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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2023 6:40:12 GMT
To make clear this is NOT an Ainsworth out thread but more so we can put forward names of potential up and coming coaches and managers club should be keeping eye on.
Shania has often put forwards names because she is attached to another market we don’t hear much about which is informative.
If we’re run properly, even if we’re performing well, club probably should always keep a list of 2 or 3 potential replacements so they’re ahead of the game. They seem to have had plan in getting beale but felt like Critchley and Ainsworth were panic appointments.
So any names of managers or coaches we should be monitoring who have impressed you so far and could make step up.
Personally like look of Gary ONeill plus Barry Robson at Aberdeen has absolutely transformed the results and style and when he speaks has bit of Amex Ferguson about him. Two I would keep tabs on.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 10, 2023 6:55:08 GMT
Anyone but ,and no he not a gay African
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 10, 2023 7:17:18 GMT
Ian Evatt
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2023 7:20:37 GMT
Evatt good shout keep hearing positive stuff about him on Sky snd ITV reviews.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 10, 2023 7:48:57 GMT
christian ilzer was someone i mentioned after the eel ldft. he's manager of sturm graz in austria but has turned them into a top austrian team on a shoestring budget all while developing+selling players and plays good football.
we could have probably brought him in after the eel went but no chance now as i feel like his stock is too high for us.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 10, 2023 7:58:14 GMT
Can see it now, club ringing bright talent managers agents from here to all over Europe. Hi we are Qpr and play next season in div1. Click, hello hello u still there?
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2023 8:05:21 GMT
Like someone suggested about getting the deputies from like Brighton and Brentford for DOF and analysts given how well Brentford have done promoting within surely should have eye on their back room staff.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 10, 2023 8:20:06 GMT
Evatt good shout keep hearing positive stuff about him on Sky snd ITV reviews. Trouble is Bolton owners know he’s good and have given him shares. Clever. |
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Post by James1979 on Apr 10, 2023 9:06:10 GMT
Like someone suggested about getting the deputies from like Brighton and Brentford for DOF and analysts given how well Brentford have done promoting within surely should have eye on their back room staff. Give Brentford and Brighton a few quid to see their manager list they looked at. |
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Post by The General on Apr 10, 2023 9:10:42 GMT
Neil Warnock
Mark Warbourton
Start Again
Kick Les out
Clint Defensive Coach
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Post by The General on Apr 10, 2023 9:14:42 GMT
Neil Warnock Mark Warbourton Start Again Kick Les out Clint Defensive Coach Are we twins do you think somehow 🤣 |
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 10, 2023 10:28:27 GMT
christian ilzer was someone i mentioned after the eel ldft. he's manager of sturm graz in austria but has turned them into a top austrian team on a shoestring budget all while developing+selling players and plays good football. we could have probably brought him in after the eel went but no chance now as i feel like his stock is too high for us. Problem is, mate, Whoever we get wont be able to develop players on their own. They need to bring in an awful lot of backroom staff and acadamy coaches who are skilled. There will be no room for these QUALIFIED staff as long as Ramsey, hall and friends are still stealing a living here. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 10, 2023 10:40:42 GMT
christian ilzer was someone i mentioned after the eel ldft. he's manager of sturm graz in austria but has turned them into a top austrian team on a shoestring budget all while developing+selling players and plays good football. we could have probably brought him in after the eel went but no chance now as i feel like his stock is too high for us. Problem is, mate, Whoever we get wont be able to develop players on their own. They need to bring in an awful lot of backroom staff and acadamy coaches who are skilled. There will be no room for these QUALIFIED staff as long as Ramsey, hall and friends are still stealing a living here. Agree. Change managers and nothing changes. Has to be something else. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 10, 2023 10:50:02 GMT
Right now, just until the end of the season, i would look to bring in terry O'Conner into the coaching team. having been dumped along with Mick Mack at blackpool this past week.
Terry has tons of experience and knows about relegation battles and hardening up players for the run ins.
Maybe too little too late but its better to try something than do nothing.
bring Terry in to work alongside the drag queen until the end of season and bin hall.
Then, whatever happens at the end of the season, dismantle the whole rotten structure at the club and start recruiting proper people based on ability and availability for the required roles within all areas of the club.
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Post by Shania on Apr 10, 2023 11:05:29 GMT
Can see it now, club ringing bright talent managers agents from here to all over Europe. Hi we are Qpr and play next season in div1. Click, hello hello u still there? This was funny  and exactly what I needed now. Priceless... |
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Post by Shania on Apr 10, 2023 11:28:46 GMT
Hans Erik Ødegård from Norway is an interesting manager. Done well on a shoe string budget at Sandefjord Fotball in Norway. Ps. He is Martin`s father.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 10, 2023 11:31:28 GMT
No good this thread as if anyone new comes in they will either be shit from some shit tiny crap side as cheap or have some loose link to club, ie clean the windows so knows the club bollox
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Post by hubble on Apr 17, 2023 7:19:40 GMT
Whether we stay up or go down, Ainsworth has to go. Liam Richardson would be a good choice to replace him, I think.
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 17, 2023 7:28:29 GMT
Whatever happened to Liam manning?
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Post by hubble on Apr 17, 2023 7:40:02 GMT
Yeah, Liam Manning would be good too. Anyone called Liam, in fact.
Manning was appointed OU manager 4 weeks ago, by the way. We could have had him instead of Ainsworth...
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Post by spongeparr on Apr 17, 2023 8:39:33 GMT
Neil Warnock Mark Warbourton Start Again Kick Les out Clint Defensive Coach why clint as a defensive coach? other than a QPR legend and a defender, why him? Nothing as far as I know to show that he would be any good at it. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Apr 17, 2023 8:47:48 GMT
Liam Manning? The same Liam Manning who’s had the sum total of 14 months experience managing in the EFL.
He was sacked from MK dons after they were second from bottom of league one, only on goal difference. Since taking over at Oxford they’ve played 5 or 6 games and haven’t won yet. So from the last 26 matches he’s managed in league one he’s picked up 18 points.
If he’s the answer then we really are fucked as a club.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 17, 2023 8:50:32 GMT
I still say we need cant chops jones in
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Post by shepherdsmush on Apr 17, 2023 9:07:22 GMT
If we had to change managers at any point in the future, I'd go for Kieron McKenna
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Post by sparks on Apr 17, 2023 9:38:01 GMT
Manning looks like he’s stopped the slide at Oxford, 5 games played 4 draws and 1 loss.It’s not unusual for inexperienced managers to make mistakes early in their career.
He did very well at MK Dons in his first season got them to playoffs with many players picked up on free transfers and loans, eventually made them around £7m in transfer sales last season.
I would much rather have taken him than Ainsworth as at least his teams play football the right way rather than the war games we see now.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Apr 17, 2023 10:23:53 GMT
Manning looks like he’s stopped the slide at Oxford, 5 games played 4 draws and 1 loss.It’s not unusual for inexperienced managers to make mistakes early in their career. He did very well at MK Dons in his first season got them to playoffs with many players picked up on free transfers and loans, eventually made them around £7m in transfer sales last season. I would much rather have taken him than Ainsworth as at least his teams play football the right way rather than the war games we see now. Given we don’t have a meaningful midfield can Ainsworth really be blamed. Let’s face it, Willock pretty much carried this team and he’s far from the player he was. Stephan is fucked as well. The rest of them are bang average championship players at best, some not even that level. To make matters worse they are underperforming even when being judged that level. The rot started well before Ainsworth so getting rid now seems a bit premature. We’re likely to go down so the main focus should be getting back up at the earliest possible opportunity, any which way. Developing players to sell or indeed bringing players through the ranks can wait for another day. Even Warnock didn’t develop players when here, he picked up players that a lot of us thought were has beens but brought the best out of them. With a massive slice of good fortune in Adel who could have been a disaster if it hadn’t worked out. What we need is a manager to galvanise a group of players and develop a far stronger mentality on the pitch than we’ve had for some time. Ainsworth might or might not be that manager but surely he has to be given a bit of time with some new faces. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 17, 2023 10:30:21 GMT
Club needs a proper manager not a team coach. Coaches work under a manager not a committee. Once we’ve got sorted and a winning mentality back in the club then we can start looking at ‘projects’.
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Post by sparks on Apr 17, 2023 11:09:39 GMT
Under Warburton, Beale, Critchley we passed the ball. Before Ainsworth had been appointed some misguided souls were saying he would be capable of adapting with better players..That clearly hasn’t been the case.
None of our current team are suited to Ainsworth play style bar Dykes and it’s being highlighted in results.It’s a huge mistake to even consider keeping Ainsworth beyond the end of the season but you are of course entitled to have a different oppion Itsonlyagame.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 17, 2023 11:24:07 GMT
I’d rather have sleepy joe in charge, and he senile
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Post by itsonlyagame on Apr 17, 2023 11:30:22 GMT
Under Warburton, Beale, Critchley we passed the ball. Before Ainsworth had been appointed some misguided souls were saying he would be capable of adapting with better players..That clearly hasn’t been the case. None of our current team are suited to Ainsworth play style bar Dykes and it’s being highlighted in results.It’s a huge mistake to even consider keeping Ainsworth beyond the end of the season but you are of course entitled to have a different oppion Itsonlyagame. Fair enough Sparks it’s all about opinions as you say. In terms of that passing style referred to, it may have worked for a while but not for quite some time, well before Ainsworth. Which sort of proves the point that the better players within our team that facilitated that approach either suffered injuries or loss of form. It’s also worth making the point that passing alone clearly didn’t win games. Like I said, our midfield is shite, pure and simple, mainly because Willock is not fully fit and Stef is a passenger. So there is a valid argument for long ball, if the players do it properly. Problem is the players haven’t done much properly for quite some time, regardless of the system. |
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and exactly what I needed now. Priceless...
