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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 6, 2024 11:26:32 GMT
Smyth at wing back has been tried before and was not great. Go to Dunne but if we can’t for injuries or suspensions then I’d go with Santos and then have Smyth in front to provide protection. It was better than playing either of the two newbie right backs. Happy with Dunne at right back, but our central midfield is so shite and so lightweight we need play three of them there, not two (or even, as Marti does, one in front of the back four and the other forward of them 😱). You can only do that with three at the back: Dunne Cook and JCS. Making us hard to beat is the number one priority. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 6, 2024 11:27:21 GMT
Stick Dunne there again. He did better as a makeshift RB than Santos and Ashby have done.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 6, 2024 12:32:18 GMT
Smyth can’t defend cant have him as WB
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 6, 2024 14:02:37 GMT
Smyth can’t defend cant have him as WB If we went 3 at the back (which I don't think we will), Santos and Paal are really the only options for the wing back positions. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 7, 2024 6:16:41 GMT
Stick Dunne there again. He did better as a makeshift RB than Santos and Ashby have done. Agree. They both look really poor IMO. |
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Post by hubble on Oct 7, 2024 6:58:58 GMT
Kakay always had a mistake or three in him, an error leading to a goal, no, no, don't want to go back to Osman. Fox is fit, so play him next to Cook as a left-sided centre back and move Jimmy back to RB. Job dunne.
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Post by James1979 on Oct 7, 2024 7:36:56 GMT
Kakay always had a mistake or three in him, an error leading to a goal, no, no, don't want to go back to Osman. Fox is fit, so play him next to Cook as a left-sided centre back and move Jimmy back to RB. Job dunne. He also had this tendency to switch off when marking from set pieces. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 7, 2024 7:40:32 GMT
Plus he'd bomb forward and constantly get caught out of position. No thanks.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 7, 2024 8:19:40 GMT
Jesus you know things have gone tits up when people are calling for Osman flipping Kakay to come back. Why don't we get Hamalainen, Scowen and Dykes back while we're at it?
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 7, 2024 8:29:45 GMT
Jesus you know things have gone tits up when people are calling for Osman flipping Kakay to come back. Why don't we get Hamalainen, Scowen and Dykes back while we're at it? Scowen could do a job for us now. Lol. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 7, 2024 8:37:02 GMT
Jesus you know things have gone tits up when people are calling for Osman flipping Kakay to come back. Why don't we get Hamalainen, Scowen and Dykes back while we're at it? Scowen could do a job for us now. Lol. And I'd take Dom Ball over Varane, Anderson or Madsen. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 7, 2024 8:54:46 GMT
Jesus you know things have gone tits up when people are calling for Osman flipping Kakay to come back. Why don't we get Hamalainen, Scowen and Dykes back while we're at it? Thing is Ginge, we’ve played four players at RB since Kakay and they are/have been no better. Dunne makes five and at least he mostly did a good job but he’s not the answer. We’d still be moaning about RB if Kakay was still here but we’d be no worse off. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 7, 2024 8:57:10 GMT
At least he could deliver a cross
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 7, 2024 9:01:00 GMT
And if we’re talking about Marti developing players there was surely more potential for him to work on with Kakay than anyone we’ve seen since?
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Post by West Acton on Oct 7, 2024 9:07:44 GMT
Kakay was 28 too late for development imo
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 7, 2024 10:04:50 GMT
Kakay was 28 too late for development imo But surely could have been schooled in positioning and decisions? Isn’t that coaching? He had a bit of skill and was good athlete. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 7, 2024 10:11:41 GMT
At 28 I would hope player can work that out for themselves mate.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 7, 2024 10:37:19 GMT
Fair point
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 7, 2024 10:53:35 GMT
In fairness to Kakay he never made a howler like the Danish beast did Saturday for their second. Or the three game changing ones by Varane at Sheffield Utd and Blackburn.
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Post by hubble on Oct 7, 2024 12:05:41 GMT
Reggie Cannon was better than Kakay, Santos and Ashby; it was a shame to have lost him over a legal issue, but his fault of course. The failure to find not just a replacement, but a decent RB is one of several recruitment issues. However I think we all agree Dunne has been a revelation in this position and the sooner we revert to him at RB the better.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 7, 2024 12:14:37 GMT
Imagine Dunne is first choice there when JCS is fit. Most games MC has played him there in that scenario IIRC.
Santos more of a WB
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Oct 7, 2024 13:42:48 GMT
Reggie Cannon was better than Kakay, Santos and Ashby; it was a shame to have lost him over a legal issue, but his fault of course. The failure to find not just a replacement, but a decent RB is one of several recruitment issues. However I think we all agree Dunne has been a revelation in this position and the sooner we revert to him at RB the better. Think we already had the solution in the building in Dunne. He was exposed a few times last season (against Hull springs painfully to mind) but for the most part his extra height at right back made us much, much better at set pieces where previously we were getting murdered. He is however a disaster at centre half, was shocking against Derby. Re Ashby don't see what it does for him, Newcastle or us, keeping him here - he clearly isn't good enough to be first choice (worrying enough as second choice) and sitting on our bench won't help his development. In Jan strongly hope he is sent back and off our wage bill. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 7, 2024 14:15:57 GMT
It's obvious this is a problem position for us and I hope the club have earmarked an established replacement because these experiments with unknowns and reserves just ain't working!
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Post by Bill on Oct 7, 2024 14:49:31 GMT
At 28 I would hope player can work that out for themselves mate. But knows this league and better than anything we have brought in. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Oct 8, 2024 15:04:59 GMT
Kakay was 28 too late for development imo But surely could have been schooled in positioning and decisions? Isn’t that coaching? He had a bit of skill and was good athlete. Need to understand and implement what he is told. Not sure about his potential in that regard. No disrespect to the lad, as he was a loyal servant to our club, but not seen any improvement to his game during his time here, i.e. he was no better in 2023 than he was in 2016, imo. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 8, 2024 15:51:18 GMT
I thought he was harshly judged. Not as bad as some made out. Would not be against him having remained as squad player but he was not a starter.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 8, 2024 16:37:47 GMT
His concentration defending seemed to drop at crucial times, was the main criticism of him IIRC. Good offensively.
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 8, 2024 16:39:52 GMT
I thought he was harshly judged. Not as bad as some made out. Would not be against him having remained as squad player but he was not a starter. Kakay? Agree mate, wasn't a bad squad player at all and would probably be starting right now if he was still here. |
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 8, 2024 16:41:25 GMT
Fucking weird that right back is a problem position for us by the way. Normally the easiest position to fill at any level of football.
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Post by James1979 on Oct 8, 2024 16:43:12 GMT
Fucking weird that right back is a problem position for us by the way. Normally the easiest position to fill at any level of football. Especially when we have 3 players who can play there! |
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