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Post by Vespa on Jan 3, 2020 17:40:18 GMT
We’re not going win FA Cup Thats what we thought in 82 ( yes i know we didnt win it even then ,before someone says something ! ) but we made the final and back then all the big clubs put out their best teams right from the off . |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jan 3, 2020 17:45:16 GMT
We’re not going win FA Cup Thats what we thought in 82 ( yes i know we didnt win it even then ,before someone says something ! ) but we made the final and back then all the big clubs put out their best teams right from the off . Worth it for the victory at Highbury against WBA alone wasn't it mate. So unlucky in the final replay as well. Out played Spurs. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 3, 2020 18:13:19 GMT
Dead for the big clubs yes but QPR should be looking at getting as far as they can and earning as much out of being in it as they can. Until you reach the latter stages it isn't even as financially attractive as a televised game.  Third Round Proper winners (32) £135,000 etc hang on a sec Esox, is that the media money alone? Because gate money matters if you get a big away draw. Nevertheless, I'm surprised the rights money is so paltry |
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Post by 72bus on Jan 3, 2020 18:32:52 GMT
Watching cup games in recent years has put me off this year , think he'll play a very weakened team with the bees and Leeds coming up ...warbs will know 3 wins and yr back in the play offs . Look how millwall have slipped into 6th place
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 3, 2020 19:03:49 GMT
Until you reach the latter stages it isn't even as financially attractive as a televised game. Third Round Proper winners (32) £135,000 etc hang on a sec Esox, is that the media money alone? Because gate money matters if you get a big away draw. Nevertheless, I'm surprised the rights money is so paltry That is the FA prize money hal, gate money is 50-50 (after policing and matchday costs are taken out I believe) so a game at home for us with tickets for a fiver isn't going to make anyone rich and is why the club close parts of the ground or it would be at a loss. Even a sell out at Old Trafford would only nett around £250-300k. Any teams with thoughts of getting promoted to the EPL, where the stupid money is, are not going to risk it all for a day out at Wembley. That only matters to the fans who have been following clubs for years where there has been little success. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 3, 2020 19:16:08 GMT
Since 2000, Wigan & Portsmouth aside, only Arsenal, Chelsea, United Liverpool and Man City have won the cup. It’s a closed shop. Reckon if you go back another 20 years other then odd exception it’s those clubs above still winning it city removed.
It’s a competition which we have no chance in, like the rest of the clubs other then the above, which probably costs us more then we actually get out of it.
Would love a cup run but as said if we go out not fussed
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 3, 2020 19:45:24 GMT
So don't enter then. Be honest and we'll all know where we stand. Man U opted out some years back and I don't think they've made it compulsory since.
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Post by BrightonR on Jan 3, 2020 20:03:43 GMT
The 3rd Round of the FA Cup used to be one of the biggest days of the football calendar . The proper beginning of the best cup competition in existence.
I haven’t bothered going to a cup game since our club, along with nearly every other club, made it clear that they were pointless non events, with ridiculous team selections taking the piss out of loyal, paying fans.
I haven’t watched a final for a good 10 years now I think and couldn’t even begin to name who have won it in that time.
I must sound like a right miserable bastard. 😂
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Post by West Acton on Jan 3, 2020 20:06:40 GMT
The 3rd Round of the FA Cup used to be one of the biggest days of the football calendar . The proper beginning of the best cup competition in existence. I haven’t bothered going to a cup game since our club, along with nearly every other club, made it clear that they were pointless non events, with ridiculous team selections taking the piss out of loyal, paying fans. I haven’t watched a final for a good 10 years now I think and couldn’t even begin to name who have won it in that time. I must sound like a right miserable bastard. 😂 used to love the FA Cup but while it’s not taken seriously and fans cant be arsed turning up it’s dead. Sitting in SA Rd as most stands are shut as no interest. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 3, 2020 20:28:12 GMT
The 3rd Round of the FA Cup used to be one of the biggest days of the football calendar . The proper beginning of the best cup competition in existence. I haven’t bothered going to a cup game since our club, along with nearly every other club, made it clear that they were pointless non events, with ridiculous team selections taking the piss out of loyal, paying fans. I haven’t watched a final for a good 10 years now I think and couldn’t even begin to name who have won it in that time. I must sound like a right miserable bastard. 😂 You miserable bastard. |
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Post by Vespa on Jan 4, 2020 1:08:51 GMT
Thats what we thought in 82 ( yes i know we didnt win it even then ,before someone says something ! ) but we made the final and back then all the big clubs put out their best teams right from the off . Worth it for the victory at Highbury against WBA alone wasn't it mate. So unlucky in the final replay as well. Out played Spurs. worth it ,just for the Palace match , that match was mental ,in more ways than one ! |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 4, 2020 10:19:06 GMT
Will be interesting to see if we cup-tie Eze.
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Post by Bill on Jan 4, 2020 15:18:14 GMT
So out of interest.
Would you Fa cup doubters go if we drew a top side home or away,say Liverpool,shity,utd ,scom spuds,etc.
Just curious
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Post by West Acton on Jan 4, 2020 16:19:38 GMT
Well I’m going tomorrow and we have not drawn a top side so not sure what your point is??
I think FA Cup has died and become pointless but I’m QPR fan first so when they play, whatever the tournament I will turn up and support them
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Post by Bill on Jan 4, 2020 16:55:07 GMT
Fair enough,some on here say they have not been cup game for ages or just cant be bothered.
My point is would you change your mind if we drew a big side where we are the underdogs
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Post by Bill on Jan 4, 2020 16:57:47 GMT
If we were to beat Swansea who would you like in the next round
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 4, 2020 16:58:57 GMT
Anyone big and it would prove your point.
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Post by Bill on Jan 4, 2020 17:03:15 GMT
So to a certain degree the FA cup still has some magic left.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 4, 2020 17:04:19 GMT
Away game at ground not been don’t care if it big or small side
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Post by West Acton on Jan 4, 2020 17:06:39 GMT
So to a certain degree the FA cup still has some magic left. if it had appeal we would have more then two stands open Been watching them go round grounds on bt sport all of them , outside prem, have half ground shut. That never happened 20years ago you drew your regular gate Begs question why do prem sides turn up still but not really outside top flight? |
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Post by Bill on Jan 4, 2020 17:18:10 GMT
Because they have a chance of silverware?
Maybe the draw needs to be rehashed in some way or a whole new aporoach to the competion.
This wont happen though cause the Fa
Are antiquated,stubborn and stuck in a time warp,in other words full of old farts
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 4, 2020 19:22:44 GMT
Cup Final day hasn't been the same since they dropped Freddie Starr dressed up as Hitler....
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Post by West Acton on Jan 5, 2020 10:08:15 GMT
They’re discussing demise of FA Cup on Sunday Supplement now
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Post by West Acton on Jan 5, 2020 11:46:41 GMT
If we lose and don't get a crowd of 8,000 we make a loss... That's why we need to win. how you know 8k is break even point mate?? I think we will get like 6/7k |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 5, 2020 11:57:07 GMT
simple solution, been saying this for years, get rid of 4th place in the prem and make the fa cup winners get a champions league qualifying place.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 5, 2020 12:17:52 GMT
simple solution, been saying this for years, get rid of 4th place in the prem and make the fa cup winners get a champions league qualifying place. The problem is that its becoming rare for a team who hasn't already qualified for the Champions League to win the FA Cup. Its even rarer that a team who hasn't already qualified for any European football to win. The solution is to seed it or scrap it. Sad but true. said this other day. Only 5 clubs win FA Cup now. Whilst the prem is as rich as it is FA Cup won’t recover as prem sides will rest players in the hope it sees them avoid relegation and championship sides will rest players in hope they make play offs and go up |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 5, 2020 12:19:31 GMT
how you know 8k is break even point mate?? I think we will get like 6/7k I had a chat with someone at the club last season. The overheads and wages for matchday staff combined with the sharing of the gate reciepts means we have to get that much to guarantee a profit of £1 if we don't win and open up all stands. thats crazy. Surely sensible way would be to split what’s left after home side have covered costs of putting on the game. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 5, 2020 13:11:03 GMT
If your around my age50,you should feel sad how disregarded the fa cup now is. When I grew up it didn't matter whom u played,ground be bust and buzzing and country came to standstill to watch final and all the build uo regardless of whom was playing and who u supported.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 5, 2020 19:07:27 GMT
Today’s attendance 6712 that’s shocking
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 5, 2020 19:24:40 GMT
I love the cup.
Yes the media rights whoring situation has royally fucked it, but it does mean you get to see the kids going for it. That Jones kid up at Anfield, the touch on before the goal... No one can tell me those youngsters weren't giving it.
Plus, like I always say, a little run does big things for confidence. It still matters.
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