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Post by alanwycombe on May 18, 2023 7:28:29 GMT
Boro’ and Coventry, even Luton, show what a decent manager can achieve. Two were looking more like relegation candidates and Luton could have bombed after losing Nathan Jones.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 18, 2023 8:09:49 GMT
We 100% got to be starting next season as 1 of weakest poorest sides, in fact I’d say we be in bottom 4 of. Personally think we will drop and end up like a Orient perpetual stuck in doldrums
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Post by 1qprdk on May 18, 2023 9:25:55 GMT
We 100% got to be starting next season as 1 of weakest poorest sides, in fact I’d say we be in bottom 4 of. Personally think we will drop and end up like a Orient perpetual stuck in doldrums If it means we get rid of the clueless clowns, because they lose interest, it may well be worth it. |
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Post by alanwycombe on May 18, 2023 10:01:09 GMT
The Coventry Luton game really does highlight how badly run we are. We’re not making unrealistic comparisons. They’ve had their share of adversity - shit/no ground, small gates, points deductions etc. - yet have risen above by being organised and professional, which we are far from being. If this doesn’t strike a chord with our owners we really are in trouble. Hoos, Les, his mates and a questionable medical/fitness team and we’ll just press ‘repeat’. We don’t work and the owners have had long enough to see that.
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Post by spongeparr on May 18, 2023 12:17:33 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong, but none of Luton, Boro, Coventry and Sunderland received parachute payments. Another line that Hoos has used before.
Makes it harder, of course. But not impossible.
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Post by West Acton on May 18, 2023 12:32:48 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong, but none of Luton, Boro, Coventry and Sunderland received parachute payments. Another line that Hoos has used before. Makes it harder, of course. But not impossible. not sure about that. Aside from Luton all those sides were relegated when parachute payments were a thing. Interestingly after relegation from prem Sunderland and Coventry were relegated again something even we never managed 🤣😂 |
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Post by Corbray on May 18, 2023 12:55:16 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong, but none of Luton, Boro, Coventry and Sunderland received parachute payments. Another line that Hoos has used before. Makes it harder, of course. But not impossible. add brentford and millwall to that list too. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 18, 2023 15:17:39 GMT
This is what makes it doubly sickening. In previous years think its fair to say the clubs who have gone up have been big, big spenders (Fulham obviously, Bournemouth went out and bought virtually a new team in the Jan transfer window before they went up) and Brentford were able to spend eg 5m to buy Toney because they had for several years developed and sold players.
But this year the obvious teams like Norwich and Watford imploded so it left the field wide open. Personally think this season was a bit of an exception as any club with parachute payments is at a massive advantage generally. But its really a "what if" question if we had tied the Eel in golden handcuffs after the Wolves offer with some massive bonus offer in return for promotion, could we have done it? Maybe the core of the team was always too weak and would have been found it, which might have been a factor in the Eel quitting while he was ahead. But I can't help thinking that the Championship will not be as wide open for years. It wasn't that the likes of Luton, Coventry, Millwall, Sunderland etc were world beaters, they just went about doing the basics well.
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Post by spongeparr on May 18, 2023 16:08:47 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong, but none of Luton, Boro, Coventry and Sunderland received parachute payments. Another line that Hoos has used before. Makes it harder, of course. But not impossible. not sure about that. Aside from Luton all those sides were relegated when parachute payments were a thing. Interestingly after relegation from prem Sunderland and Coventry were relegated again something even we never managed 🤣😂 I mean in receipt of them now, not that they haven't ever received them. WBA no longer receive parachute payments and their fans don't even know who owns them. Be interesting to see who they sell in a bid to balance the books. |
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Post by West Acton on May 18, 2023 16:59:05 GMT
Baggies apparently in shit. On tram after away game got chatting a few and they think they are going be fucked close season.
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Post by James1979 on May 18, 2023 20:35:24 GMT
Kind of championship news……cracking playoff game. How much is that Edwards worth do you reckon? Funny saying that when his team is 3-0 down but outstanding defender
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Post by acricketer on May 18, 2023 21:00:23 GMT
Unbelievable 4-0
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Post by coneysboots on May 19, 2023 12:54:54 GMT
Shades of Partizan Belgrade  |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 19, 2023 12:57:59 GMT
Shades of Partizan Belgrade accept we was 6-2 up in first leg away at Highbury 😀 |
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Post by coneysboots on May 19, 2023 13:53:50 GMT
What a night that was
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 19, 2023 14:32:44 GMT
Off with arsenal, off with the yugos in side seats |
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Post by West Acton on May 19, 2023 16:35:44 GMT
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 19, 2023 17:30:32 GMT
Wasps got to play lowest rung on rugby pyramid for similar
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Post by West Acton on May 25, 2023 12:20:11 GMT
Hall and Lumley jogged on by Middlesbrough
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Post by West Acton on May 25, 2023 19:46:49 GMT
Looks like Sheff Wednesday going beat our record as team that’s taken most fans to Wembley. They looking at 44k
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Post by alanwycombe on May 26, 2023 21:32:55 GMT
Come on Coventry. Couldn’t stomach Luton £170m richer.
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Post by acricketer on May 26, 2023 23:29:02 GMT
We are heading to the National League. We are clueless.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 27, 2023 5:34:10 GMT
Interesting piece on BBC website ‘hard luck story final’ to compare and contrast with our incompetent ownership and management. I still find it hard to get my head around Luton being non league when Les became DOF.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 27, 2023 6:53:05 GMT
Them tramps deserve to go up without playoffs. Amazing form this season. But fuck do I want dullentry to win though
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Post by 1qprdk on May 27, 2023 6:54:54 GMT
Interesting piece on BBC website ‘hard luck story final’ to compare and contrast with our incompetent ownership and management. I still find it hard to get my head around Luton being non league when Les became DOF. Embarrassing. Hard to stomach, but well done to whoever was/is in charge there. |
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Post by West Acton on May 27, 2023 7:49:22 GMT
Them tramps deserve to go up without playoffs. Amazing form this season. But fuck do I want dullentry to win though agree would piss me off if they do it but they have had great season and finished third. I if I was putting bet on I would probably back them. |
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Post by alanwycombe on May 27, 2023 8:18:10 GMT
I’d like Coventry to do it for Robins as much as anything. They were bottom when we were top and were playing catch up with teams with points on the board because of their pitch. Pressure on him must have been enormous.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 27, 2023 9:03:37 GMT
Interesting piece on BBC website ‘hard luck story final’ to compare and contrast with our incompetent ownership and management. I still find it hard to get my head around Luton being non league when Les became DOF. It’s true and certainly not defending Les but for balance we should keep in mind that for every team on the up plenty more have been on the slide |
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Post by hal9thou on May 27, 2023 11:28:34 GMT
Interesting piece on BBC website ‘hard luck story final’ to compare and contrast with our incompetent ownership and management. I still find it hard to get my head around Luton being non league when Les became DOF. It’s true and certainly not defending Les but for balance we should keep in mind that for every team on the up plenty more have been on the slide But relatively few with as wealthy owners...... there are simply no excuses for the utter prolapse of a club we've become. If Les had been at any other club in the top two tiers he'd have been gone years ago. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 27, 2023 11:42:09 GMT
It’s true and certainly not defending Les but for balance we should keep in mind that for every team on the up plenty more have been on the slide But relatively few with as wealthy owners...... there are simply no excuses for the utter prolapse of a club we've become. If Les had been at any other club in the top two tiers he'd have been gone years ago. Agree about Les but was just making the point that what Luton has achieved is truly exceptional. Plenty of clubs bigger than us have done even worse. We have just stagnated really - probably about where we were prior to MW’s arrival, arguably a bit more fucked due to the FFP threat. Re rich owners there are several in the Champ - not sure ours are THAT wealthy as don’t count the Mittel money as not relevant. Plus with FFP we couldn’t even spend it even if the owners wanted to. |
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