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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 25, 2023 21:31:33 GMT
But if we'd signed Hugill, everyone would have moaned we bought a 30 year old striker who hardly pulled up trees for us last time round and is that really the extent of the club's ambition...  No......... Hugill scored more goals in 1 season than that donkey in two seasons But less goals per game since leaving us than "donkey"... |
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Post by sparks on Jan 25, 2023 21:57:44 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Jan 26, 2023 7:49:53 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 26, 2023 8:19:44 GMT
I rate Nesbit especially at 2 million
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Post by hubble on Jan 26, 2023 9:18:51 GMT
God that's a depressing read!
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Post by West Acton on Jan 27, 2023 14:05:04 GMT
Bet every other message board in the champ is saying how shit their DOF and board are.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 27, 2023 14:08:17 GMT
Bet every other message board in the champ is saying how shit their DOF and board are. Absolutely. But according to some "its not rocket science, just chuck some fucking money at it" |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 27, 2023 15:22:30 GMT
Not as simple as that though, is it? Can make it say what you want. Only two clubs intent on getting up this season? Others happy with squads having done their work before the season? Better scouting and recruitment in clubs that haven’t seen need to spend? Might feel they have all the players they need in all positions? Fact remains that we NEED a striker. If we can’t find one that’s one thing but if we’re not looking properly that’s not just down to January.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 27, 2023 15:38:29 GMT
Not as simple as that though, is it? Can make it say what you want. Only two clubs intent on getting up this season? Others happy with squads having done their work before the season? Better scouting and recruitment in clubs that haven’t seen need to spend? Might feel they have all the players they need in all positions? Fact remains that we NEED a striker. If we can’t find one that’s one thing but if we’re not looking properly that’s not just down to January. Plus the two clubs in that graph were the two to out of three to have just been relegated and hence had the most amount in parachute payments to spend and yoyo back up. Coincidence? QPR were no different when we got relegated, just in our case we never spent it wisely, which is why we are where we are now. |
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Post by sparks on Jan 27, 2023 15:45:25 GMT
Without selling somebody for decent money our only option is taking a punt on a striker around 1m or 2m mark and to do that we need to lose a decent wage earner off the budget.
It’s probably not the transfer fee that’s preventing us getting another striker it’s the 650k a year wages.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 27, 2023 15:55:16 GMT
Not as simple as that though, is it? Can make it say what you want. Only two clubs intent on getting up this season? Others happy with squads having done their work before the season? Better scouting and recruitment in clubs that haven’t seen need to spend? Might feel they have all the players they need in all positions? Fact remains that we NEED a striker. If we can’t find one that’s one thing but if we’re not looking properly that’s not just down to January. Think the more obvious conclusion to draw from that graph, as Stanley recognises lower down, is that the only two clubs who have splurged any kind of money are those with parachute payments. Nobody else has a pot to piss in. Unless you are in the top three or four am sure you would like to go out and make signings. But the fundamental issue is that the economic model for the Championship is broken. One thing a lot of us quite liked about the Championship was that it was a much more level league than the Premiership. But the Championship is going the same way and it becomes exceptionally difficult for any club without parachute payments to compete (unless they are especially well run like Brentford and Brighton were in this division). Think Acton's point was that 20 odd clubs of the 24 are probably all in varying degrees of despair like us, blaming the owners/ DoFs etc when actually the problem likes much deeper. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 27, 2023 18:06:10 GMT
Leaving us where we are with a squad without a decent striker IS the owners’/DOF’s fault after so long. Like I said, not just about January.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 27, 2023 18:56:22 GMT
Perhaps if we stopped signing so many reserves who never amount to anything we could get a striker instead of 400 no hopers.
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Post by hubble on Jan 27, 2023 19:31:03 GMT
Perhaps if we stopped signing so many reserves who never amount to anything we could get a striker instead of 400 no hopers. true dat |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 27, 2023 19:45:28 GMT
Not as simple as that though, is it? Can make it say what you want. Only two clubs intent on getting up this season? Others happy with squads having done their work before the season? Better scouting and recruitment in clubs that haven’t seen need to spend? Might feel they have all the players they need in all positions? Fact remains that we NEED a striker. If we can’t find one that’s one thing but if we’re not looking properly that’s not just down to January. Think the more obvious conclusion to draw from that graph, as Stanley recognises lower down, is that the only two clubs who have splurged any kind of money are those with parachute payments. Nobody else has a pot to piss in. Unless you are in the top three or four am sure you would like to go out and make signings. But the fundamental issue is that the economic model for the Championship is broken. One thing a lot of us quite liked about the Championship was that it was a much more level league than the Premiership. But the Championship is going the same way and it becomes exceptionally difficult for any club without parachute payments to compete (unless they are especially well run like Brentford and Brighton were in this division). Think Acton's point was that 20 odd clubs of the 24 are probably all in varying degrees of despair like us, blaming the owners/ DoFs etc when actually the problem likes much deeper. Its been obvious for years, and said many times on here, that becoming a member of the chute regiment is the only game in town as far as money goes. To do that you have to get smart investment wise. We simply not done that. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 27, 2023 19:45:42 GMT
Perhaps if we stopped signing so many reserves who never amount to anything we could get a striker instead of 400 no hopers. exactly point I’m trying make on other thread. No harm taking chances in transfer market with kids like Kelman and masterson but as soon as it’s clear they are not going cut the mustard then get them moved on and create as space for others who might. |
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Post by Corbray on Jan 27, 2023 19:56:40 GMT
i don't mind us signing "no hopers" as inevitbly one will turn out good. we brought in eze when he was 16 for example and he bagged us 20m + some great moments.
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Post by Shania on Jan 27, 2023 21:03:17 GMT
Not a rumour as such, but Kevin Nesbit is turning Millwall down. Maybe a better player than Dykes?
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Post by coneysboots on Jan 27, 2023 22:25:01 GMT
Not a rumour as such, but Kevin Nesbit is turning Millwall down. Maybe a better player than Dykes? Rab C Nesbit is better than Dykes 😡😡 |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 30, 2023 10:41:20 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 30, 2023 10:43:31 GMT
If he’s all we’ve got how can we ship him out?
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Post by James1979 on Jan 30, 2023 10:59:10 GMT
If he’s all we’ve got how can we ship him out? Because if he’s stays much longer as a forward in front of our midfield, he’s going to get depressed. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 30, 2023 11:07:50 GMT
Nothing but 1 loan signing.
Nothing,no comms,no ambition,no plan just nothing.
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 30, 2023 11:12:16 GMT
Can't see us shipping Armstrong out on loan unless a striker is inbound.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 30, 2023 11:17:02 GMT
Would be madness. Better than nothing.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 30, 2023 11:36:30 GMT
For a club that thinks it develops young players I think we’ve handled Armstrong appallingly. If his fitness is a problem - at 19 and a man - there are ways it can be measured to see if he will ever be ‘fit’ enough. Rowers do it, tennis players, even fucking astronauts so it probably is rocket science😂but it can be done. If he isn’t going to make it physically or if he isn’t showing (at 19!) the ability what is he still doing here? If he’s still a prospect, all things considered, play him more often and he won’t need to go mental for 15 minutes trying to make an impression.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 30, 2023 13:52:24 GMT
Not going to slate the club for a lack of signings until the window closes, as a lot can change.
For Armstrong; at least it's a loan going to league 1 rather than league 2 or lower. We must put something in the contract whereby if he's fit, he plays. Otherwise the risk is that he warms their bench rather than ours and it doesn't benefit anyone.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 30, 2023 14:49:47 GMT
If we don’t sign anyone I think that’s pretty clear indication we’re broke
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 30, 2023 15:29:56 GMT
If we don’t sign anyone I think that’s pretty clear indication we’re broke Think we know we are already. Some fans (not you) think of transfer deadline day as a bit like Christmas Day - they MUST have a present to unwrap. We got Lowe - unless by some miracle we manage to off-load a lot of dead wood without paying off the contracts can't see us getting anyone else. Obvs wd be happy to be proved wrong. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2023 15:39:08 GMT
All wood is dead , otherwise it be a tree
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