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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 26, 2024 11:37:42 GMT
Never heard of either of them but I trust Marti's judgment.
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Post by The General on Jun 26, 2024 12:18:56 GMT
Good we have to trust their judgement As so far their signing have been awsome
Is Reggie gonna play this year he seems out of favour and surplus tbh
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Post by The General on Jun 26, 2024 13:47:37 GMT
Hope Liam is not to replace JCS
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Post by BrightonR on Jun 26, 2024 15:09:35 GMT
Never heard of either of them but I trust Marti's judgment. Could be a very refreshing change. Fed up with acting in desperation and chasing bang average players year in, year out.
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Post by The General on Jun 26, 2024 17:00:15 GMT
Should get some players from Asia to Fill the Hround with another 5 thousand Ji sing park fans
Qpr were massive in Asia when he played for us Even though he was shite
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 27, 2024 9:39:33 GMT
Begovic has gone. Should be announced today according to various reports.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jun 27, 2024 9:46:37 GMT
Begovic has gone. Should be announced today according to various reports. Message from Bego...
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 27, 2024 10:11:40 GMT
Begovic has gone. Should be announced today according to various reports. Message from Bego... Good luck to him picking up a fat paycheck every week on the geordie bench. If he was more assertive and confident at coming for crosses he would still be world class. That I’m afraid is his down fall.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 27, 2024 13:08:59 GMT
Relieved. Was concerned about the media chat a few weeks back suggesting we were looking to renew. I never gave a monkeys about the Chelsea stuff that annoyed some fans but the key stat for me was that in terms of expected goals saved he had (from memory) a -7 rating, whereas the best performing keeper in the division had something like a +7 rating. So even if he had just saved the shots he was expected to save, I imagine those 7 extra goals he let in cost us quite a lot of points. Plus he was probably one of our highest earners as Ainsworth was positively creaming himself with excitement that little ol' QPR had been able to sign a keeper of his pedigree. A keeper who can claim the odd cross and play out from the back could make a very significant difference next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 14:30:25 GMT
Hope Liam is not to replace JCS Good signing on a free imo - ready made replacement IF JCS gets snapped up giving us some cash in the bank, plus Fox and Cook not getting younger likely to miss a few games. Youngs and we could get a good 5 years out of him if he works out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 14:35:16 GMT
Never heard of either of them but I trust Marti's judgment. Yeap and how many fans had heard of Marti before he joined us. Prefer this than picking up below par and aging rejects in the UK. Bergovic gone - Past his best already and he made a few mistakes but did a job for us last season when we had our backs against the wall so good luck to him probably as a well paid bench warmer.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 27, 2024 14:40:12 GMT
Bothered!! Bang average keeper on steep decline
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Post by Bill on Jun 27, 2024 14:45:48 GMT
We need to start signing a few very soon to be ready for pre season Keep our best players too next season fixtures already look tough first 5 games very tough Plenty of time
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 27, 2024 14:51:40 GMT
twitter saying we're in advanced talks with a brazilian RB named hevertton santos. If true an odd one, I thought Dunne was mainly great at right back and would be happy with him as first choice. Got roasted a few times when up against a specialist winger like against Hull but for the most part his extra height was a major reason IMHO for our massively improved performance defending set plays. Plus he was often our most effective out-ball. Isn't Reggie Cannon also still under contract??? I mean, I'm all for competition but when budgets are so limited surely we should prioritise a striker?
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Post by Hertfordshire Ranger on Jun 27, 2024 15:02:23 GMT
twitter saying we're in advanced talks with a brazilian RB named hevertton santos. If true an odd one, I thought Dunne was mainly great at right back and would be happy with him as first choice. Got roasted a few times when up against a specialist winger like against Hull but for the most part his extra height was a major reason IMHO for our massively improved performance defending set plays. Plus he was often our most effective out-ball. Isn't Reggie Cannon also still under contract??? I mean, I'm all for competition but when budgets are so limited surely we should prioritise a striker? Well Cannon was signed back in the days when we were allowed to know about contract durations, Gareth was delighted he signed a long term (four year) contract. But it was noticeable that Marti did not pick Cannon, and opted for Dunne, that at the time looked far riskier. But it was yet another example of Marti's clever thinking. But perhaps Cannon wants out (he went on the sulk at his last place) and we have just signed Friel as well, albeit very young. Perhaps the Cannon deal contained options or conditions, because Marti certainly didn't seem to want to start him. www.qpr.co.uk/news/2023/september/26/defender-reggie-cannon-joins-qpr/
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Post by Rexpat on Jun 27, 2024 15:06:57 GMT
Jimmy Dunne is a surprisingly capable RB, with the huge height benefit. He is a better CB. This season the higher calibre teams will target him with speed at the RB and we are likely to lose JCS. Reggie and the new fellow (if he signs) will both be needed.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 27, 2024 15:08:44 GMT
Never heard of either of them but I trust Marti's judgment. Yeap and how many fans had heard of Marti before he joined us. Prefer this than picking up below par and aging rejects in the UK. Bergovic gone - Past his best already and he made a few mistakes but did a job for us last season when we had our backs against the wall so good luck to him probably as a well paid bench warmer. Exactly that. I saw something a little while ago saying Begovic might be off to Newcastle. Winding his career down probably, he'll get a decent enough payday there without getting many (if any) games.
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Post by Rexpat on Jun 27, 2024 15:10:01 GMT
Also, when they decode his name, the Toffeemen will be in with a massive overpay (exhibit A: Timmy).
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 27, 2024 15:17:11 GMT
I take the points above. If Cannon is off it makes sense but if he is on a 4-year-contract it seems unlikely given he hasn't pulled up any trees here? While I think Dunne is good at right back, at centre half (in a two) I don't think he is reliable. He has a touch of the Danny Maddix about him: great bloke and great presence for 80 minutes but once a game he will commit an absolute howler and gift a good goal chance.
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Post by Rexpat on Jun 27, 2024 15:28:07 GMT
I can see the Danny Maddix comparison. However Marti seems to excel at protecting players from their own potential weaknesses.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 27, 2024 15:52:43 GMT
Dunne is a better RB than CB imo. Seems odd saying that when it only became a utility position for him last season, but true nevertheless.
'Better' in that less of a liability, to qualify.
Also, don't think he'd have scored 'Goal Of The Season' from CB
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 8:37:42 GMT
I'm not too surprised that we are looking or being linked with RB's. Dunne did a decent job but not his natural position and a good winger can rip him apart. Marti does not seem to rate Cannon too much and the name of Marti's game is to improve the team, not just sit back with what we have and say Dunne or anyone else is ok and can do a job.
Marti's reputation is he likes an attacking style but always based on playing out from a rock solid defence. If that means a couple of fan favourites have to make way so be it - unless we want to keep struggling year after year.
Of course we need more upfront - not too worried yet especially if Marti has his eyes on some European players where most contracts run to June 30th and the club cannot officially sign or announce anything before then - plus wait for a visa and work permit (thanks Brexit). Of course we could be struggling to find the right men - decent strikers are difficult to come by and competition for them pushes up transfer fees and wages. Whatever, the club are not going to announce anything until deals are done although some agents may leak a bit of truth here and there, mixed in with the usual unfounded talking up players and links clickbait
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Post by Hertfordshire Ranger on Jun 28, 2024 10:15:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2024 12:31:45 GMT
Interesting one though - even if it is only the Sun Maybe we could do a swap deal Elisor in, Smyth Kelman or Armstrong or a couple of those out. If not I would think he would fall into a price range we could afford anyway. Metz were just relegated from the French Ligue 1 (Elisor was one of their better players) and any of those 3 would be a decent fit in the French second division. Metz also seem to be keen on swaps. Last season they swapped 3 players (including Elisor) with Belgian First division team RFC Seraing who were themselves relegated but then re-instated after another club went bankrupt. Metz took in 2 players from Hull and 1 from Brum as well as letting one go to Wolves. A number of the Metz players are looking to be leaving at the moment after relegation with agents pushing for deals. The club finances are not in good shape with big debts so a deal is possible imo. Sad because Metz have a nice 26,000 ground that would suit us and are a bit of a local community club not dissimilar to us.
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Post by Hertfordshire Ranger on Jun 28, 2024 13:01:04 GMT
Interesting one though - even if it is only the Sun Maybe we could do a swap deal Elisor in, Smyth Kelman or Armstrong or a couple of those out. If not I would think he would fall into a price range we could afford anyway. Metz were just relegated from the French Ligue 1 (Elisor was one of their better players) and any of those 3 would be a decent fit in the French second division. Metz also seem to be keen on swaps. Last season they swapped 3 players (including Elisor) with Belgian First division team RFC Seraing who were themselves relegated but then re-instated after another club went bankrupt. Metz took in 2 players from Hull and 1 from Brum as well as letting one go to Wolves. A number of the Metz players are looking to be leaving at the moment after relegation with agents pushing for deals. The club finances are not in good shape with big debts so a deal is possible imo. Sad because Metz have a nice 26,000 ground that would suit us and are a bit of a local community club not dissimilar to us. Good insight! Is it your locality by chance?
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 28, 2024 14:00:29 GMT
thanks for insights Rob.
I thought he was out on loan a lot of last season? According to his Wiki page at any rate. It also shows he has had a lot of loans and never really established himself anywhere. Apart from one season a very modest scoring record. Still the current regime have a lot of credit in the bank so if this is someone they are genuinely targeting we have to trust their judgement.
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Post by spongeparr on Jun 28, 2024 15:34:07 GMT
THe RB makes sense. Cannon didn't join for a pre season (didn't kick a ball for months?) then got injured so I don't think that we have seen the best of Cannon yet. I don't think he'll be off. Seeing as we got rid of 2 or 3 RBs already this summer.
Dunne has dunne (sorry) well since being a RB but I doubt that Marti sees him as the long term solution. The Brazil kid is younger and free so fits in with our budget. Plus. he's Brazillian, and that's cool to have in your team.
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Post by James1979 on Jun 28, 2024 17:29:40 GMT
As have been said before….loving the fact we are signing people firstly who didn’t used to play for us and secondly who I’ve never heard of!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2024 8:14:21 GMT
Interesting one though - even if it is only the Sun Maybe we could do a swap deal Elisor in, Smyth Kelman or Armstrong or a couple of those out. If not I would think he would fall into a price range we could afford anyway. Metz were just relegated from the French Ligue 1 (Elisor was one of their better players) and any of those 3 would be a decent fit in the French second division. Metz also seem to be keen on swaps. Last season they swapped 3 players (including Elisor) with Belgian First division team RFC Seraing who were themselves relegated but then re-instated after another club went bankrupt. Metz took in 2 players from Hull and 1 from Brum as well as letting one go to Wolves. A number of the Metz players are looking to be leaving at the moment after relegation with agents pushing for deals. The club finances are not in good shape with big debts so a deal is possible imo. Sad because Metz have a nice 26,000 ground that would suit us and are a bit of a local community club not dissimilar to us. Good insight! Is it your locality by chance? Not exactly - just over the border but still the closest proper professional football club to me, being sandwiched between France Belgium and Germany (work that one out - easy) so I do have a little bit of insight to european football as I am sure some other posters do . Interesting different attitudes to the game in different countries until it comes to match day. Too late now but England should have had a look at the German model for club ownership where 51% has to be owned by fans and cuts out control by the mad rich "investors" like we have in the PL and Championship. Sad though that they sold out to the German wing of Sky as well. Then the French are the French, rein à dire, while the Belgians are more the poor men but a good place to maybe pick up some talent more cheaply as long as our PL clubs are not in the hunt.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 29, 2024 10:29:58 GMT
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