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Post by jfrabbit on Nov 16, 2023 20:10:45 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Nov 30, 2023 12:05:10 GMT
Any news on muscles is he available?
Don’t recall any other knocks from midweek
Think got be looking for a draw minimum
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Post by Bill on Nov 30, 2023 12:18:59 GMT
Fitness will play a major factor in this game,so lose
as our fitness is very questionable.
Friday night on sky does not fit well either.
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 30, 2023 12:40:39 GMT
Take a point
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 30, 2023 12:53:37 GMT
Their form isn't great and their defence is very leaky. Going for a shock away win.
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Post by acricketer on Nov 30, 2023 12:55:27 GMT
Lightening doesn't strike twice!
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 30, 2023 12:59:02 GMT
Lightening doesn't strike twice!  |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Nov 30, 2023 14:17:49 GMT
Back down to earth with an almighty bump I think. Preston away is always difficult regardless how we're doing or what our form is like, this won't be any different. Would be happy with a point here.
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Post by MattyRangers on Nov 30, 2023 14:42:47 GMT
I'm falling for it again & getting sucked in by hope.... WIN!
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Post by The General on Nov 30, 2023 15:11:24 GMT
Away win 2-1
Dykes and Chair
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Post by West Acton on Nov 30, 2023 15:40:53 GMT
8th best home record but have shipped as many goals as they have scored so you can get at them.
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Post by The General on Nov 30, 2023 17:44:29 GMT
Draws and Wins are the way forward
This will keep us up in the division
Draw is ok but a win
Will see Ginge waving his wand again
Let’s hope the ginger python rears it head
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Post by West Acton on Nov 30, 2023 18:14:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 20:51:08 GMT
It's on Sky... we all know how this normally work out.
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Post by The General on Nov 30, 2023 21:30:07 GMT
It's on Sky... we all know how this normally work out. That Ho doo is over Old now |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 30, 2023 21:44:01 GMT
Salter to start for Dunne Colback benched I’d keep Colback and maybe….put my tin hat on……bench Field. Can’t see Marti dropping Colback ( sic). He name checks him a lot in interviews. Dozzell back in contention for tomorrow now, so be interesting to see what he does |
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Post by acricketer on Nov 30, 2023 22:28:19 GMT
8th best home record but have shipped as many goals as they have scored so you can get at them. What with?!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 0:18:20 GMT
It's on Sky... we all know how this normally work out. That Ho doo is over Old now Like the win at Old Trafford in 92 heralded the start of a great run of results up there, eh? 😉 |
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Post by sparks on Dec 1, 2023 7:27:59 GMT
It was very easy for Salter to stand out during the week due to timing of the sub and Stoke sitting back with 10 men.
He’s probably quicker than both Cook and Dunne but I’m not so sure he’s suited in a back 4 with more space to cover.
Salter has always looked too timid to play against brawny types of strikers and won’t win too many battles if we are under the cosh defending aerial balls.
Theres no denying Dunne is liable to make mistakes but he would still be in my team every week ahead of both Salter and Cook if we are playing in a 4.
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Post by sparks on Dec 1, 2023 7:39:06 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Dec 1, 2023 8:26:41 GMT
Going disagree with you on the Dunne debate Sparks. When he came I was impressed but gradually he’s gone backwards. Salter if fit walks into the defence in whatever formation we play and I would argue when Fox is fit Dunne is very much looking at being sat on the bench.
Certainly a place for him in squad but he’s by no means automatic choice to start.
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Post by sparks on Dec 1, 2023 9:19:24 GMT
Let’s talk facts , firstly Salter and Fox are historically proven to be seriously injury prone meaning playing less games equates significantly less chances to make mistakes.
Secondly, how would Cook, Salter or Fox perform if continually played on the wrong side of the pitch..I.e Dunne is predominately right sided yet is continually shoe-horned into the left side for reasons mentioned above.
If as you boldly state ‘Salter walks into this team’ in any formation’ why does MC insinuate that he won’t start tonight against what he describes as Preston being a ‘Rotherham type team in play style’
Everyone is entitled to an opinion about players but to suggest that Fox is a better alternative than Dunne is laughable and similar to Ainsworth exclaiming signing Begovic, Cook, Fox, Colback and Smyth being great summer transfer window..Barring possibly Cook I would emphatically claim that none of Ainsworth signings were any better than those players they supposedly replaced.
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 1, 2023 10:34:20 GMT
Same as Norwich for me as in head says draw, heart says win.
A draw would be a decent result but a win would be massive.
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Post by Corbray on Dec 1, 2023 10:36:45 GMT
stef, dieng and dickie weren't really big losses imo.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Dec 1, 2023 10:47:40 GMT
Let’s talk facts , firstly Salter and Fox are historically proven to be seriously injury prone meaning playing less games equates significantly less chances to make mistakes. Secondly, how would Cook, Salter or Fox perform if continually played on the wrong side of the pitch..I.e Dunne is predominately right sided yet is continually shoe-horned into the left side for reasons mentioned above. If as you boldly state ‘Salter walks into this team’ in any formation’ why does MC insinuate that he won’t start tonight against what he describes as Preston being a ‘Rotherham type team in play style’ Everyone is entitled to an opinion about players but to suggest that Fox is a better alternative than Dunne is laughable and similar to Ainsworth exclaiming signing Begovic, Cook, Fox, Colback and Smyth being great summer transfer window..Barring possibly Cook I would emphatically claim that none of Ainsworth signings were any better than those players they supposedly replaced. Even allowing for Dunne being played on the wrong side it doesn't excuse (IMHO) a really serious error virtually every match which often results in a goal - more than any other defender we have had in recent times. If you can face the horror show of looking back at every goal we have conceded in the last year he will be at the scene of the crime of a hell of a lot of them. Its always been the case with him and if anything its getting worse not better. No coincidence that we have had one of the worst defensive records in the league for the last calendar year and he has been the most consistently present player in the heart of that defence. I can put up with him in a three but he just isn't good enough in a two. I'm sorry but he is a donkey - a well intentioned donkey and a fighter for sure, but beating his chest and looking like he is up for it is not enough to get in the team in my view. If fit (and get that is a big if) Clarke-Salter and Cook are head and shoulders our best in a two. I'd be happy though to play with a three if we have Cannon as think him and Paal add enough going forward to make up for the loss of a Dozzell or a Coleback in midfield who don't do much anyway. |
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Post by sparks on Dec 1, 2023 11:21:49 GMT
Let’s talk facts , firstly Salter and Fox are historically proven to be seriously injury prone meaning playing less games equates significantly less chances to make mistakes. Secondly, how would Cook, Salter or Fox perform if continually played on the wrong side of the pitch..I.e Dunne is predominately right sided yet is continually shoe-horned into the left side for reasons mentioned above. If as you boldly state ‘Salter walks into this team’ in any formation’ why does MC insinuate that he won’t start tonight against what he describes as Preston being a ‘Rotherham type team in play style’ Everyone is entitled to an opinion about players but to suggest that Fox is a better alternative than Dunne is laughable and similar to Ainsworth exclaiming signing Begovic, Cook, Fox, Colback and Smyth being great summer transfer window..Barring possibly Cook I would emphatically claim that none of Ainsworth signings were any better than those players they supposedly replaced. Even allowing for Dunne being played on the wrong side it doesn't excuse (IMHO) a really serious error virtually every match which often results in a goal - more than any other defender we have had in recent times. If you can face the horror show of looking back at every goal we have conceded in the last year he will be at the scene of the crime of a hell of a lot of them. It’s always been the case with him and if anything it’s getting worse not better. No coincidence that we have had one of the worst defensive records in the league for the last calendar year and he has been the most consistently present player in the heart of that defence. I can put up with him in a three but he just isn't good enough in a two. I'm sorry but he is a donkey - a well intentioned donkey and a fighter for sure, but beating his chest and looking like he is up for it is not enough to get in the team in my view. If fit (and get that is a big if) Clarke-Salter and Cook are head and shoulders our best in a two. I'd be happy though to play with a three if we have Cannon as think him and Paal add enough going forward to make up for the loss of a Dozzell or a Coleback in midfield who don't do much anyway. It’s very easy to avoid looking too closely at Cook and Salter and focusing entirely on Dunne because he’s been here longer and plays most games. Off the top of my head Cook has deflected 2 past our keeper and was static for Stokes 2nd, that’s just in 13 games for us. Is that not more goals against us than Dunne was directly responsible for this season. Cook is just basically another Dunne type player with at least 7 years more experience behind him. More importantly is he head and shoulders above Dunne, I think the the money could have been spent much more wisely in a different area of the team if Salter wasn’t such a sick note. You admit Salter playing regularly is a huge ‘if’ but until he does start doing exactly that it’s a nonsense to suggest otherwise Stainrod. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Dec 1, 2023 11:40:53 GMT
You always argue well Sparks but not sure its nonsense. I conceded its a very big "if" that CS is fit but all I'm saying is that if he is then he is much better and I would always select a fit SC over a fit Dunne - particularly under Marti where we are at least trying to play out from the back.
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Post by Corbray on Dec 1, 2023 11:54:48 GMT
dunne is inconsistent and has poor concentration imo. he's a good player who gets stuck in but those kinds of deficencies really cost him. if he was consistent and could stay switched on then he would be a prem player as he has all the other attributes needed.
JCS is our best CB and if he stayed fit he'd be one of the best in the league. i've never seen him put a foot wrong but sadly we never get to actually see him
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Post by sparks on Dec 1, 2023 12:11:29 GMT
Until Salter plays more games this discussion whether he can play in a 4 or even if he’s a viable option at CB is a complete unknown.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 1, 2023 13:20:58 GMT
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