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Post by 1973ranger on Jun 30, 2023 10:22:37 GMT
Had a chat with a Chelsea supporter the other and got into a chat about truly big European Football clubs and I got down to the following.
Real
Barcelona
Ajax
Bayern
Man Utd
Liverpool
Juventus
Inter
AC Milan
Celtic
Rangers
All of the above was based on history and fanbase and not on wealth or as a team now.
Does anyone have abyone else?
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Post by coneysboots on Jun 30, 2023 10:31:24 GMT
Benfica
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Post by Corbray on Jun 30, 2023 10:31:48 GMT
i'd take out rangers, celtic and ajax tbh. massive in their countries but not really anywhere else just like how the likes of the main greek and turkish clubs are huge in their countries. not really sure on inter either as you don't really see many of their shirts about.
chelsea and arsenal are certainly massive clubs. lots of support over here and across the globe. one of my best mates is polish and a massive chelsea fan and always said that chelsea, madrid and bayern were probably the biggest foreign clubs in poland.
dortmond possibly could be in the mix as they're a favourite of the hipster football fan lol.
i think PSG are starting to get to that level too as they're fairly big in africa and the ME.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jun 30, 2023 11:35:44 GMT
Luton
If u read their forum
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jun 30, 2023 11:39:01 GMT
Man U
Pool
Pacers
They wished they was English
Barca
Madrid
Are probably the only true big clubs with big support world wide
Rest are next tier
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Post by lymehoop on Jun 30, 2023 11:58:53 GMT
not one London club?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jun 30, 2023 12:22:18 GMT
Chelsea prob biggest global following but not a super club |
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Post by West Acton on Jun 30, 2023 18:36:32 GMT
I get the point about old firm I personally would not have them. I think Arsenal make the list
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 30, 2023 18:54:59 GMT
Had a chat with a Chelsea supporter the other and got into a chat about truly big European Football clubs and I got down to the following. Real Barcelona Ajax Bayern Man Utd Liverpool Juventus Inter AC Milan Celtic Rangers All of the above was based on history and fanbase and not on wealth or as a team now. Does anyone have abyone else? If including Celtic and Rangers then you'd probably need to include Benfica and Sporting Lisbon. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 30, 2023 18:59:33 GMT
i'd take out rangers, celtic and ajax tbh. massive in their countries but not really anywhere else just like how the likes of the main greek and turkish clubs are huge in their countries. not really sure on inter either as you don't really see many of their shirts about. As 73 says, All of the above was based on history and fanbase and not on wealth or as a team now. Therefore no way can Ajax and Inter be left out. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 30, 2023 19:05:00 GMT
I think Arsenal make the list Not by 73's yardstick as historically they've won next to nothing on the European stage. Even Spurs have a better record than them in that regard. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jun 30, 2023 19:16:24 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Jun 30, 2023 19:19:53 GMT
Had a chat with a Chelsea supporter the other and got into a chat about truly big European Football clubs and I got down to the following. Real Barcelona Ajax Bayern Man Utd Liverpool Juventus Inter AC Milan Celtic Rangers All of the above was based on history and fanbase and not on wealth or as a team now. Does anyone have abyone else? If including Celtic and Rangers then you'd probably need to include Benfica and Sporting Lisbon. Celtic and Rangers worldwide are massive football clubs and they are far bigger in fanbase terms than most of the EPL teams. Not about wealth or recent performances it is about history and clubs as institutions. Celtic were the first british team to win the European Cup so are in the bracket of such a club. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jun 30, 2023 19:23:34 GMT
i'd take out rangers, celtic and ajax tbh. massive in their countries but not really anywhere else just like how the likes of the main greek and turkish clubs are huge in their countries. not really sure on inter either as you don't really see many of their shirts about. chelsea and arsenal are certainly massive clubs. lots of support over here and across the globe. one of my best mates is polish and a massive chelsea fan and always said that chelsea, madrid and bayern were probably the biggest foreign clubs in poland. dortmond possibly could be in the mix as they're a favourite of the hipster football fan lol. i think PSG are starting to get to that level too as they're fairly big in africa and the ME. PSG. No chance, Take out Ajax with the history of producing top quality players and a style of play which Guardiola was educated with. Celtic and Rangers not big anywhere but their own country is inaccurate as those two worldwide are massive. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jun 30, 2023 19:25:33 GMT
I get the point about old firm I personally would not have them. I think Arsenal make the list Based on what? All EPL teams have become huge recently due to the appeal of the PL same for Chelsea and City and PSG in France. Big teams but not clubs |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 30, 2023 19:26:40 GMT
Celtic and Rangers worldwide are massive football clubs and they are far bigger in fanbase terms than most of the EPL teams. Not about wealth or recent performances it is about history and clubs as institutions. Celtic were the first british team to win the European Cup so are in the bracket of such a club. No denying that at all 73, just saying would you not include Benfica by same yardstick? |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jun 30, 2023 19:30:43 GMT
Celtic and Rangers worldwide are massive football clubs and they are far bigger in fanbase terms than most of the EPL teams. Not about wealth or recent performances it is about history and clubs as institutions. Celtic were the first british team to win the European Cup so are in the bracket of such a club. No denying that at all 73, just saying would you not inclunde Benfica and Sporting by same yardstick? Benfica for certain. Sportimg maybe not but definitely the former. The issue we have in the modern game is all driven by wealth so depending on where you play dictates on how big you are perceived to be. |
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Post by Corbray on Jun 30, 2023 19:43:20 GMT
i'd take out rangers, celtic and ajax tbh. massive in their countries but not really anywhere else just like how the likes of the main greek and turkish clubs are huge in their countries. not really sure on inter either as you don't really see many of their shirts about. As 73 says, All of the above was based on history and fanbase and not on wealth or as a team now. Therefore no way can Ajax and Inter be left out. but by that same measurment then dortmund, marseille, the 3 turk and portugese clubs and olympiakos have to be included too. all rich histories and lots of trophies with a huge domestic fan base. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Jun 30, 2023 19:49:40 GMT
As 73 says, Therefore no way can Ajax and Inter be left out. but by that same measurment then dortmund, marseille, the 3 turk and portugese clubs and olympiakos have to be included too. all rich histories and lots of trophies with a huge domestic fan base. Corbray. Domestic fanbase yes. Do you realise how big worldwide the Old Firm are? Dortmund outside of Germany not in the same league. Marseille? Upto around 10 to 15 years ago there were more branches of supporters worldwide of Glasgow Rangers than any other team in the world. Celtic as I mentioned were the first British team to win the Europen Cup before Liverpool and United who are the giants of the English game. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jun 30, 2023 19:51:08 GMT
Corby is massive rangers area and it’s Northampton way😀
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Post by alanwycombe on Jun 30, 2023 20:01:46 GMT
Because loads of Jocks settled there to work in steel industry
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Post by The General on Jun 30, 2023 21:06:10 GMT
Barcelonal
Real Madrid
Liverpool
Bayern Munich
Juventus
Man Utd
Arsenal
Ac Milan
Inter Milan
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Post by acricketer on Jun 30, 2023 21:32:26 GMT
I'd not include Arsenal. No European pedigree
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Post by Corbray on Jun 30, 2023 22:32:48 GMT
but by that same measurment then dortmund, marseille, the 3 turk and portugese clubs and olympiakos have to be included too. all rich histories and lots of trophies with a huge domestic fan base. Corbray. Domestic fanbase yes. Do you realise how big worldwide the Old Firm are? Dortmund outside of Germany not in the same league. Marseille? Upto around 10 to 15 years ago there were more branches of supporters worldwide of Glasgow Rangers than any other team in the world. Celtic as I mentioned were the first British team to win the Europen Cup before Liverpool and United who are the giants of the English game. steau bucharest, forest and red star belgrade have all won the CL since celtic too, it doesn't reflect them being a big club imo. dortmund have too. tbh i think of dortmund as a huge club across europe, www.statista.com/statistics/1118294/football-shirt-sales-by-club/ there is an interesting stat in regards to shirt sales. plus dortmund also have the history to go along with it. i personally just don't see rangers or celtic as big clubs across the world. huge in scotland for sure but not around the world |
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Post by MattyRangers on Jul 1, 2023 7:48:07 GMT
Had a chat with a Chelsea supporter the other and got into a chat about truly big European Football clubs and I got down to the following. Real Barcelona Ajax Bayern Man Utd Liverpool Juventus Inter AC Milan Celtic Rangers All of the above was based on history and fanbase and not on wealth or as a team now. Does anyone have abyone else? If including Celtic and Rangers then you'd probably need to include Benfica and Sporting Lisbon. Just a nerdy correction that they aren't actually called Sporting Lisbon - it's Sporting CP. It's similar to calling Chelsea "Chelsea London".... the in laws were quick to point this out to me when I used to refer to them as Sporting Lisbon lol |
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Post by The General on Jul 1, 2023 11:28:22 GMT
Everybody knows Arsenal throughout the
World they are a global club
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