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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2023 21:04:49 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 31, 2023 7:43:55 GMT
Ok, I’ve bucked the trend and voted stay. I agree with all that is said about them but at least we have a club and a ground. I could see bigger problems, catastrophic things happening, if they sell up. They need to recruit better management for the club and maybe that would convince them to invest in it in future.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 31, 2023 8:06:16 GMT
Ok, I’ve bucked the trend and voted stay. I agree with all that is said about them but at least we have a club and a ground. I could see bigger problems, catastrophic things happening, if they sell up. They need to recruit better management for the club and maybe that would convince them to invest in it in future. agree and I’ve voted stay too. They 100% have too up there game and the fans need to get message across its simply not good enough and they got sort themselves out. Would add one of them now needs to be a visible focal figure as we only really ever hear from Hoos or Les but they are employees so owners have to step up and be visible and involved. It won’t be popular but plenty of clubs with worse owners. Birmingham fans nor the EFL even know who owns them. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 31, 2023 8:36:27 GMT
I could see bigger problems, catastrophic things happening, if they sell up. I fully agree. Hence why it would of course completely depend on who any new buyer is and their 'fit and proper' credentials. one of them now needs to be a visible focal figure as we only really ever hear from Hoos or Les but they are employees so owners have to step up and be visible and involved. I made the exact same point to the club at the last fan site meeting in December. Most there agreed too. Paul Morrissey chaired the meeting and took the point on board. Seen no sign of a change yet though. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 31, 2023 9:06:32 GMT
Sell up! The bottom line is how are they going to improve things when they have run us into the ground these past 12 years. If they stay how long will you be prepared to put up with how things are now? If up for sale lets see if anyone comes in to buy us or are we going to be led by Hoos and co that no one is interested in us and be grateful that we have this lot? Very much like the million a month they are alledgedly putting each and every month for the past how ever long it has been.
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Post by MattyRangers on Jan 31, 2023 12:04:23 GMT
Ok, I’ve bucked the trend and voted stay. I agree with all that is said about them but at least we have a club and a ground. I could see bigger problems, catastrophic things happening, if they sell up. They need to recruit better management for the club and maybe that would convince them to invest in it in future. Ditto that. |
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Post by 72bus on Jan 31, 2023 13:00:13 GMT
It would depend on who the new buyers would be
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 31, 2023 13:54:16 GMT
Exactly 72, and I said the same above. Otherwise it's too hypothetical a question.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 31, 2023 15:00:43 GMT
No as people are pissed off with them, it’s a straight go or stay without consequences.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 31, 2023 15:02:20 GMT
Yebbut, if they were to sell, there’d be no choice who might come in.
Better the Devil you know and all that…
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 31, 2023 15:20:58 GMT
Better the Devil you know and all that… On that basis no one would ever take a chance. On anything. Even if it went tits up and we had to start again down the scrubs, I sometimes think that journey would be more interesting than the endless mediocrity and blown opportunities,,,, |
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Post by Bill on Jan 31, 2023 16:06:28 GMT
Go
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Post by James1979 on Jan 31, 2023 16:15:13 GMT
No “Don’t care as won’t make a bloody difference” option?
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jan 31, 2023 18:27:56 GMT
Get someone in who knows about football and will investment wisely in the football side rather than plan to build a stadium we can't fill
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Post by The General on Jan 31, 2023 18:58:51 GMT
Liquidate the club
I can then support a good club 🤣
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 31, 2023 19:37:05 GMT
Get someone in who knows about football and will investment wisely in the football side rather than plan to build a stadium we can't fill Who is that person? Kindly show us their money. If they exist I'm sure fans will welcome them. In the real world, we have our current board. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 31, 2023 19:39:30 GMT
I don't think anyone any better would take us on. What is needed is a restructure from the top down. The combination of Hoos, Les and Ramsey doesn't work. It's also serious overkill for a club of our size. We need to bring in a team with some more modern ways of doing things who do not require the hefty salaries that these 3 currently command.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 31, 2023 19:50:24 GMT
Be interesting to have run this poll in mid October when we were joint top on points…
Same ownership, same players, same methods…
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Post by Shania on Jan 31, 2023 19:51:57 GMT
I had high hope of something happening when the american stake holder came here a year ago, but nothing noteworthy seems to have materialised so far...
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Post by Shania on Jan 31, 2023 19:55:30 GMT
Be interesting to have run this poll in mid October when we were joint top on points… Same ownership, same players, same methods… I would have liked to have a look a that "brocure" Beale was given. |
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Post by The General on Jan 31, 2023 19:57:48 GMT
Be interesting to have run this poll in mid October when we were joint top on points… Same ownership, same players, same methods… Loftus you constantly post defending the owners Which is fine However its shit atm and the club is spiralling Are you not concerned with what is happening We used to be a great club We are currently a shit club Why are you not concerned about this The club is falling apart |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 31, 2023 20:07:59 GMT
Be interesting to have run this poll in mid October when we were joint top on points… Same ownership, same players, same methods… Loftus you constantly post defending the owners Which is fine However its shit atm and the club is spiralling Are you not concerned with what is happening We used to be a great club We are currently a shit club Why are you not concerned about this The club is falling apart Correct |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 31, 2023 20:12:12 GMT
Be interesting to have run this poll in mid October when we were joint top on points… Same ownership, same players, same methods… Still needed a goalscorer at that time which all the fanbase acknowledged. I would hazard a guess that old fat face created a decent dressing room with the players he brought in. We have been struggling for years under this board and can anyone honestly see where they have learnt any lessons from day one? |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jan 31, 2023 20:15:21 GMT
Get someone in who knows about football and will investment wisely in the football side rather than plan to build a stadium we can't fill Who is that person? Kindly show us their money. If they exist I'm sure fans will welcome them. In the real world, we have our current board. Someone somewhere will appear....we are bound to get lucky someday surely |
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 31, 2023 20:16:27 GMT
General
Briefly…
Kept us afloat for years.
Paid for their own cock-ups.
Lower leagues are littered with clubs whose owners just walked away.
Sure, plenty of more clued up owners, but a whole lot of worse, much, much worse owners.
Prefer them to Paladini, who though highly comical, was a nob.
MUCH prefer them to Tango and Cash, who were fucking shysters.
Our lot are doing OKish to my mind. Top of the league 14 weeks ago, now mid table.
Couldn’t have predicted Beale’s bail-out and the chaos that has caused.
And it’s more than results on the pitch for me. It’s about doing things the right way. Look at the work the QPR Community Trust does, Andy Evans does a brilliant job.
Hopefully the new training facility will start to attract better players and reap results 2 or 3 years down the line.
I’m happier here today in the world’s most competitive league with these owners than I would be be in the Prem owned by Mike Ashley and managed by Joey Barton.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 31, 2023 20:24:29 GMT
Bernie and Flavio for all their faults are there was many did actually save us as in 2007 we were in the shit big time. Shysters not sure about that more knew why they bought us and when they would sell. Remember the ABC loan Loftus? 10 million a year or something crazy like that. They got rid of that and in our promotion year Bernie bankrolled the club to the tune of around 12 million that season. They were odd but what they did give this bunch was a shot at the PL which TF fucked up twice
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