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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 27, 2023 7:20:53 GMT
Now with the new stadium name and money we get from it, I'm pretty sure we have a new manager announced on Monday.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 27, 2023 7:33:21 GMT
Now with the new stadium name and money we get from it, I'm pretty sure we have a new manager announced on Monday. Knowing us it be Noddy but he had his name changed to some exotic name ending in o and hair up in a man bun |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 27, 2023 7:35:53 GMT
Surely they have not done this deal simply to recover the manager. We really are a shambles of a club if true
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Post by West Acton on Oct 27, 2023 7:45:03 GMT
Does this money help us immediately with FFP or is there like date cutoffs it comes into the accounts.
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 27, 2023 7:46:30 GMT
If it brings in £ then it’s good end of. Money in = Ainsworth paid off and new man in Or Ainsworth stays and new signings in Or Either of above to help keep us in the division and any potential new owner happy as relegation means we ain’t getting bought by anyone. Hoping this is a deal, dodgy or not to engineer movement in either the management structure or players in. Personally I hope it’s to pay GA off and change the management team. Win win. Let's hope it isn't to fund Ainsworth when the window opens... That would be an absolute disaster. Beyond that my worry is that this is to balance the books and we still can't afford to sack him. My worry too tbh. They seem to have nailed their flag to the mast with Ainsworth. We might be clutching at straws with this but let’s see what transpires after Saturdays drubbing. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 27, 2023 7:48:05 GMT
The deal probably ain’t worth a wank anyway in financial terms.
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Post by hubble on Oct 27, 2023 7:48:23 GMT
Surely they have done it to pay for a new manager? The timing certainly points to that.
What's comical/criminal is: why didn't they do this before? Why not when Warbs was here and we had a chance of promotion? Other clubs have skated around FFP this way. Only at QPR does everything seem lackadaisical, half-hearted and too late.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 27, 2023 7:52:10 GMT
We not going to get millions for this deal, hearsay probably get more for selling their massive song back catalogue rights😀
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Post by sparks on Oct 27, 2023 8:09:34 GMT
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Post by oldr on Oct 27, 2023 8:20:34 GMT
Surely they have done it to pay for a new manager? The timing certainly points to that.
What's comical/criminal is: why didn't they do this before? Why not when Warbs was here and we had a chance of promotion? Other clubs have skated around FFP this way. Only at QPR does everything seem lackadaisical, half-hearted and too late.
They couldn't do this when Warburton was pushing for promotion because we'd committed ourselves to the Kiyan Prince Foundation.... That decision was always questionable now it seems ludicrous. As I said at the time, we'd have raised more money for the Foundation to fund its own marketing by having a one off friendly against Real Madrid/Barcelona and selling tickets for £50 a pop as Bournemouth did to raise funds... |
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Post by hubble on Oct 27, 2023 8:27:19 GMT
Surely they have done it to pay for a new manager? The timing certainly points to that.
What's comical/criminal is: why didn't they do this before? Why not when Warbs was here and we had a chance of promotion? Other clubs have skated around FFP this way. Only at QPR does everything seem lackadaisical, half-hearted and too late.
They couldn't do this when Warburton was pushing for promotion because we'd committed ourselves to the Kiyan Prince Foundation.... That decision was always questionable now it seems ludicrous. As I said at the time, we'd have raised more money for the Foundation to fund its own marketing by having a one off friendly against Real Madrid/Barcelona and selling tickets for £50 a pop as Bournemouth did to raise funds... Ah yes, of course. You're right, another ludicrous decision, especially in the context of the FFP situation.
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Post by oldr on Oct 27, 2023 8:31:10 GMT
They couldn't do this when Warburton was pushing for promotion because we'd committed ourselves to the Kiyan Prince Foundation.... That decision was always questionable now it seems ludicrous. As I said at the time, we'd have raised more money for the Foundation to fund its own marketing by having a one off friendly against Real Madrid/Barcelona and selling tickets for £50 a pop as Bournemouth did to raise funds... Ah yes, of course. You're right, another ludicrous decision, especially in the context of the FFP situation.
We were losing £1m a month and gave naming rights away for free.... |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 27, 2023 8:36:55 GMT
No win situation that, publicly for them and us u can’t put a price on, and yes ideally it could of been done another way but I’m not going to moan about that
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Post by oldr on Oct 27, 2023 8:44:35 GMT
No win situation that, publicly for them and us u can’t put a price on, and yes ideally it could of been done another way but I’m not going to moan about that On a very slight tangent... It was a continuation of the revisionism of Kiyan Price and about the club trying to overcome the feeling it somehow failed him - it obviously didn't - and rectify this. What I mean by revisionism here, by the way, is that you won't find a single article saying what a great talent he was published prior to his death and suddenly he's morphed into one of the great losses to English football. It's sad and tragic that a young life was taking in such a way but we could have helped the foundation without hurting the club at the same time but had to continue the usually harmless myth that he was a legend in the making. |
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Post by sparks on Oct 27, 2023 8:52:15 GMT
Ah yes, of course. You're right, another ludicrous decision, especially in the context of the FFP situation.
We were losing £1m a month and gave naming rights away for free.... But I think we might all agree it’s ‘Ruben money really’ that is most likely the new source for gaining naming rights to the stadium. I’ve tried to research similar size clubs to us and there’s not a lot of info out there, some such as Hull had a 10 yr agreement (that failed to run its course) which in itself tell a story for me on the small figures involved. If we were missing a huge trick why aren’t more clubs doing it? |
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Post by oldr on Oct 27, 2023 9:07:09 GMT
We were losing £1m a month and gave naming rights away for free.... But I think we might all agree it’s ‘Ruben money really’ that is most likely the new source for gaining naming rights to the stadium. I’ve tried to research similar size clubs to us and there’s not a lot of info out there, some such as Hull had a 10 yr agreement (that failed to run its course) which in itself tell a story for me on the small figures involved. If we were missing a huge trick why aren’t more clubs doing it? Oh yes, definitely is just the club (and especially Ruben) giving extra funds to the club to avoid FFP issues. No doubt about it. However, although I agree that there isn't life changing money involved with the sponsorship of Loftus Road, there would be a decent amount per season which would be useful to the club even if it's just to pay the wages of a couple of first team players or, perhaps, all the development squads. My thoughts are that the club were keen to go to the market after the KPF deal ran out armed with stats about visibility and how great it would be for brands but then for whatever reasons they didn't run with the idea or didn't attract the kind of attention they thought they would. Ironically, however, this failure could help us in the long run as imagine if Ainsworth had been given even more money in the summer..... Although pure conjecture at the moment, at least this could be used to get rid of him. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 27, 2023 9:58:41 GMT
Quite funny that from now on it’s going to be called ‘The What…?’
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 27, 2023 10:31:46 GMT
Sky comms called it the Kiyan Prince etc on Tuesday 🤣😂
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Post by Shania on Oct 27, 2023 10:38:58 GMT
But is this kind of sponsorship allowed?
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Post by 2Loftus on Oct 27, 2023 10:46:30 GMT
But is this kind of sponsorship allowed? Yes, selling stadium naming rights is perfectly OK in FFP. The stipulation is that the amount paid must be based on a reasonable commercial valuation of the sponsorship - so the Mittals couldn't weigh in with a £10m stadium naming deal. So to buy QPR's stadium naming rights, I imagine Matrade paid the loose change found down the back of their CEO's sofa, a Poundland gift voucher and a year's supply of cat litter for Jude. |
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Post by oldr on Oct 27, 2023 10:48:55 GMT
But is this kind of sponsorship allowed? Within reason..... They couldn't agree to sponsor the stadium for £100m but an estimate I've seen bandied around is £500k per season... |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 27, 2023 10:50:59 GMT
Think the sponsorship of KPF was more about awareness then money
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Post by oldr on Oct 27, 2023 10:54:18 GMT
Think the sponsorship of KPF was more about awareness then money Yes and no. It was definitely done with the Foundation's exposure in mind but the club were definitely collating information to share with potential future sponsors. |
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 27, 2023 11:22:29 GMT
Think the sponsorship of KPF was more about awareness then money Yes and no. It was definitely done with the Foundation's exposure in mind but the club were definitely collating information to share with potential future sponsors. Agree and I think hte publicity gained from it probably (hopefully!) brought in extra money as well. I do wonder how much we are 'making' out of this. Could either be a nice tidy sum to sort out our FFP or, and I think it would be this, more of a freebie with Ruben using football to promote another company he helps run. |
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Post by 2Loftus on Oct 27, 2023 11:32:34 GMT
But is this kind of sponsorship allowed? Within reason..... They couldn't agree to sponsor the stadium for £100m but an estimate I've seen bandied around is £500k per season... Half a million per season would be nice, but I suspect that's on the optimistic side. No idea how reliable these figures are - and they're 3-4 years old - but some lower Premier League sides have been 'valued' (guessed at?) on supposedly knowledgeable footie news sites: Watford £800k Bournemouth £600k Southampton £600k Norwich £400k Given that's for the Premier league (and all the global TV visibility that gets), I can't help feeling even £100k a year might be pushing it for relegation-threatened Championship QPR. |
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Post by sparks on Oct 27, 2023 11:46:36 GMT
Well according to Hoos this deal is important.
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Post by oldr on Oct 27, 2023 12:10:59 GMT
That suggests that we're more fucked than we realise....
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 27, 2023 12:24:45 GMT
Lee Hoos on the deal- ‘You have to understand the importance of this agreement’ Hoos' full quote: |
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Post by sparks on Oct 27, 2023 12:32:57 GMT
Is there another article quoting from Hoos other than the one on official Stan?
Both quotes don’t tally up to original post by the club.
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Post by acricketer on Oct 27, 2023 12:35:34 GMT
Does this mean we're not being sold?
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