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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 27, 2019 18:32:14 GMT
if he is so worried about ffp, how about we save some wages by getting rid of him.
stupid people giving away the naming of the stadium, then sit behind a desk earning upto 1mil per year and telling us the club needs to sell players because of ffp.
farking hypocrites
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Post by West Acton on Jun 27, 2019 19:46:45 GMT
TF, Les, Ollie, McLaren and Warburton are all on the record saying we need to sell players and our club model has changed from buying to selling. He’s not let the cat out the bag he’s saying what’s already in public domain. I disagree. No one has said it as blatantly and directly as he's just done. Again, my point is there's absolutely no possible advantage in being so explicit about it and simply waves a big flag to other clubs. It's a naive and unhelpful comment. They have Stan its been said over and over. It’s been debated on social media amongst fans. Again nothing new here Criticise the club, criticise Les, criticise TF not a problem but for crying out loud lets criticise for something they have done rather then clutching at straws |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 19:56:31 GMT
Surely if we are selling him we should be making it harder for the buying club not easier by confirming what they make be thinking about our finances.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 27, 2019 19:58:15 GMT
They have Stan its been said over and over. It’s been debated on social media amongst fans. Again nothing new here Criticise the club, criticise Les, criticise TF not a problem but for crying out loud lets criticise for something they have done rather then clutching at straws Westy, I avoid social media like the plague as most of it is farking toxic. I'm only going by what comes directly from the club. You seem to have a different impression of things and I respect that mate. |
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Post by West Acton on Jun 27, 2019 20:21:59 GMT
Every club knows exactly what position every other club is it come on guys the accounts are published and made public
We know Bolton are screwed, Villa would have been screwed, Birmingham are screwed, Wednesday are struggling, Norwich were in good shape as are Brentford etc
It’s not a secret. I’m amazed people are genuinely taken aback by this other then having an agenda.
Tarbie has been telling us for a season the club has to sell to survive it’s out there, it’s been out there for two seasons no secret has been leaked
I will leave it alone though and let people believe that Mass will now be sold for less then his worth because of a quote in a paper 🙄
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 27, 2019 20:46:16 GMT
Ain't just me saying it Westy. Have a look at what the likes of Dave Mac, Finney etc. are saying. If these guys know we need to sell to meet our FFP requirements, you can be 100% sure every agent and chairman in the country knows it too!
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 28, 2019 7:45:17 GMT
Ain't just me saying it Westy. Have a look at what the likes of Dave Mac, Finney etc. are saying. If these guys know we need to sell to meet our FFP requirements, you can be 100% sure every agent and chairman in the country knows it too! They already knew that. Early last season Lee Hoos told Dave Thomas and myself after a game just which teams were what shape wrt FFP. It appears that that there are far too many people who spend their time looking to find fault or blame in a weak attempt to demonstrate knowledge of what it takes to run a football club. QPR accounts are available every season for all to see and this includes the people running all the other football clubs. At times it is very easy to understand why our fans deserve the sobriquet Drama Queens Park Rangers. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 28, 2019 8:15:56 GMT
Ain't just me saying it Westy. Have a look at what the likes of Dave Mac, Finney etc. are saying. If these guys know we need to sell to meet our FFP requirements, you can be 100% sure every agent and chairman in the country knows it too! They already knew that. Early last season Lee Hoos told Dave Thomas and myself after a game just which teams were what shape wrt FFP. It appears that that there are far too many people who spend their time looking to find fault or blame in a weak attempt to demonstrate knowledge of what it takes to run a football club. QPR accounts are available every season for all to see and this includes the people running all the other football clubs. At times it is very easy to understand why our fans deserve the sobriquet Drama Queens Park Rangers. It's counter productive as well mate. We all know the club follow social media and in the past TF has been guilty of paying too much attention to fans opinions. It's probably the reason we ended up selling Austin for peanuts towards the end of his deal. A well run club would have got shot of him the summer before when a sensible offer was made for him by Leicester. But of course the fans were up in arms as we valued him higher than the money that was on the table and the deal never happened. |
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 29, 2019 8:42:55 GMT
They already knew that. Early last season Lee Hoos told Dave Thomas and myself after a game just which teams were what shape wrt FFP. It appears that that there are far too many people who spend their time looking to find fault or blame in a weak attempt to demonstrate knowledge of what it takes to run a football club. QPR accounts are available every season for all to see and this includes the people running all the other football clubs. At times it is very easy to understand why our fans deserve the sobriquet Drama Queens Park Rangers. It's counter productive as well mate. We all know the club follow social media and in the past TF has been guilty of paying too much attention to fans opinions. It's probably the reason we ended up selling Austin for peanuts towards the end of his deal. A well run club would have got shot of him the summer before when a sensible offer was made for him by Leicester. But of course the fans were up in arms as we valued him higher than the money that was on the table and the deal never happened. Austin was more down to a gamble on keeping him and using his goals over selling him before he ran his contract down. Charlie was working on a move behind the scenes and the south coast suited him best as he had either a soccer scholl or a horse stabled there IIRC. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 29, 2019 10:24:09 GMT
It's counter productive as well mate. We all know the club follow social media and in the past TF has been guilty of paying too much attention to fans opinions. It's probably the reason we ended up selling Austin for peanuts towards the end of his deal. A well run club would have got shot of him the summer before when a sensible offer was made for him by Leicester. But of course the fans were up in arms as we valued him higher than the money that was on the table and the deal never happened. Austin was more down to a gamble on keeping him and using his goals over selling him before he ran his contract down. Charlie was working on a move behind the scenes and the south coast suited him best as he had either a soccer scholl or a horse stabled there IIRC. Fair enough. But my point remains. Fans placing unrealistic expectations on what our players are worth is a huge problem. The club can't win. We sell for the best offer on the table and the board get chastised, accused of having our pants pulled down, etc. Hold out for more, don't get it and 6-12 months later the player moves for buttons or on a free transfer. |
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Post by West Acton on Jun 29, 2019 10:48:47 GMT
Great point Tarbs.
But the board need be strong and take no notice of fans feelings and make best decision for the club
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 30, 2019 10:55:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 10:57:49 GMT
I like luongo but I don't see him as premier league quality.
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Post by West Acton on Jun 30, 2019 11:04:23 GMT
Can't make my mind up about Mass. I like him and don’t jump on him like others have but at same time can’t make my mind up as to how Important he is too us.
Some times he’s great other times he’s passenger. Very much in same bracket as Freeman
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Post by acricketer on Jun 30, 2019 11:13:36 GMT
Got to admit I wouldn't be devastated if he went. How many MOMs over the years?
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Post by Corbray on Jun 30, 2019 11:15:57 GMT
think its the right time to sell mass. he's came as far as he will with us and can be a liability at times but imo is still a good player at this level. now's the time to sell him and see if we can improve.
luke amos and matthew smith sound like good replacements for him
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 30, 2019 12:19:02 GMT
I like luongo but I don't see him as premier league quality. That's how I feel about Gareth Barry or Jordan Henderson but with the right players around them... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 12:33:33 GMT
I like luongo but I don't see him as premier league quality. That's how I feel about Gareth Barry or Jordan Henderson but with the right players around them... He's not in the same ballpark as those two in anyway whatsoever 👍 |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jul 1, 2019 9:15:38 GMT
Would probably be alright in the PL if he's not asked to make a forward pass or shoot.
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Post by West Acton on Jul 6, 2019 13:04:30 GMT
Left out squad for Austria
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 6, 2019 13:11:38 GMT
No surprises there Westy.
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Post by BrightonR on Jul 6, 2019 13:16:15 GMT
Left out squad for Austria If only he’d been left out of some for Australia. 😂 |
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Post by Greg1882 on Jul 6, 2019 13:28:17 GMT
Sure fire sign that he’s off. Ah well get some money and forget about him. To be honest he never really bowled me over and is far too inconsistent. Best of luck all the same
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Post by Corbray on Jul 6, 2019 13:52:40 GMT
i'm glad that the club are being transparent in regards to mass
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 6, 2019 14:34:14 GMT
Nasser will be distraught, but too often he flattered to deceive is the harsh truth.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 6, 2019 15:16:18 GMT
Nasser will be distraught, but too often he flattered to deceive is the harsh truth. We're definitely a better team when he's in the side mate. But he hasn't kicked on as much as I'd expected. He'll do a job for a half decent Championship side I'm sure, but doubt he'll ever be much more than that! |
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Post by The General on Jul 6, 2019 16:18:59 GMT
What happened to Nasser the stat man ?
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 6, 2019 16:53:42 GMT
I think he went on to university. Majored in Statistics at a guess :-)
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 8, 2019 16:22:33 GMT
Leeds United have withdrawn from the race to sign Massimo Luongo according to the London Football News. Both Leeds and Nottingham Forest have been monitoring the Queens Park Rangers midfielder but it now appears the Whites have cooled their interest in him. The Australian is contracted to the London club for a further year but has been attracting interest from clubs in the upper echelons of the Championship this summer. the72.co.uk/137991/leeds-united-withdraw-from-the-race-for-international-midfielder/ |
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Post by acricketer on Aug 7, 2019 23:49:32 GMT
Gone. Not fussed tbh. Kind of tells me he was OK but won't be a great loss. Did a job when he was not jetlagged but 'journeyman' springs to mind when thinking about him. Paid too much for his contribution but thats football.
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