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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 24, 2023 12:00:15 GMT
‘Had a group of generals’ - be lucky to find one here Gareth. Yeah this is clearly key to his management style. But as you say who have we got? Stef - should be that guy with his CV but is a v shy Scandi type Dunne - gives it large but is he really a leader? Too many mistakes in him Field - great battler but has a v quiet personality. Likeable but maybe you need some players who are not likeable, Mad Mark Dennis types Dickie - looks lost Probably the nearest we have are Chair and Albert All the sick notes disqualify themselves. We haven't really had a general like that since Barbet was playing with a dislocated shoulder. Can he turn any of our players into generals? Or do they all lack the basic personality? |
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Post by sparks on Feb 24, 2023 12:20:03 GMT
Would disagree on dismissing the notion of Dunne as a leader just because he makes mistakes, at least he won’t shy away from responsibility unlike many others in this team.
I saw him repeatedly giving out advice to Kakay at Boro, saw him take the bull by the horns against Sunderland by driving forward with the ball whilst others hide and play safe sideways passes.
It’s often said that some think the role of captain is virtually worthless nowadays but would only agree because of making the likes of Field and Chair is a mockery to being an actual leader.
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Post by hal9thou on Feb 24, 2023 12:31:45 GMT
His decline this season has been shocking. Here's hoping, for us and for him, he can step up. None of our centre backs can play in a back four all better with 3 at the back. Only problem with that argument is the quality of the wing backs / full backs. Ideally I prefer a four, I want proper FBs out there shutting down the L&R channels. Plus a proper winger higher up who can switch (that way you only need one of them). Plus Balogun looked pretty decent in a back four. |
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Post by Corbray on Feb 24, 2023 12:37:31 GMT
dunne i feel makes mistakes because of the style of play he's being asked to do but i don't think anyone can doubt that he's a championship quality defender.
on his day he's very good, that kind of skill doesn't just dissapear and is likely a coaching and belief issue that has spread across the entire team. yes, he should be switched on during games more than he is but he's a player i can see excelling under ainsworth
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Post by spongeparr on Feb 24, 2023 12:41:28 GMT
dunne i feel makes mistakes because of the style of play he's being asked to do but i don't think anyone can doubt that he's a championship quality defender. on his day he's very good, that kind of skill doesn't just dissapear and is likely a coaching and belief issue that has spread across the entire team. yes, he should be switched on during games more than he is but he's a player i can see excelling under ainsworth Debatable to be honest. Positionally, he is pretty suspect. |
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Post by Shania on Feb 24, 2023 13:36:20 GMT
Time for Stefan to show us how important he was when he captained Norway.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 24, 2023 14:05:34 GMT
Time for Stefan to show how important he was when he captained Norway. Another one who looks like an ongoing sicknote now Shania. Important type of player so we need to replace him - and it’s not Dozzell. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 24, 2023 14:18:19 GMT
Would disagree on dismissing the notion of Dunne as a leader just because he makes mistakes, at least he won’t shy away from responsibility unlike many others in this team. I saw him repeatedly giving out advice to Kakay at Boro, saw him take the bull by the horns against Sunderland by driving forward with the ball whilst others hide and play safe sideways passes. It’s often said that some think the role of captain is virtually worthless nowadays but would only agree because of making the likes of Field and Chair is a mockery to being an actual leader. You might be right on Dunne, I just think he is one of those players who is over-rated by the fans because he pumps his fists a bit. The amount of individual errors he makes that lead to goals is phenomenal. No idea how Critch still to the last thought Dunne could operate in a two. But do take your point that at least he shows some fight. Re Chair, the game he was captain he ran around like he was on coke, like a man possessed. Don't always think you need a clogger as captain. Look at Warnock making Adel captain, inspired decision IMHO. |
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Post by sparks on Feb 24, 2023 18:07:05 GMT
Would disagree on dismissing the notion of Dunne as a leader just because he makes mistakes, at least he won’t shy away from responsibility unlike many others in this team. I saw him repeatedly giving out advice to Kakay at Boro, saw him take the bull by the horns against Sunderland by driving forward with the ball whilst others hide and play safe sideways passes. It’s often said that some think the role of captain is virtually worthless nowadays but would only agree because of making the likes of Field and Chair is a mockery to being an actual leader. You might be right on Dunne, I just think he is one of those players who is over-rated by the fans because he pumps his fists a bit. The amount of individual errors he makes that lead to goals is phenomenal. No idea how Critch still to the last thought Dunne could operate in a two. But do take your point that at least he shows some fight. Re Chair, the game he was captain he ran around like he was on coke, like a man possessed. Don't always think you need a clogger as captain. Look at Warnock making Adel captain, inspired decision IMHO. Get the impression it’s in vogue now to crucify our players for making an individual mistake which leads to a goal with Senny ,Iroegbunam ,Dickie, Kakay Dickie and Dunne coming in for most. The only constant is that these players are always fit and available to be selected thus making them much more susceptible to a mistake.rather than the sick notes that are always missing from teamsheets.Not too difficult to single out our CBs for the most mistakes as it’s well known fact possession stats show them to be involved more than anyone else in the team. With a more mobile footballing CB beside him Jimmy Dunne would still be my number 1 choice and it was no suprise Beale thought the same. |
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Post by Shania on Feb 24, 2023 18:32:55 GMT
Time for Stefan to show how important he was when he captained Norway. Another one who looks like an ongoing sicknote now Shania. Important type of player so we need to replace him - and it’s not Dozzell. To be fair, a player like him should have been brought in during this window. Imo. |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 25, 2023 8:03:23 GMT
Would disagree on dismissing the notion of Dunne as a leader just because he makes mistakes, at least he won’t shy away from responsibility unlike many others in this team. I saw him repeatedly giving out advice to Kakay at Boro, saw him take the bull by the horns against Sunderland by driving forward with the ball whilst others hide and play safe sideways passes. It’s often said that some think the role of captain is virtually worthless nowadays but would only agree because of making the likes of Field and Chair is a mockery to being an actual leader. You might be right on Dunne, I just think he is one of those players who is over-rated by the fans because he pumps his fists a bit. The amount of individual errors he makes that lead to goals is phenomenal. No idea how Critch still to the last thought Dunne could operate in a two. But do take your point that at least he shows some fight. Re Chair, the game he was captain he ran around like he was on coke, like a man possessed. Don't always think you need a clogger as captain. Look at Warnock making Adel captain, inspired decision IMHO. agree I like him and he’s reasonable player but he’s an actor not a leader from what I’ve seen. Easy to beat chest and look like the man but need back it up performances as well. Decent player even if he is well overrated by the fans but just needs to focus on what he’s good at and not being a player he is not. |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 25, 2023 8:04:21 GMT
Progress for me today would be being on the front foot, hard to beat and a clean sheet.
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Post by spongeparr on Feb 25, 2023 8:12:43 GMT
I'm gutted I'm missing this one. Was taking my daughter but she's been sick (prob done it deliberately to avoid going, clever girl)
Chairs interview gave me confidence. Been training on high pressing and that suits us.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 25, 2023 9:21:55 GMT
I'm gutted I'm missing this one. Was taking my daughter but she's been sick (prob done it deliberately to avoid going, clever girl) Chairs interview gave me confidence. Been training on high pressing and that suits us. Hope she feels better soon mate |
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Post by spongeparr on Feb 25, 2023 10:24:02 GMT
I'm gutted I'm missing this one. Was taking my daughter but she's been sick (prob done it deliberately to avoid going, clever girl) Chairs interview gave me confidence. Been training on high pressing and that suits us. Hope she feels better soon mate Thanks mate. She's all good, standard kid tummy bug |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 25, 2023 10:56:04 GMT
Chairs interview gave me confidence. Been training on high pressing and that suits us. Agree. Just wish club wouldn't give away tactics. Opposition always watch these interviews to try to gain any advantage. |
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Post by sparks on Feb 25, 2023 11:11:01 GMT
You might be right on Dunne, I just think he is one of those players who is over-rated by the fans because he pumps his fists a bit. The amount of individual errors he makes that lead to goals is phenomenal. No idea how Critch still to the last thought Dunne could operate in a two. But do take your point that at least he shows some fight. Re Chair, the game he was captain he ran around like he was on coke, like a man possessed. Don't always think you need a clogger as captain. Look at Warnock making Adel captain, inspired decision IMHO. agree I like him and he’s reasonable player but he’s an actor not a leader from what I’ve seen. Easy to beat chest and look like the man but need back it up performances as well. Decent player even if he is well overrated by the fans but just needs to focus on what he’s good at and not being a player he is not. Don’t understand your description of him being an actor and him trying to be a player he’s not, what is he trying to be that you don’t like? I don’t think he can be looked at as being anything other than a honest but quite limited CB who always gives 100% effort and won’t hide on the pitch. He’s no shrinking violet trying to get fans onside but I don’t see any negatives with any of that. |
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Post by Shania on Feb 25, 2023 12:41:20 GMT
Wish we could have brought back our CB who were out on loan. Name escapes me, but he did at least have pace.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 25, 2023 12:43:40 GMT
Matterson?
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Post by West Acton on Feb 25, 2023 14:15:03 GMT
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 25, 2023 14:30:59 GMT
Where are Beale's crocked centre halves? Really worry those two alone as a centre back pairing.
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Post by hubble on Feb 25, 2023 14:32:42 GMT
No Dozzell is a positive.
This must be the first time we've gone with 2 up front for years.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 25, 2023 14:35:23 GMT
Where are Beale's crocked centre halves? Really worry those two alone as a centre back pairing. You answered your own question with crocked |
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Post by awin on Feb 25, 2023 14:36:29 GMT
No Dozzell is a positive. This must be the first time we've gone with 2 up front for years. 2 up? Looks like 433 to me. |
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 25, 2023 14:59:14 GMT
No Dozzell is a positive. This must be the first time we've gone with 2 up front for years. 2 up? Looks like 433 to me. Yeah, that looks like a 4-3-3 to me too mate. |
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Post by acricketer on Feb 25, 2023 15:02:30 GMT
So no goals for us in the first half.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 25, 2023 15:05:43 GMT
4 mins gone and we not winning ffs, GA got the worst record since NC
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 25, 2023 15:16:02 GMT
Fuck
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Post by acricketer on Feb 25, 2023 15:16:10 GMT
Critchley in!
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Post by Greg1882 on Feb 25, 2023 15:18:21 GMT
Acres of space on kakays side( shock horror) unlucky deflection but dunn caught under the ball again (shock horror) we simply can’t defend
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