 23, 2022 20:16:47 GMT
Albert and Dickie at fault for first imo I may have confused Kakay with Adomah..Johansen and Adomah were closest to the the ball and I would expect would be assigned the blame for not closing him down quicker. Why are you suggesting Dickie was at fault? sorry meant dozzell. Would expect them close space quicker |
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Post by Shania on Jul 23, 2022 20:21:53 GMT
Back down to earth today big time Hope this doesnt dent the confidence Stil zero strength in depth one week till start Really hope we are ok this season Blackburn away they will kill us However if we are shit some on here need to
Eat some humple pie big time If we are good i will hold my hands up as usual I have no confidence at all in the squad this season We will see shortly Why? Seriously. Aren`t we all in this together. To my understanding, we are QPR supporters every single one of us. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 23, 2022 20:26:57 GMT
A wake up call for Beale. Should have learn't a lot from this. Can't read too much into the result though again a top half PL team. No surprise there at all, especially with Willock, Tyler and Amos all out, and Richards still to come in. All four of those will be available next week: |
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Jul 23, 2022 20:28:15 GMT
Totally disagree with this But hope your right Norfolk Up the Rs I just think as a fanbase we big up the opposition teams to much,from my what I've seen,there isn't much to choose between a lot of the clubs in the league. Could be the beer talking tho,as have had a few......cheers. |
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Post by The General on Jul 23, 2022 20:52:37 GMT
Back down to earth today big time Hope this doesnt dent the confidence Stil zero strength in depth one week till start Really hope we are ok this season Blackburn away they will kill us However if we are shit some on here need to
Eat some humple pie big time If we are good i will hold my hands up as usual I have no confidence at all in the squad this season We will see shortly Why? Seriously. Aren`t we all in this together. To my understanding, we are QPR supporters every single one of us. What are you talking about anyone on here that Disagrees that we are worse than last season Gets slaughtered |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 23, 2022 21:27:01 GMT
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Post by sparks on Jul 23, 2022 21:39:46 GMT
I may have confused Kakay with Adomah..Johansen and Adomah were closest to the the ball and I would expect would be assigned the blame for not closing him down quicker. Why are you suggesting Dickie was at fault? sorry meant dozzell. Would expect them close space quicker If you freeze the video when free kick is played look at the starting distances from Adomah, Dozzell and Johansen when the ball is played to Eze. Both Adomah is slow to react,Dozzell try’s to makes the most distance up, Johansen is virtually stationary throughout all the action until the ball hits the net. I can’t make out who it is behind Adomah that is more worried about his wedding tackle but basically runs behind Adomah to avoid being hit imo. I would guess it’s more than 2 to blame as Seny would be expected to also do better. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Jul 23, 2022 22:44:18 GMT
I like the cut of that man's jibe. He is very impressive in these interviews. Extremely so.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 24, 2022 0:23:40 GMT
Back down to earth today big time Hope this doesnt dent the confidence Stil zero strength in depth one week till start Really hope we are ok this season Blackburn away they will kill us However if we are shit some on here need to Eat some humple pie big time If we are good i will hold my hands up as usual I have no confidence at all in the squad this season We will see shortly Only way I'll be eating humble pie is if we're bang in trouble 10-15 games in. That's how long I'll give Beale before making a judgement. Said it before and I'll always stick by it, pre-season results have absolutely no bearing on the season, whether it's an 8-2 win or a 3-0 loss. |
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Post by Bill on Jul 24, 2022 8:08:26 GMT
Back down to earth today big time Hope this doesnt dent the confidence Stil zero strength in depth one week till start Really hope we are ok this season Blackburn away they will kill us However if we are shit some on here need to Eat some humple pie big time If we are good i will hold my hands up as usual I have no confidence at all in the squad this season We will see shortly Only way I'll be eating humble pie is if we're bang in trouble 10-15 games in. That's how long I'll give Beale before making a judgement. Said it before and I'll always stick by it, pre-season results have absolutely no bearing on the season, whether it's an 8-2 win or a 3-0 loss. Momentum is a good habit to have and it breeds confidence |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 24, 2022 10:14:09 GMT
Said it before and I'll always stick by it, pre-season results have absolutely no bearing on the season, whether it's an 8-2 win or a 3-0 loss. As has always been the case. Examples: Man Utd and Leicester last pre-season. Pre-season is primarily about building fitness and learning the new system. |
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Post by sparks on Jul 24, 2022 10:28:37 GMT
I would tend to agree with Bills comment, although we looked sluggish in that first half against Millwall (Johansen was great second half) those games against Man U and Leicester gave us the confidence to start the season very well.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 24, 2022 10:40:03 GMT
those games against Man U and Leicester gave us the confidence to start the season very well. The point being their results had zero bearing on how the season transpired; as is always the case with pre-season. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jul 24, 2022 10:54:06 GMT
those games against Man U and Leicester gave us the confidence to start the season very well. The point being their results had zero bearing on how the season transpired; as is always the case with pre-season. I would disagree. We started very well because of very inspiring pre-season. What happened February has nothing to do with pre-season anymore. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 24, 2022 10:58:55 GMT
The point being their results had zero bearing on how the season transpired; as is always the case with pre-season. I would disagree. We started very well because of very inspiring pre-season. What happened February has nothing to do with pre-season anymore. Ok, two further examples for you: When we went up as champions in 2011 under Warnock our last two pre-season games were Crawley 2 QPR 0 QPR 1 Plymouth 1 I could go on... Results are meaningless in pre-season as they're not competitive games. Again, it's primarily about building fitness and learning the new system. |
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Post by sparks on Jul 24, 2022 11:00:31 GMT
those games against Man U and Leicester gave us the confidence to start the season very well. The point being their results had zero bearing on how the season transpired; as is always the case with pre-season. Man U, Liecester had in both their cases poor seasons in the Prem, coincidence ? Notching up cricket score wins in Cornwall under Warnock, then going on a 19 match unbeaten run , coincidence ? Confidence in yourself is everything in sport and in your work place, winning or succeeding breeds confidence. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 24, 2022 11:06:26 GMT
Man U, Liecester had in both their cases poor seasons in the Prem, coincidence ? As per my 2nd examples above, for as many like this, you can provide as many examples to support the counter. So it doesn't really prove anything. In the grand scheme of things pre-season score-lines really have negligible bearing on how a season turns out. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 24, 2022 11:16:20 GMT
Johansen is the same player he was last season, taking passes off defenders, then returning the pass backwards putting his teamate under pressure.When he did attempt forward incisive passes they never found their target.Adomah was poor again just like he was against Wealdstone.Club should not have renewed his contract imo. Dykes ran around a bit but never looks likely to score unless the planets align and the ball falls kindly for him. Kakay was decent but started to make mistakes in the second half. Dozzell was largely anonymous but did play 2 defence splitting passes which puts him ahead of Johansen for me. With no movement in front of him, what is he supposed to do? Like I said on previous Johansen related thread, it dont matter who is in front of him. He slows the game down and his legs look gone to me. Just imo. |
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Post by sparks on Jul 24, 2022 11:26:18 GMT
With no movement in front of him, what is he supposed to do? Like I said on previous Johansen related thread, it dont matter who is in front of him. He slows the game down and his legs look gone to me. Just imo. Problem is Dozzell has already shown to be sloppy and too casual in his passing around our own penalty area in a couple of pre season matches. Field has’nt got the necessary technique imo to play that deep lying role, who else can? |
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Post by Corbray on Jul 24, 2022 11:29:32 GMT
The point being their results had zero bearing on how the season transpired; as is always the case with pre-season. Man U, Liecester had in both their cases poor seasons in the Prem, coincidence ? Notching up cricket score wins in Cornwall under Warnock, then going on a 19 match unbeaten run , coincidence ? Confidence in yourself is everything in sport and in your work place, winning or succeeding breeds confidence. coventry lost nearly every one of their preaseason games last year yet still had a cracking season |
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