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Post by spongeparr on Apr 6, 2024 18:17:45 GMT
Interesting one…..Ipswich had momentum, feel good factor and surely had the right mentality throughout the club. Marti had to drag the whole place out of the shit here. I can see the argument for Marti. How can anyone think that Mckenna isn't manager if the season, I have no idea. He's worked wonders there. Marti has obviously done so well but to get Ipswich top, on their budget is unheard of. Remember, Plymouth finished above them ... |
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 6, 2024 19:58:40 GMT
Got it wrong today though. We were unmotivated, lacklustre and tactically found out.
Fingers need to be pulled of a few arses pronto.
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 6, 2024 20:02:43 GMT
Really poor off day.
Worry for me is Plymouth is a very tricky game.
Let’s hope we get at least a point and others fuck up.
Big setback today against a shit side.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 6, 2024 20:19:37 GMT
Plymouth is a tough game as they've relied heavily on their home form all season and have some food players. as much as today was shit it's also one of those games that can be beneficial in the long run as given we've been on a great run it can cause the players to relax and believe their own hype.
i said in the match thread that i thought wednesday would win as they have more to fight for than us. our players must have been thinking the job was done and that they only had to turn up today to get a result. it happens and i don't really blame marti for it, he's as pissed off as we all are but to be fair to him his options off the bench were pretty limited.
we're still in the driving seat but need to hit that 50pts mark ASAP.
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Post by James1979 on Apr 6, 2024 21:46:59 GMT
Worry for me is that we’re not playing well. We’ve got to find 4 or maybe 6 points from somewhere. Tuesday will be very tough. We’ve really messed this up after Brum and Swans game.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 7, 2024 7:51:05 GMT
He played the team everyone was calling for so he can’t be knocked for that but it was clearly not working and he was slow in the changes and for me left on the players that should have been taken off. Armstrong, Willock, chair and Anderson gave as bad a performance from an attacking foursome as I’ve ever seen so how all four lasted 90+ mins is beyond me.
Has to do better Tuesday.
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 7, 2024 9:17:17 GMT
That was same as I saw it.
Too slow to change and when he did it was weird changed.
Joint balls up yesterday between players and manager.
Plymouth we don’t have a great record there so a draw will be good. Anything more than that, amazing.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 7, 2024 10:04:09 GMT
Happy with draws and limp to safety. Just don’t lose and have it all on Lids and Coventry.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 7, 2024 11:31:31 GMT
Partly agree but who did he have on the bench?
Smyth didn’t add a whole lot.
Dykes ditto.
Hodge?
Albert?
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Post by West Acton on Apr 7, 2024 12:30:15 GMT
Partly agree but who did he have on the bench? Smyth didn’t add a whole lot. Dykes ditto. Hodge? Albert? agree bench is ok for midfield and defence but fact we have shit striking/attacking options to even start a game kind of makes bench redundant for changing it up during games going forwards. You switch a turd on the pitch for a different turd off it 😩☹️ |
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 7, 2024 17:44:16 GMT
Quite a lot of negativity following just one loss with a poor performance guys
Compare that to the sentiment here following previous three unbeaten games when everyone was raving. The difference is like chalk and cheese
Think we need to temper things a bit and get some perspective
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 7, 2024 17:57:57 GMT
Quite a lot of negativity following just one loss with a poor performance guys Compare that to the sentiment here following previous three unbeaten games when everyone was raving. The difference is like chalk and cheese Think we need to temper things and get some perspective seems negative in comparison because a few people got carried away. Reality is, as it was post Jacks, we're still in the mix to go down. We have to turn that abysmal performance into a massive wake up call, for everyone inc MC. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 10, 2024 7:39:00 GMT
The question has to be asked.
Why is Marti utilising an old and ineffective Albert Adomah after not playing for months over a young, quick and fit Joe Hodge?
Two must win games in a row now he has opted for Adomah who has brought absolutely nothing to the team or the game and left Hodge on the bench gaining 0 minutes. Ironically too, it was Adomah who scored the own goal last night although I’m blaming Begovic for that one.
Love Marti but his in game management at times is questionable for me. Makes weird substitutions and more often than not, too late.
Just my opinion.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 10, 2024 8:04:28 GMT
Agree for as good as he is there does seem to be some peculiarities in decisions.
Albert has gone from not making match squad and playing for development squad to coming off the bench. Only defence I would make is some fans on twitter were calling for him to play upfront given how bad striking options are so he’s not alone.
Signing of Hodge has turned out to be totally pointless apart from debut. Could be saving a wage or got someone in that actually would have played and made difference.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Apr 10, 2024 8:08:05 GMT
I think Hodge is quite poor tbh. Had good first game but been anonymous since. Agree though that wouldn't play Adomah in any circumstances.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 10, 2024 8:12:48 GMT
I think Albert is an old and experienced head and is often useful in those rare time when we are ahead and want a bit of game management. I don't see that as a particularly big mistake. It is rare I disagree with jfr but I think Martis subs are generally pretty good given what he has to work with.
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Post by BrightonR on Apr 10, 2024 8:33:32 GMT
I think overall MC has done well, but he has an awful lot to learn about this league. I’m confident given the time, which in fairness he hasn’t had given other more pressing issues, he’ll start to make wiser decisions.
I’d be astonished if he hasn’t already made it perfectly clear to the board that two quality strikers and a keeper are an absolute must if we are to progress in any meaningful way. You simply cannot function properly when you have totally shit options in front of the goal at both ends of the pitch.
Fingers crossed.
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 10, 2024 8:39:45 GMT
The last time any attacking player scored was the 2nd March. It's not acceptable.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 10, 2024 9:04:35 GMT
The last time any attacking player scored was the 2nd March. It's not acceptable. uncle is a attacking player, he scored last night |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 10, 2024 9:05:34 GMT
Pretty baffled tbh why Marti is getting criticised for not bringing on a prolific goalscorer. I'd love to be introduced to this wonderkid. One minute the answer is Armstrong, then he plays. I was among those who suggested Adomah pre match out of desperation, then he plays. Now the talk is Hodge, until he next plays. Since his debut whenever he comes on he is just blown off the ball and goes missing whenever the going gets tough. About the last thing you need when the match gets really tasty last 10 minutes IMHO, or am I missing something others see? Apparently Marti has a lot to learn about the Championship? Well, he is a modest guy, don't think he would disagree. But what is his great failure? Is it that the club hasn't signed a decent striker in a decade? Or his nativity not playing Hodge? Or that we have some AN Other brilliant option he's not selecting? Help appreciated.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 10, 2024 9:16:26 GMT
No strikers and a dodgy keeper. Defence pretty solid, decent defensive midfield cover - Marti is doing ok.
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Post by 1qprdk on Apr 10, 2024 9:24:27 GMT
As posted in the match thread, he should have put Armstrong on for Dykes, after we went ahead. Threaten them with pace in behind, and give them a worry. Even though he is shit, they still have to deal with his pace and physicality. Just my opinion.
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Post by Bill on Apr 10, 2024 9:35:00 GMT
No strikers and a dodgy keeper. Defence pretty solid, decent defensive midfield cover - Marti is doing ok. Just hope ok is good enough. |
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Post by Bill on Apr 10, 2024 9:36:46 GMT
As posted in the match thread, he should have put Armstrong on for Dykes, after we went ahead. Threaten them with pace in behind, and give them a worry. Even though he is shit, they still have to deal with his pace and physicality. Just my opinion. This with bells on,its so obvious. Dykes on the pitch still gave us nothing and allowed their defenders to push forward. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Apr 10, 2024 9:46:32 GMT
As posted in the match thread, he should have put Armstrong on for Dykes, after we went ahead. Threaten them with pace in behind, and give them a worry. Even though he is shit, they still have to deal with his pace and physicality. Just my opinion. On the other hand, Dykes wins some defensive headers inside our own box. Can't say the same about Armstrong. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 10, 2024 9:47:48 GMT
As posted in the match thread, he should have put Armstrong on for Dykes, after we went ahead. Threaten them with pace in behind, and give them a worry. Even though he is shit, they still have to deal with his pace and physicality. Just my opinion. This times a million. Not digging out Marty, but he has to know our strike 'force' is shit. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 10, 2024 9:50:20 GMT
As posted in the match thread, he should have put Armstrong on for Dykes, after we went ahead. Threaten them with pace in behind, and give them a worry. Even though he is shit, they still have to deal with his pace and physicality. Just my opinion. Mate, you might have been right, we will never know, but very little hard evidence for your claim. Ultimately the manager has to make a decision on what he sees in training. If we had closed the game out this board would be full of chatter about another Marti-masterclass. Armstrong might have come on and done what he did at Leicester. Or he might have done what he did against Sheffield Wed, which was get bullied by the centre half off every ball knocked up high to him. I remember there was an away match where we were similarly hanging on and Armstrong failed to hold on to the ball and the oppo scored a decisive, late goal as a result. Am not saying it would have happened again (who knows?) but Marti has a long memory - look how many players were dropped long-term after the Millwall away debacle. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 10, 2024 9:50:54 GMT
As posted in the match thread, he should have put Armstrong on for Dykes, after we went ahead. Threaten them with pace in behind, and give them a worry. Even though he is shit, they still have to deal with his pace and physicality. Just my opinion. This times a million. Not digging out Marty, but he has to know our strike 'force' is shit. Our strike force includes Armstrong |
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 10, 2024 9:52:11 GMT
This times a million. Not digging out Marty, but he has to know our strike 'force' is shit. Our strike force includes Armstrong As the post I was replying to named clear. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 10, 2024 9:55:26 GMT
Our strike force includes Armstrong As the post I was replying to named clear. So what would you have done differently? |
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