The psychology of an average QPR fan

I'd be intriged to see such a man. Could use his 1 wood as a kick stand.

Agreed - I think Clive's writing is excellent, no brown-nosing of the club, goes way beyond the usual bland match reports or analysis and reflects the frustrations of being a fan of such a dysfunctional team. Always well-observed, usually with a very funny personal take. Really don't understand why people take against him - I think he's the best writer around on things QPR.

Psycology now there is a vast subject.

Covers most situations in life.

Following this club think as already said being mental whatever that is helps.

Also love whatever that is.
Tradition,habit,tribal,loyalty,memories good and bad,family influence, socialising and no end of other reasons to cause you to keep going back.
Imo hope and faith the next game might be better (not really applicable now lol)but we still go back.

Expectations play a huge part as well but after taking to many hits you become punch drunk and think,why am i doing this?

62 my first game at White City with my uncle.
After that me and my best mate went to a game most Saturdays in London.
Might be Fulham Chelsea Brentford Arsenal West Ham and very rare Tottering Hotspur.
Some grounds would let kids in for nothing,some one of us paid and the other crawled under the turnstile.Sometimes it waa a known entry where you went through a gap in the fence or corrugated iron.

After a couple of years i finally settled on Rangers.
Family tradition, exciting football,proximty to the pitch and ease of getting in as most grounds were tightening security.

MY Dad was an arsehole left home when i was 11.He sort of suppirted Arsenal being from that area,later found out he was a bigamist.

Mum and family came from Notting Hill indeed my nan came out the workhouse there.
My uncles really led me to Rangers,my Uncle Charlie got drunk win lose or draw,my Uncle Bill was tick tack man at White City dogs and other shady deals.

So out of all clubs mentioned it was Rangers and has been ever since.

Maybe its love whatever that is?
I dont really know.

Whatever it is its becoming very trying to look forward to games under this regime because football is dire nobody in the club seems to care and future looks very uncertain which you may or may not agree with.

Fair enough.

Have to say that I don’t listen to the Podcast and base my view on Clive entirely on his written work, which I really enjoy.

I don’t particularly rate Whittingham QPR pieces, I find most of them boring and over egged for the most part and contain too many schoolboy toilet style humour words for my liking.

I describe myself as an optimist where QPR are concerned, I’m guessing due to seeing our best times during my younger years. I try to avoid reading Whittingham mostly negative stuff about the players but notice he is very careful when commenting about the board and owners.

Was great to see when Marti arrived he said things like “why should I think a draw is a good result” as standards at the club have been set so low from the owners and recently now the fans.

His comment on Jan transfer business “it’s not my job to oversee transfers as I’m head coach but I’m sure there are ways to be creative to show how important this club is to English football” is another stab at trying to raise the standards.

I remember an article from Clive last season after a match that had a long analogy about an imminent plane crash that was saved by some sort of miracle intervention...

I grumbled about it but his cult followers said it was brilliant and theoretically us beating Burnley was our miracle where Field actually scored a goal and Chris Martin saved us... (When is he rejoining?). So what do I know....

I really can't abide any of the current QPR podcasts ....

I've even gone off WLS, it hasn't been the same since Dan Bennett? left... He was a good neutral voice

Finney and McCullough are just not my cup of tea so can't be arsed to listen to either bootlick or mate...

The problem is not only stylistic, it's also the complete lack of any real investigative journalism. For example, there was nothing about Uncle's financial backgorund (ie Air Asia and Malayan government subsidies or the way Bernie bent him over and got stuck in re Caterham). These things which pre existed his time with us would given fans a massive heads up into the reality of Uncle's financial and sporting competence. It was only when things started going to shite that a few people - not including Clice - started looking. 

I think the club see him as fam, for all the huffing and puffing he isn't going to rock the boat.

You could well be right about him wanting (needing?) to maintain access to the club. To me, that’s entirely understandable, it’s his bread and butter.

But I’ve never seen him make anything of his ‘status’ on LFW - articles aside, he posts as any other member on the board, doesn’t pull rank or demean people with other views. 

As a journo, its how you manage the access.  Otherwise you're the one getting managed.

I also think he has an inability to probe into some of the context - specifically the financial context - behind some of the key players in the boardroom. As previously mentioned.

Also, I don't think he's ever approached ex players for their take on the rolling catastrophe of the last decade.  Rio for example has shed light on a few things. That was one some YouTube channel.  It's the kind of material Clive is a million miles away from. 

only thing that annoys me with clive is he does come across as a bit of a parrot for the board, as others have said he seems to revel in his status as a famous fan with a link to the club and his own personal fiefdom in LFW.
i can only think of one interview with someone from the club were he pressed them for answers, i think it was a hoos one from a few years back.

that being said though i imagine he's been told in advance what he can and can't ask when interviewing someone from the club. its an arranged interview rather than a fans forum where you can ask whatever, shoutout to alan for giving a great account of himself and disagreeing then pressing lee for an answer last year during a fans forum lol.

the podcasts are hit and miss for me. i've spoken to finney a few times at away games and to be fair to him he comes across as a good bloke. i think he just plays up to it on the pod more than anything.

Clive Whittingham, LFW.

Don't know about the psychology, but have to say the average qpr fan is a fucking brilliant person, both on here and who you meet in Shepherds Bush. Just had a lovely weekend with my mate and brother in law, flying in for the Millwall game Friday and back Sunday morning. Not only was the win great, but the amount of friendly people we met at the game and in the local watering holes, was equally impressive. I'd say we're a brilliant bunch.

Agree, but the whole experience would have been well worth the trip either way.