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Post by Corbray on Aug 6, 2022 20:23:53 GMT
tbh i didn't think paal or kakay had good games. they were both as bad as eachother imo. bad might be a harsh word, lacklustre maybe but i actually felt more nervous whenever they attacked paal rather than kakay.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 6, 2022 20:25:06 GMT
When he ran the ball to the corner flag with 6 minutes still to play that pissed me off to be honest. 1 or 2 fair enough but not fucking 6, then continuing that for the rest of the game, to the extent Kakay even gets a fucking yellow for time wasting.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 6, 2022 20:30:34 GMT
Huge three points against a side that will definitely be there or there abouts There was a hell of a lot of negative posts in the build up to this match. So I hope at least some of those posters can take a bit of encouragement and confidence from today's game. Especially considering we had so many vital players out. To think we still have Roberts, Richards, Salter, and Armstrong all to come back that's a massive amount of talent missing today and makes today's result even more impressive as imagine what we'll be like at full strength.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 6, 2022 21:36:34 GMT
Huge three points against a side that will definitely be there or there abouts There was a hell of a lot of negative posts in the build up to this match. So I hope at least some of those posters can take a bit of encouragement and confidence from today's game. Especially considering we had some many vital players out. To think we still have Roberts, Richards, Salter, and Armstrong all to come back that's a massive amount of talent missing today and makes today's result even more impressive as imagine what we'll be like at full strength. Definitely. We showed how intense we could be in that first 40mins, that was the best I've seen us play in a good while. I wasn't impressed with how we seemed to forget how to play football and let them get 2 goals back but after their second I felt we did very well to grind out the win (albeit with a bit of luck ie their disallowed equaliser). Boro will be right up there this season so this is a very good result.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 6, 2022 21:42:10 GMT
There was a hell of a lot of negative posts in the build up to this match. So I hope at least some of those posters can take a bit of encouragement and confidence from today's game. Especially considering we had some many vital players out. To think we still have Roberts, Richards, Salter, and Armstrong all to come back that's a massive amount of talent missing today and makes today's result even more impressive as imagine what we'll be like at full strength. Definitely. We showed how intense we could be in that first 40mins, that was the best I've seen us play in a good while. I wasn't impressed with how we seemed to forget how to play football and let them get 2 goals back but after their second I felt we did very well to grind out the win (albeit with a bit of luck ie their disallowed equaliser). Boro will be right up there this season so this is a very good result. I agree Ginge. That first 30 mins was simply sublime. If that’s a sign of things to come then we’re in for some cracking football this season
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 6, 2022 22:19:08 GMT
Definitely. We showed how intense we could be in that first 40mins, that was the best I've seen us play in a good while. I wasn't impressed with how we seemed to forget how to play football and let them get 2 goals back but after their second I felt we did very well to grind out the win (albeit with a bit of luck ie their disallowed equaliser). Boro will be right up there this season so this is a very good result. I agree Ginge. That first 30 mins was simply sublime. If that’s a sign of things to come then we’re in for some cracking football this season Gotta remember too that we're very much a club still in transition. We have a new man in charge who needs to be given time, we have players to come back and players to begin with us and to bed in. Once everything and everyone is settled we could see more performances like that and less like the second half. I hope.
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 7, 2022 8:51:18 GMT
I’m sure adrenaline comes into it but anyone notice how much fitter Boro were second half? A couple of their breaks left us standing and hoping.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 7, 2022 8:51:42 GMT
Just read through this thread and am very surprised at the general negative vibe on what I thought was a brilliant gritty win. We've probably witnessed goal of the season and a fantastic save from Seny. I would have gladly settled for a point before the game started but that first half was fantastic. We pressed them and forced mistakes. All three goals actually came from us getting possession from their mistakes. Boro are a good side with a great manager and were always going to have a go to get back. It looked ominous but after the subs we looked far more settled. They should have been made earlier but we now know why the bench was so weak. We are very early in a new managers tenure with several key players out. It was a great deserved win on a truly great day at HQ with everything else that was celebrated. I loved it.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 7, 2022 9:21:53 GMT
First goal came from Amos reading the pass intercepting and giving to Willock
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Post by West Acton on Aug 7, 2022 9:31:03 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 7, 2022 9:32:28 GMT
First goal came from Amos reading the pass intercepting and giving to Willock Yes, via Field who made the assist.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 7, 2022 9:34:37 GMT
First goal came from Amos reading the pass intercepting and giving to Willock It did and if that were us we would have said we had gifted possession.
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Post by acricketer on Aug 7, 2022 10:20:28 GMT
It's also nice to see us looking to pass forward or carry the ball from the back rather than all that side to side crap last season.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 7, 2022 19:12:29 GMT
Do we need them to score goals? They should come from Striker, Willock, Chair and Amos. 4 attacking threats is more than enough. Well, they weren't breaking up attacks second half, sitting deep and chasing shadows. Beale discussed this in his post-match interviews. Check the Mick Beale thread. His explanations were interesting and made sense.
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Post by sparks on Aug 7, 2022 20:45:23 GMT
I’ve seen MB video a couple of times, MB explains that the defence dropped too deep and the gaps between them and MF was too big.
Although Boro are a decent side I honestly don’t think any of their players on the day looked to be particularly high quality
Problem for me and what some others have picked up on was the MF was overrun, it highlights that we are short of another capable DMF player when teams pressurise us.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 7, 2022 20:53:38 GMT
First goal came from Amos reading the pass intercepting and giving to Willock Yes, via Field who made the assist. He was excellent yesterday
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Post by Shania on Aug 7, 2022 21:03:37 GMT
Don`t forget that Stefan took a knock in the first half. In the second half Dozzell substituted him and did a good job. Who knows, Perhaps Dozzell is capable of playing full matches in that position when called upon.
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Post by sparks on Aug 7, 2022 21:28:07 GMT
My comment wasn’t particularly aimed at Johansen Shania, we’ve seen under even MW when opponents are looking for an equaliser or winning goal he would bring on somebody like Dom Ball to break up play, that was the type of player missing from the subs bench yesterday.
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Post by MattyRangers on Aug 8, 2022 6:39:50 GMT
Yes, via Field who made the assist. He was excellent yesterday Field was fantastic, as he usually is. Very much an unsung hero for me, does that role fo his so so well, breaks play up & knits things together nicely. Has so much energy too. First name on the team sheet for me. Which leads me on to Dunne; so glad he played as well as he did (not to mention the goal). I have nothing at all against JCS, but Dunne is our best CB (IMHO) and has to start if fit. All in all was really pleased Saturday. Going into the game I fully expected us to get beaten tbh, but we absolutely flew out of the blocks & looked superb. Obviously in typical Rangers fashion we done our best to fark it up lol but showed great grit & determination to hold on & that'll give the dressing room a bundle of confidence moving forward.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 8, 2022 7:09:14 GMT
He was excellent yesterday Field was fantastic, as he usually is. Very much an unsung hero for me, does that role fo his so so well, breaks play up & knits things together nicely. Has so much energy too. First name on the team sheet for me. Which leads me on to Dunne; so glad he played as well as he did (not to mention the goal). I have nothing at all against JCS, but Dunne is our best CB (IMHO) and has to start if fit. All in all was really pleased Saturday. Going into the game I fully expected us to get beaten tbh, but we absolutely flew out of the blocks & looked superb. Obviously in typical Rangers fashion we done our best to fark it up lol but showed great grit & determination to hold on & that'll give the dressing room a bundle of confidence moving forward. good post Matty only area debate for me is Dunne. Bloody good defender proper heart and soul but Dickie when he’s on form prob shades Him, but he’s flakey and the cameos of seen of Salter I think he will be better then both. Lucky to have three such good options and keeper behind them. Build from the back
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Post by MattyRangers on Aug 8, 2022 7:10:14 GMT
Field was fantastic, as he usually is. Very much an unsung hero for me, does that role fo his so so well, breaks play up & knits things together nicely. Has so much energy too. First name on the team sheet for me. Which leads me on to Dunne; so glad he played as well as he did (not to mention the goal). I have nothing at all against JCS, but Dunne is our best CB (IMHO) and has to start if fit. All in all was really pleased Saturday. Going into the game I fully expected us to get beaten tbh, but we absolutely flew out of the blocks & looked superb. Obviously in typical Rangers fashion we done our best to fark it up lol but showed great grit & determination to hold on & that'll give the dressing room a bundle of confidence moving forward. good post Matty only area debate for me is Dunne. Bloody good defender proper heart and soul but Dickie when he’s on form prob shades Him, but he’s flakey and the cameos of seen of Salter I think he will be better then both. Lucky to have three such good options and keeper behind them. Build from the back Bang on with the closing line mate, great 'issue' to have.
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Post by 1973ranger on Aug 8, 2022 7:11:26 GMT
Field was fantastic, as he usually is. Very much an unsung hero for me, does that role fo his so so well, breaks play up & knits things together nicely. Has so much energy too. First name on the team sheet for me. Which leads me on to Dunne; so glad he played as well as he did (not to mention the goal). I have nothing at all against JCS, but Dunne is our best CB (IMHO) and has to start if fit. All in all was really pleased Saturday. Going into the game I fully expected us to get beaten tbh, but we absolutely flew out of the blocks & looked superb. Obviously in typical Rangers fashion we done our best to fark it up lol but showed great grit & determination to hold on & that'll give the dressing room a bundle of confidence moving forward. good post Matty only area debate for me is Dunne. Bloody good defender proper heart and soul but Dickie when he’s on form prob shades Him, but he’s flakey and the cameos of seen of Salter I think he will be better then both. Lucky to have three such good options and keeper behind them. Build from the back Good centre backs but woeful at RB. Hard to build with that being the case. I like Kakay but just not good enough
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 8, 2022 9:57:09 GMT
He was excellent yesterday Field was fantastic, as he usually is. Very much an unsung hero for me, does that role fo his so so well, breaks play up & knits things together nicely. Has so much energy too. First name on the team sheet for me. I'm usually a critic of his if I'm honest Matty, he's never looked very good to me and often found he went missing in games more often than not. Saturday though he was everywhere, tackling was superb, put his body on the line a few times, great on the ball. Hoping for more.of the same from him. I can see why Beale spoke so highly of him in pre-season.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 8, 2022 10:12:53 GMT
Dunne never sure about. Brilliant blood and guts stuff in the Stevie Wicks, Alan Mac tradition - but unlike them he does commit a lot of errors (harsh to compare him to those legends, I admit). But two big errors again on Sat. Fair play tho - recovered and made some towering headers late on. Really needs to eliminate the stream of errors then he could develop into a great defender.
As others have said great to have the competition - Dickie looking more like his old self too.
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 8, 2022 10:27:15 GMT
Got the impression Saturday, and said to Tarbs, he was trying hard to take his opportunity to stay in the side and occasionally tried too hard. Overall decent game though and I like him a lot.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 8, 2022 11:22:07 GMT
Dunne never sure about. Brilliant blood and guts stuff in the Stevie Wicks, Alan Mac tradition - but unlike them he does commit a lot of errors (harsh to compare him to those legends, I admit). But two big errors again on Sat. Fair play tho - recovered and made some towering headers late on. Really needs to eliminate the stream of errors then he could develop into a great defender. As others have said great to have the competition - Dickie looking more like his old self too. this is more or less how I view him. Proper old fashioned blood and guts defender but does give you something if your an attacker. Defo want him in side for a dirty nasty physical battle. I am a big fan of his
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 8, 2022 12:11:08 GMT
I’ve seen MB video a couple of times, MB explains that the defence dropped too deep and the gaps between them and MF was too big. Although Boro are a decent side I honestly don’t think any of their players on the day looked to be particularly high quality Problem for me and what some others have picked up on was the MF was overrun, it highlights that we are short of another capable DMF player when teams pressurise us. This. But MB is spot on too. In other words, the minute our back line started sitting deep, MF got shredded and they got in the space between with freedom to run at us. So the unanswered question is - why did these things start happening? Why did we back off? It's not like we were playing Real Madrid. Reckon we dont have the confidence yet to boss it for an hour or more. Or maybe a fitness thing?
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 8, 2022 12:16:13 GMT
I’ve seen MB video a couple of times, MB explains that the defence dropped too deep and the gaps between them and MF was too big. Although Boro are a decent side I honestly don’t think any of their players on the day looked to be particularly high quality Problem for me and what some others have picked up on was the MF was overrun, it highlights that we are short of another capable DMF player when teams pressurise us. This. But MB is spot on too. In other words, the minute our back line started sitting deep, MF got shredded and they got in the space between with freedom to run at us. So the unanswered question is - why did these things start happening? Why did we back off? It's not like we were playing Real Madrid. Reckon we dont have the confidence yet to boss it for an hour or more. Or maybe a fitness thing? MB explained that too in his interviews. He put it down to lack of confidence, following on from end of last season. I'd agree with him as it showed on the pitch. But he definitely sees that as an area we can improve on with more work. A work in progress for sure as it's still so early days in his tenure especially with adapting to all the ins and outs of players. Again, there's so much talent still to return from injury too. Impressed also how he never used this as an excuse.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Aug 8, 2022 12:23:23 GMT
Definitely need a RB. Boro knew it was a weak area and targeted Kakay all day.
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Post by sparks on Aug 8, 2022 12:29:08 GMT
MB also mentioned that it didn’t matter how many times he spoke ‘to the younger players pitch side’ the excitement of the game meant they didn’t listen.
If that was the case then it was up to the captain to get the back line up the pitch.
I would say other than Field there’s no one capable in that MF to break up play
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