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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 10, 2023 16:33:49 GMT
Was mostly on the bench today. I'd shit em. Think Taylor Never Plays start next game. Instead of Luke 'The Enforcer' Amos. And Dunne at right back. Send Laird packing.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 10, 2023 16:36:20 GMT
He went old fashioned 4-4-2 today too.
Maybe stick with that?
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Post by James1979 on Apr 10, 2023 16:39:07 GMT
Still think Tim should come back into the side when fit.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 10, 2023 16:41:22 GMT
He went old fashioned 4-4-2 today too. Maybe stick with that? Looked like 3 at the back to me? |
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2023 16:43:34 GMT
He went old fashioned 4-4-2 today too. Maybe stick with that? Looked like 3 at the back to me? And me. |
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Post by awin on Apr 10, 2023 16:45:25 GMT
Looked like 3 at the back to me? And me. I saw it as 442 personally, with Dunne at RB. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 10, 2023 16:45:30 GMT
Started 352 then went 442 with Dunne moved right when two down. Dunne didn't go forward however. Uncle then the pocket dynamo Lowe banked in front of him.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 10, 2023 16:48:38 GMT
We supposed to be all ecstatic and grateful cos the useless cants got a point this century.
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2023 16:52:22 GMT
Sinton said at start of game it was 442, Paal/Adomah were getting forward and Dunne didn’t. How was it 442?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 10, 2023 16:53:38 GMT
Sinton swears he is 5ft 9
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Post by awin on Apr 10, 2023 17:41:22 GMT
Sinton said at start of game it was 442, Paal/Adomah were getting forward and Dunne didn’t. How was it 442? Because when they attacked down our right it was Dunne tracking the winger. ,Adomah didn’t seem to have the same responsibility. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 10, 2023 17:55:57 GMT
Good to see Stefan J not playing today. He is hopefully not needed anymore.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 10, 2023 18:07:06 GMT
We supposed to be all ecstatic and grateful cos the useless cants got a point this century. Definitely not but there were enough little improvements to suggest we might still be in Champ next season - then make some big changes |
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2023 18:15:06 GMT
Sinton said at start of game it was 442, Paal/Adomah were getting forward and Dunne didn’t. How was it 442? Because when they attacked down our right it was Dunne tracking the winger. ,Adomah didn’t seem to have the same responsibility. All the more reason to think it was 3 at the back if Adomah had no definitive defensive responsibility Awin This BBC link has us down as 3142 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65159329 |
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 10, 2023 18:23:04 GMT
Fair play to Dykes and Martin thought they made the defenders defend and battled away with them. Willock and Laird are clearly after thoughts for Ainsworth.
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 10, 2023 18:40:18 GMT
They started 351 and went 442. When Lowe replaced Uncke he didn't go right back. Dunne went right back when they switched.
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2023 19:37:06 GMT
Even though you’re suggesting we played 351 only means 9 players and a keeper on the pitch I surrender as it’s immaterial who right and who’s wrong.
Would be delighted for someone to explain the actual difference between playing a 5 or a 4 or better still a 3 player defence when attacking
Maybe I’ve got it wrong all these years that a 3 means that 3 defenders are generally kept at the back.
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Post by awin on Apr 10, 2023 19:37:47 GMT
Because when they attacked down our right it was Dunne tracking the winger. ,Adomah didn’t seem to have the same responsibility. All the more reason to think it was 3 at the back if Adomah had no definitive defensive responsibility Awin This BBC link has us down as 3142 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65159329Maybe it’s me but it looked to me like Paal Dickie Balogun Dunne in a flat back 4. Adomah and chair were our wide midfielders. Equally knowing our lot they were all probably out of position and I saw it wrong 😂 |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2023 19:51:44 GMT
Was defo 3 at the back no idea why sinton thought otherwise
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 10, 2023 20:02:56 GMT
Balogun done well today.
Very calm and collected player & only benefits us when fit.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 10, 2023 20:03:09 GMT
Sparks, not sure what I'm missing? I saw it as a 442 (as below). As did Sinton who was at the ground and more likely to be right compared to the BBC I'd have thought. Think Awin and 77 are saying same:
Dieng Dunne Dickie Balogun Paal Adomah Amos Field Chair Martin Dykes
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2023 20:06:00 GMT
Dunne just kept getting forward from what I was seeing and supporting Albert.
Whatever it was it worked.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 10, 2023 20:09:33 GMT
Dunne just kept getting forward from what I was seeing and supporting Albert. As did Paal on the other side with Chair. Whatever it was it worked. Agreed! |
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2023 20:24:29 GMT
Sparks, not sure what I'm missing? I saw it as a 442 (as below). As did Sinton who was at the ground and more likely to be right compared to the BBC I'd have thought. Think Awin and 77 are saying same:
Dieng Dunne Dickie Balogun Paal Adomah Amos Field Chair Martin Dykes
If a team is set up to play a 4 from my understanding both full backs are allowed to push forward (when opportunity arises) which often leaves 2 CBs at the back. From my view on the offy stream Dunne did not push forward except to take throw ins (which is certainly unusual) and up for set pieces. As I’ve already said Sinton said at kick off time we were playing a 4 with Dunne at RB, I failed to see that during the game but just like London( who makes numerous incorrect calls on players) I suspected Sinton got it wrong. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 10, 2023 20:36:51 GMT
But 3-1-4-2 (which seems to be what you're suggesting) looks less likely because Chair was playing wide with Paal behind him. I saw he sometimes crossed sides too.
Dunne (at RB) not having license to go forward could have just been his instruction.
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2023 21:00:28 GMT
But 3-1-4-2 (which seems to be what you're suggesting) looks less likely because Chair was playing wide with Paal behind him. I saw he sometimes crossed sides too. Dunne (at RB) not having license to go forward could have just been his instruction. That’s the exact formation BBC link printed out. I suspect that a lot of confusion is because Dunne played on the right of the 3, probably because Dickie has regularly been targeted and been torn a new one. Would not the facts suggest if Dunne indeed didn’t get forward that a back 3 formation was played when attacking? |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 10, 2023 21:25:04 GMT
But 3-1-4-2 (which seems to be what you're suggesting) looks less likely because Chair was playing wide with Paal behind him. I saw he sometimes crossed sides too. Dunne (at RB) not having license to go forward could have just been his instruction. That’s the exact formation BBC link printed out. I suspect that a lot of confusion is because Dunne played on the right of the 3, probably because Dickie has regularly been targeted and been torn a new one. Would not the facts suggest if Dunne indeed didn’t get forward that a back 3 formation was played when attacking? Westy said earlier that Dunne was getting forward and supporting Albert. Just seems everyone saw it a bit differently. Anyway I guess the main thing is it worked. |
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2023 21:35:47 GMT
First he said it was a 3 and couldn’t understand why Sinton said it was a 4, then he said he did get forward.
I can only remember once in the first half where he attempted a cross that came to nothing.
Not trying to put a downer on the performance but our statuesque defending for the second was horrendous and suspect a more motivated opponent would have blown us away on another day.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 10, 2023 22:12:24 GMT
Dunne just kept getting forward from what I was seeing and supporting Albert. Whatever it was it worked. If Paal was doing that on the other side, that sounds like 4-4-2. The idea being to get Chair and Albert freedom to go forward on the flanks. So Dykes and Martin had a feed. I think it kind of worked in the end. Much better than long ball to a solitary 9. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 10, 2023 22:12:34 GMT
Sparks, not sure what I'm missing? I saw it as a 442 (as below). As did Sinton who was at the ground and more likely to be right compared to the BBC I'd have thought. Think Awin and 77 are saying same:
Dieng Dunne Dickie Balogun Paal Adomah Amos Field Chair Martin Dykes
It was this. Nothing else. With Dunne told not to go forward. Given he's left footed, that was wise. Clearly, having fucked ourselves going two down, we needed more bodies in the middle, hence the change. Better have Dunne right back than that wastrel coward, cavalry member Laird. |
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