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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 27, 2022 7:19:22 GMT
So they pony and they not impressed and going to ship some out, but late in window to get shot. Should of been obvious after pre season and first 2 games.
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Post by Bill on Aug 27, 2022 8:19:46 GMT
To slow throughout the team and club
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 27, 2022 20:21:14 GMT
Don't want to make too much of it when we've just got an excellent three points but more mixed messages from Beale today - post match he said we were a good team which just needed more belief. Yet just a couple of days ago in West London Sport - which acts as a kind of in-house journal when QPR management are happy to leak something - an anonymous source apparently familiar with Beale's thinking said he had given up on our midfield and wanted replacements.
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Post by acricketer on Aug 27, 2022 21:08:30 GMT
They gave him something to ponder on today. Thought our midfield were excellent.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 27, 2022 21:15:17 GMT
field is the only undisputed starter, amos too but he's perenially injured. i still think there's a player in dozzel but i don't know what his best role is as he's a negative johanson - but with legs.
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Post by Shania on Aug 27, 2022 21:51:46 GMT
Don't want to make too much of it when we've just got an excellent three points but more mixed messages from Beale today - post match he said we were a good team which just needed more belief. Yet just a couple of days ago in West London Sport - which acts as a kind of in-house journal when QPR management are happy to leak something - an anonymous source apparently familiar with Beale's thinking said he had given up on our midfield and wanted replacements. You will most probably not get Warburton back, so why don`t you want Beale at least a bit credit for getting them to perform like they did today? He has been at the club for a very short period and maybe he is struggling to find his feet as a leader and 1st team coach at a new club.It`s his first job in that role actually... |
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 27, 2022 22:38:37 GMT
Big difference today was Stefan back to something like his best games. He was mobile and competitive, picked a few passes and got in Stroud’s face about a couple of bad decisions. Ok, he got himself booked for it but at least he was showing he cared when he’s recently been accused of not giving a toss.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 28, 2022 8:05:25 GMT
I think you have hit nail on head Alan when Stefan plays well the rest of the midfield appear to turn up too. He’s still big influence on this side but need find a way of getting that level from him on regular basis.
Dozzell is not shit but he is an odd player as has ability but I just can’t pick where he should play or what his position is. Getting bit fed up of his look one way pass another which don’t appear to come off often enough.
Amos return then Taylor makes us strong in middle.
Think Lairds arrival has helped midfield too as he’s like an extra player there as they look up and he’s beside them getting forward as seen by him setting up Willock for second. Proper wingbacks transform sides
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 28, 2022 8:31:40 GMT
Plenty been saying Johansen's legs have gone. Yesterday proved otherwise, right? Can he keep up that level of performance? Let's bloody hope so because that was the Stefan of old. Time to start trusting Beale's judgement a bit more?
Good post West.
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Post by MattyRangers on Aug 28, 2022 8:42:11 GMT
Great to see Stef put a performance in yesterday. Field is the glue that holds the middle together for me, really good player. As others have said, Dozzell is an odd 1, I think there's a player in there, he is comfortable taking the ball in tight areas and can pick a pass but he is very hot & cold.
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 28, 2022 8:50:18 GMT
Dozzell not for me. Too much ‘Tom Carroll’ - there but not doing much.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 28, 2022 8:55:29 GMT
I think he’s the long term replacement for Stefan so both in same side don’t work great
Get why he’s playing with the injuries so needs must
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 28, 2022 9:23:17 GMT
What was our old midfield song? Something like "Woah Woah. We've got the best midfield in the world. We've got Rowlands and Cookie, Akos Buzsaky and Danny Parejo"?...
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 28, 2022 9:31:03 GMT
I think he’s the long term replacement for Stefan so both in same side don’t work great Get why he’s playing with the injuries so needs must Yeah I get that at the moment but if he’s long term replacement for Johansen they need a rethink - nowhere near aggressive enough. |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 28, 2022 9:33:34 GMT
I think he’s the long term replacement for Stefan so both in same side don’t work great Get why he’s playing with the injuries so needs must Yeah I get that at the moment but if he’s long term replacement for Johansen they need a rethink - nowhere near aggressive enough. why a rethink? What about actually working with and developing him while the player he need emulate and learn from is in the house. Is that not supposed to be one of the skills/strengths of the new gaffer? |
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 28, 2022 9:37:25 GMT
Yeah I get that at the moment but if he’s long term replacement for Johansen they need a rethink - nowhere near aggressive enough. why a rethink? What about actually working with and developing him while the player he need emulate and learn from is in the house. Is that not supposed to be one of the skills/strengths of the new gaffer? Because he doesn’t appear to have that aggression in him to succeed in one of the most competitive roles on the field. That’s why I liken him to TC, he never got involved either. Can’t always rely on others to win the ball back, got to do your bit. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 28, 2022 9:39:50 GMT
We’re saying on here that Stef getting his game back made a difference so can’t say that it would be ok for Dozzell to stroll it if he gets that role.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 28, 2022 9:52:03 GMT
What was our old midfield song? Something like "Woah Woah. We've got the best midfield in the world. We've got Rowlands and Cookie, Akos Buzsaky and Danny Parejo"?... i still find it weird that parejo turned out to be an amazing player lol |
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Post by coneysboots on Aug 28, 2022 12:22:09 GMT
What was our old midfield song? Something like "Woah Woah. We've got the best midfield in the world. We've got Rowlands and Cookie, Akos Buzsaky and Danny Parejo"?... i still find it weird that parejo turned out to be an amazing player lol Do we have a buyback clause 😂😂 |
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 28, 2022 12:33:28 GMT
Plenty been saying Johansen's legs have gone. Yesterday proved otherwise, right? Unless he can do it on a much more regular basis the jury stays out. Starting on Tuesday evening. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 30, 2022 9:26:53 GMT
Plenty been saying Johansen's legs have gone. Yesterday proved otherwise, right? Unless he can do it on a much more regular basis the jury stays out. Starting on Tuesday evening. But the claim was his legs have gone which is clearly not the case, else he'd never have been able to put in that performance. Yes, he obvs needs to maintain it. |
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Post by James1979 on Oct 20, 2024 18:55:01 GMT
We have a lot of issues but I think this is the main one.
Field and Colback - West Brom, Luton (league), 2nd half Sheffield U, Sheffield Wednesday
Field and Varane - Blackburn (1 half), Sheffield I (1st half)
Varane and EDB - Cambridge and Palace (both Cup)
Colback and Varane - Luton (cup)
Field and Madasen - Plymouth, Millwall, Hull, Derby, Portsmouth
Field & Madsen - terrible and worst of the above partnerships by a distance
Field and Varane - terrible 1st half against Sheffield but top 2 side and Varane first game. Wouldn’t we now be happy repeating their 1st half vs Blackburn. Didn’t look like conceding…/stupid red thought
Varane and EDB - good vs Palace, poor vs Cambridge
Colback and Varane - not too bad
Field and Colback - overall not too bad
So conclusion, Madsen shouldn’t be anywhere near starting. Field gets too much leeway. We need to do all we can to avoid having that partnership again.
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Post by Shania on Oct 20, 2024 19:04:36 GMT
Field-Colback
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Varane-Field
---Madsen---
Madsen has to play the more attacking role If played at all.
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Post by James1979 on Oct 20, 2024 19:23:50 GMT
Think Colback and Varane may end up being the best 2.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 20, 2024 20:38:16 GMT
Field-Colback ---Madsen--- Varane-Field ---Madsen--- Madsen has to play the more attacking role If played at all. Agree with this. I'd give him a more regular go at pushing up behind the striker. He's not a CDM. |
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Post by surreychad on Oct 21, 2024 10:12:49 GMT
Field-Colback ---Madsen--- Varane-Field ---Madsen--- Madsen has to play the more attacking role If played at all. I havent seen anything that suggest Madsen could play an attacking role. Would rather see Dembele play in front of either of the above 2 partnerships and and on the shoulder of Frey. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 21, 2024 11:47:39 GMT
Madsen should be played left back. Left back in the dressing room.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Oct 21, 2024 11:58:03 GMT
We have a lot of issues but I think this is the main one. Field and Colback - West Brom, Luton (league), 2nd half Sheffield U, Sheffield Wednesday Field and Varane - Blackburn (1 half), Sheffield I (1st half) Varane and EDB - Cambridge and Palace (both Cup) Colback and Varane - Luton (cup) Field and Madasen - Plymouth, Millwall, Hull, Derby, Portsmouth Field & Madsen - terrible and worst of the above partnerships by a distance Field and Varane - terrible 1st half against Sheffield but top 2 side and Varane first game. Wouldn’t we now be happy repeating their 1st half vs Blackburn. Didn’t look like conceding…/stupid red thought Varane and EDB - good vs Palace, poor vs Cambridge Colback and Varane - not too bad Field and Colback - overall not too bad So conclusion, Madsen shouldn’t be anywhere near starting. Field gets too much leeway. We need to do all we can to avoid having that partnership again. Good post and this is certainly the nub of the problem. Seems a case of "which is the least bad option". Might be tempted to shoe-horn Field, Varane and Colback in there at least for a few games to stop the bleeding because its our weak as piss midfield that has put us quite deservedly bottom. Apparently we have made the fewest tackles and fewest interceptions in the entire division. Says everything you need to know about why we are where we are. Appreciate Marti has been dealt a terrible hand with the players available to select, but it worries me that he doesn't see that we can't carry players in midfield who don't tackle. How did Madsen stay on for 96 minutes? |
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Post by James1979 on Oct 21, 2024 16:43:29 GMT
Yeah that’s my issue about Marti seemingly not recognising that we have a midfield that can’t tackle. It’s shame we will miss Colback for a few more weeks. Stuck with Varane and Field. Lot of pressure on Varane now. Not ideal.
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 21, 2024 18:31:50 GMT
If you play a sensible set up for this lot, you got 5 in mf when the cosh starts coming down.
Get the ball move it quick and you got Voldermort plus 2 getting at em.
I really cant see a reason not to go 4-3 -3 / 4-5-1. Will it happen? Nope.
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