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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 18:05:19 GMT
Dave Mac reporting that there is an offer for Luongo coming which we are likely to accept!
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 24, 2019 18:07:25 GMT
£2.00 knowing bungle
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 24, 2019 18:09:50 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 18:15:32 GMT
He's actually had a bit more to say about it on his Twitter in the last few minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 18:20:22 GMT
Where will the sales end and how do the people in charge look to replace these players.
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 18:30:10 GMT
Where will the sales end and how do the people in charge look to replace these players. I'd hazard a guess the sales will end once we've raised about 5m quid. The reason I say this is that I've been told (by someone reasonably close to the club) that this is the figure we are short in terms of satisfying FFP next season. For sure Warburton wouldn't want to sell either of Freeman or Luongo. At the same time, Luongo won't being signing a new deal given our financial restrictions these days and we can't afford to let him go for free. I'd be surprised if Matt Smith and Luongo (both on the last year of their deals) will raise enough, so I think Freeman is bound to go too. Hopefully Freeman raises a decent amount though and perhaps Warburton might actually be given some money to spend!
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 24, 2019 18:32:19 GMT
Not that bothered if Luongo goes, so long as we get a decent price.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 24, 2019 18:33:30 GMT
Just seen this (there is no link, it was copy and pasted onto a facebook chat)
Rangers believe there is little prospect of him signing a new deal given that he would have to accept a pay cut.
They will therefore listen to offers for the Australia midfielder, who has made 145 league appearances since being signed from Swindon Town in 2015.
Mark Warburton rates him highly and was interested in signing him while Nottingham Forest manager.
But the financial realities facing Rangers mean they are not in a position to match Luongo’s current wages.
And with a number of clubs indicating they are interested in signing him, there is now every expectation that he will be on the move.
Rangers also expect to offload Matt Smith despite turning down an initial offer from Millwall, who remain keen on the striker, while Hull City want out-of-favour keeper Matt Ingram.
Meanwhile, R’s boss Warburton is aiming to seal the signing of at least two Premier League youngsters on loan.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 24, 2019 18:34:16 GMT
So he's not likely to accept a new contract with a pay cut, so we're cashing in now while we can still get money for him. I don't see anything wrong with that at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 19:02:42 GMT
Just how much is someone signed from swindon on if he'd need to take a paycut in order to stay 🤔
Seems we was still handing out silly deals at that point.
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Post by Brian Wilson on Jun 24, 2019 19:20:59 GMT
Good player Luongo but not consistent enough. Happy to see him go if it meant Freeman stayed. Hope we're not signing that Holt fella.
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Post by Corbray on Jun 24, 2019 20:12:44 GMT
Lower paid players usually means lesser quality and we sailed closed to the wind these past two seasons. its worked well for brentford and is the model that we need to follow. i won't lie and say that i'm pleased that our best players are all leaving but its where we are right now sadly and all we can do is support the team and hope that we come out good in the long run. its not been great so far but there's been some good signs over the past few years. nearly all of our signings over the past 2-3 seasons have done well for us and we have some great looking youngsters too. when one of our players reaches his peak like luongo and freeman they'll understandably want to move up the ladder and we sign another unknown and rinse and repeat
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Post by davieqpr on Jun 24, 2019 21:53:35 GMT
Lower paid players usually means lesser quality and we sailed closed to the wind these past two seasons. I would say that Wallace and Barbet are better players than Bidwell and Lynch. People forget that early in the season Luongo was dire for us and only seem to turn up for the second half of the season. Sell him now while we can still get some money. There are cheaper options, though not necessarily better, but more consistent.
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Post by Shania on Jun 24, 2019 22:57:26 GMT
Freeman and Luongo are both too inconsistent for my liking. BUT they both need to be replaced adequately.
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Post by 1qprdk on Jun 24, 2019 23:21:29 GMT
Lower paid players usually means lesser quality and we sailed closed to the wind these past two seasons. I would say that Wallace and Barbet are better players than Bidwell and Lynch. People forget that early in the season Luongo was dire for us and only seem to turn up for the second half of the season. Sell him now while we can still get some money. There are cheaper options, though not necessarily better, but more consistent. Last third. Agree with the rest.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jun 25, 2019 11:02:59 GMT
Luongo is not consistent enough to waste wages on. Sell him and get someone else in who can actually go box to box.
As for getting in "lesser players", if they can fit into the model of how we are going to play then that is not a problem at all. For all anyone knows, Wallace could be the new Clint Hill.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 27, 2019 8:50:31 GMT
nottingham Forest are again said to be weighing up a move for QPR midfielder Massimo Luongo. The Australian has been linked with the Reds before, when Mark Warburton was manager at the City Ground. And London Football News report that he is on their radar again, with Championship rivals Leeds United also interested. www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/transfer-news/nottingham-forest-said-weighing-up-3022005Gotta be worth £2mil surely. It will be another loss on our outlay for him though.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 27, 2019 9:01:15 GMT
How much did we pay for him hits. I think we have got our monies worth out of him
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jun 27, 2019 9:06:46 GMT
If we can get anyone to offer £3m or above, I'd snap that clubs hand off.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 27, 2019 9:09:43 GMT
How much did we pay for him hits. I think we have got our monies worth out of him I could be wrong but didn't we sign both him and gladwin in one deal with swindon? i think it was a total of 3.5mil
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 27, 2019 9:17:43 GMT
How much did we pay for him hits. I think we have got our monies worth out of him I could be wrong but didn't we sign both him and gladwin in one deal with swindon? i think it was a total of 3.5mil So I think we did something a bit sneaky with this transfer. Luongo had a big sell on due to Spurs. As such I believe we loaded up the bulk of the transfer fee on Gladwin, whom I think we paid 3.5m for. Then I believe we paid a small nominal fee for Luongo, in order to avoid giving too much money to Spurs. All said and done though, in the current transfer market with 1 year left on his deal, Luongo won't fetch a lot I suspect!
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 27, 2019 17:02:17 GMT
our Aof is trying to drum up some offers not only for luongo but the whole squad.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 27, 2019 17:26:57 GMT
Les bashing really boring now
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 27, 2019 17:29:21 GMT
Blimey, that's an unbelievable quote. It's comments like this does him no favours at all and just confirms all the doubts about his ability for the role. Even if it's true, why publicise it FFS.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 27, 2019 17:36:56 GMT
Could not disagree more Stan.
We have a thread criticising club for possibly accepting 3mil for a player because no one else is interested. We have a player who could go who were saying to others there’s interest so get your bids in so could be effort start bidding war.
We’re at that stage where he can’t do right for doing wrong. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that comment unless people are looking for something to be wrong
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 27, 2019 17:39:54 GMT
Could not disagree more Stan. We have a thread criticising club for possibly accepting 3mil for a player because no one else is interested. We have a player who could go who were saying to others there’s interest so get your bids in so could be effort start bidding war. We’re at that stage where he can’t do right for doing wrong. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that comment unless people are looking for something to be wrong I totally agree
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 27, 2019 17:54:43 GMT
My point is even if what he's saying is true, why publicise it to all and sundry. I see no possible gain in doing that, except to tell everyone we're desperate which will only drive down our players' prices. It just demonstrates lack of business acumen.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 27, 2019 18:01:28 GMT
Unless I’ve missed something it’s common knowledge we’re skint, it’s common knowledge we need to sell, it’s common knowledge we’re struggling with FFP. TF, Les, Ollie, McLaren and Warburton are all on the record saying we need to sell players and our club model has changed from buying to selling. He’s not let the cat out the bag he’s saying what’s already in public domain. Warburton basically said same thing last week, why is he not getting criticised?? Again what’s he said that’s not already known? Nothing new here other then people looking for an angle
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 27, 2019 18:10:39 GMT
TF, Les, Ollie, McLaren and Warburton are all on the record saying we need to sell players and our club model has changed from buying to selling. He’s not let the cat out the bag he’s saying what’s already in public domain. I disagree. No one has said it as blatantly and directly as he's just done. Again, my point is there's absolutely no possible advantage in being so explicit about it and simply waves a big flag to other clubs. It's a naive and unhelpful comment.
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Post by BrightonR on Jun 27, 2019 18:28:53 GMT
I would think virtually every player at every club would be sold IF the price were right.
Just imagine if we sold him at a higher than anticipated price and were therefore able to keep Freeman.
Personally, going to wait until 10 games in before even attempting to judge the success or failure of our ins and outs.
Quietly confident, but then again I usually am and I’m usually wrong. 😂
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