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Post by Shania on Oct 30, 2024 10:20:14 GMT
Why do we have so few players in the squad compared to other teams? It really shows when we have injuries.
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 30, 2024 10:39:03 GMT
Due to financial constraints, we've had a relatively weak squad for years. As a long term championship club, the only realistic way of strengthening the squad as a whole is to get promoted. Doesn't matter if you get relegated again, as despite all the talk the chute payments remain in place.
You can do very well financially via a cycle of promotions / relegations, just look at the stats over the last ten years. At some point the financial relationship between the prem and the rest will change, and the new regulatory system might help in this regard.
Fans of clubs outside of the chute cycle are constantly complaining about their weak squads. We're not alone, although the original FFP hit didn't help build anything.
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Post by Shania on Oct 30, 2024 10:52:39 GMT
Another point is that many, if not most, coaches like to work with smaller squads because of playing relationships or of strictly pedagogical reasons etc, I guess.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 30, 2024 11:02:28 GMT
Due to financial constraints, we've had a relatively weak squad for years. As a long term championship club, the only realistic way of strengthening the squad as a whole is to get promoted. Doesn't matter if you get relegated, as despite all the talk the chute payments remain in place. You can do very well financially via a cycle of promotions / relegations, just look at the stats over the last ten years. At some point the financial relationship between the prem and the rest will change, and the new regulatory system might help in this regard. Fans of outside of the chute cycle are constantly complaining about their weak squads. We're not alone, although the original FFP hit didn't help build anything. Parachute payments should end. Get relegated, face the consequences. Entering a competition with an advantage is ridiculous. If a club has been run well and can AFFORD to be better than others so be it but it shouldn’t be given an advantage for failing the previous season. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 30, 2024 11:05:51 GMT
It’s because we got 137 players in development squad
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 30, 2024 11:12:58 GMT
Due to financial constraints, we've had a relatively weak squad for years. As a long term championship club, the only realistic way of strengthening the squad as a whole is to get promoted. Doesn't matter if you get relegated, as despite all the talk the chute payments remain in place. You can do very well financially via a cycle of promotions / relegations, just look at the stats over the last ten years. At some point the financial relationship between the prem and the rest will change, and the new regulatory system might help in this regard. Fans of outside of the chute cycle are constantly complaining about their weak squads. We're not alone, although the original FFP hit didn't help build anything. Parachute payments should end. Get relegated, face the consequences. Entering a competition with an advantage is ridiculous. If a club has been run well and can AFFORD to be better than others so be it but it shouldn’t be given an advantage for failing the previous season. I agree. Why should you not only be rewarded for failure, but receive a financial advantage over your competitors too? How fucked up is that? |
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Post by MattyRangers on Oct 30, 2024 11:14:55 GMT
Due to financial constraints, we've had a relatively weak squad for years. As a long term championship club, the only realistic way of strengthening the squad as a whole is to get promoted. Doesn't matter if you get relegated, as despite all the talk the chute payments remain in place. You can do very well financially via a cycle of promotions / relegations, just look at the stats over the last ten years. At some point the financial relationship between the prem and the rest will change, and the new regulatory system might help in this regard. Fans of outside of the chute cycle are constantly complaining about their weak squads. We're not alone, although the original FFP hit didn't help build anything. Parachute payments should end. Get relegated, face the consequences. Entering a competition with an advantage is ridiculous. If a club has been run well and can AFFORD to be better than others so be it but it shouldn’t be given an advantage for failing the previous season. 100% couldn't agree more. The fiscal advantage the 3 teams dropping down have over the rest is outrageous. Can't recall the figures now but remember seeing a graphic showing leicester's budget last year v everybody else and it was insane. Will almost be a revolving door soon of the same batch of sides going up to the Prem & coming back down repeatedly. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 30, 2024 11:16:18 GMT
Parachute payments should end. Get relegated, face the consequences. Entering a competition with an advantage is ridiculous. If a club has been run well and can AFFORD to be better than others so be it but it shouldn’t be given an advantage for failing the previous season. 100% couldn't agree more. The fiscal advantage the 3 teams dropping down have over the rest is outrageous. Can't recall the figures now but remember seeing a graphic showing leicester's budget last year v everybody else and it was insane. Will almost be a revolving door soon of the same batch of sides going up to the Prem & coming back down repeatedly. top 6 champs is nigh on same year in out |
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Post by The General on Oct 30, 2024 14:00:14 GMT
Had the payments stopped when we were
relegated we would now not exist though
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Oct 30, 2024 15:35:26 GMT
Issue is that if a promoted club knows it won't receive parachute payments if it goes down it probably won't even try to compete on transfers and salaries with other prem clubs so makes it all but impossible to stay up.
The promoted three will always just go straight back down.
So then becomes impossible for the next palace or Brentford to establish themselves.
I get the complaint about what it does to the championship, but if you do away with it then the prem league becomes even more unfair.
Its a total mess. but no consequence fee solution.
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Post by Shania on Oct 30, 2024 15:41:51 GMT
It’s because we got 137 players in development squad That was close to my point, gtleighsr3. Two or three of them must be good enough for our team right now. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 30, 2024 15:51:23 GMT
It’s because we got 137 players in development squad That was close to my point, gtleighsr3. Two or three of them must be good enough for our team right now. thereis so many of them they forgot who’s here |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 30, 2024 16:17:16 GMT
Issue is that if a promoted club knows it won't receive parachute payments if it goes down it probably won't even try to compete on transfers and salaries with other prem clubs so makes it all but impossible to stay up. The promoted three will always just go straight back down. So then becomes impossible for the next palace or Brentford to establish themselves. I get the complaint about what it does to the championship, but if you do away with it then the prem league becomes even more unfair. Its a total mess. but no consequence fee solution. This if they did that next complaint is what’s point of going up it’s not fair etc Having said that there has to be a better way of doing it perhaps sides coming down can only replace players which are sold so one in one out or things like that. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 30, 2024 17:53:21 GMT
The prize is promotion to the Premier and all the money it brings in, but where’s the accountability if you, as a player, earn the same when you are relegated?
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Post by Corbray on Oct 30, 2024 19:00:36 GMT
Issue is that if a promoted club knows it won't receive parachute payments if it goes down it probably won't even try to compete on transfers and salaries with other prem clubs so makes it all but impossible to stay up. The promoted three will always just go straight back down. So then becomes impossible for the next palace or Brentford to establish themselves. I get the complaint about what it does to the championship, but if you do away with it then the prem league becomes even more unfair. Its a total mess. but no consequence fee solution. This if they did that next complaint is what’s point of going up it’s not fair etc Having said that there has to be a better way of doing it perhaps sides coming down can only replace players which are sold so one in one out or things like that. it's a difficult conundrum tbh and many clubs would probably be against parachute payments being stopped. argument is there though that promoted clubs get such a huge amount upon promotion that they should still be frugal and have forsight with their signings. ipswich for example spent the best part of £100m on new signings. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 30, 2024 19:25:51 GMT
Perhaps it’s time for prem to shut up shop and and part ways.
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 31, 2024 17:15:44 GMT
Due to financial constraints, we've had a relatively weak squad for years. As a long term championship club, the only realistic way of strengthening the squad as a whole is to get promoted. Doesn't matter if you get relegated, as despite all the talk the chute payments remain in place. You can do very well financially via a cycle of promotions / relegations, just look at the stats over the last ten years. At some point the financial relationship between the prem and the rest will change, and the new regulatory system might help in this regard. Fans of outside of the chute cycle are constantly complaining about their weak squads. We're not alone, although the original FFP hit didn't help build anything. Parachute payments should end. Get relegated, face the consequences. Entering a competition with an advantage is ridiculous. If a club has been run well and can AFFORD to be better than others so be it but it shouldn’t be given an advantage for failing the previous season. Exactly. The argument I've heard defending PP is that they've spent more on transfers and contracts to survive in the top league and if they go down it's unaffordable. Sorry but tough titty. You get near on £250,000,000 just going up. If you're not good enough to stay up and you've given out massive fees and contracts then you need to suck it up. |
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