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Post by hubble on Jul 23, 2019 15:37:50 GMT
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Post by Shania on Jul 23, 2019 20:39:03 GMT
CB wise I think we are pretty solid. Especially if Hall can stay fir for the season and there is no reason why he shouldn't. I personally think Leinster might be sold and that's why we are being linked with other CB's. In general the way we have conducted business has been pretty bizarre as the OP states. However, imo the bizarre bit is more aimed at the prices we are demanding for player as I personally feel we are panic selling and not achieving the best fee's possible.I think we could of achieved more for Freeman and Smith respectfully and we should be achieving more for Furlong. What has impressed me is the shrewd useage of the loan market and signings like Amos and Smith should not be underestimated. Both lads are very talented, play good football and will help us compete next season. Add to the mix someone like Cameron we have some good options in the centre of the park. Although the Furlong sale doesn't make sense to me financially, if we do land Sterling then the club again have got a bit of coup as that boy is very talented. The lad Matterson has a lot of potential as well. If we can add 2 or 3 decent strikers then we might surprise a few teams. Kelly Sterling Hall Barbet manning Amos Smith BOS Eze Judge Nketiah That's not a bad championship team imo. Full of energy and youth and talent, surrounded hopefully by the likes of Cameron, Scowen, Wallace and Rangel and other options like chair and Shopido ect who can come on and effect the game. The good news about the squad is there could be cases for other players to start ie Cameron along one of the young lads ect. I am aware that Nkeitah and Judge are not part of the team but if we were able to sign players of that ilk it would make us pretty competitive imo? My opinion is that our players (sadly) are not rated very highly by other clubs. That`s the real problem. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Jul 23, 2019 20:55:37 GMT
Most of the fans think they're shit most of the time too, but if we dare sell them it's another story.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 24, 2019 15:56:12 GMT
You know the thought that the BFG might be off had crossed my mind too Maids. The manager seems to want to play out from the back and as such, Hall appears to be ahead of him in the pecking order. I also heard this week that Leistner is actually one of our highest earners. If there is decent money on the table for him, I could understand if the club wanted to cash in. There's been rumours for a while that although he likes playing at QPR his family haven't settled in London. I personally think if we were to get a decent bid we would sell and can see us taking someone like Worral on loan with a view to a permanent or the lad from Rotherham we are linked with and I know nothing about. Heard a rumour yesterday that the BFG and Warburton haven't exactly warmed to each other. I guess we'll see in the coming days when they announce the captain for the coming season! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 15:59:01 GMT
There's been rumours for a while that although he likes playing at QPR his family haven't settled in London. I personally think if we were to get a decent bid we would sell and can see us taking someone like Worral on loan with a view to a permanent or the lad from Rotherham we are linked with and I know nothing about. Heard a rumour yesterday that the BFG and Warburton haven't exactly warmed to each other. I guess we'll see in the coming days when they announce the captain for the coming season! Has he started a game yet? |
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 24, 2019 16:05:34 GMT
Heard a rumour yesterday that the BFG and Warburton haven't exactly warmed to each other. I guess we'll see in the coming days when they announce the captain for the coming season! Has he started a game yet? Been on the bench so far in pre-season I think mate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 16:23:42 GMT
Has he started a game yet? Been on the bench so far in pre-season I think mate. Not encouraging signs then as you'd expect him to start at least one game so far. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 24, 2019 16:33:15 GMT
Been on the bench so far in pre-season I think mate. Not encouraging signs then as you'd expect him to start at least one game so far. If we need to shift a few to balance the books and/or sign attackers he'd be near the top of my list mate. Warburton likes to play out from the back. We saw how the BFG faired with that last season against West Brom! |
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Jul 25, 2019 8:36:58 GMT
If we do shift Leinster out we will need another replacement imo. Materson is highly rated but untested.
Worral would be a good option if there are any truth in those rumours. Still gutted about the lad Sterling as he was an ideal replacement for Furlong. Not sure what our rb options are now with just rangel left to fill that spot.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 25, 2019 8:39:43 GMT
If we do shift Leinster out we will need another replacement imo. Materson is highly rated but untested. Worral would be a good option if there are any truth in those rumours. Still gutted about the lad Sterling as he was an ideal replacement for Furlong. Not sure what our rb options are now with just rangel left to fill that spot. Kakay must be in Warbs plans as backup for Rangel |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 25, 2019 8:48:53 GMT
If we do shift Leinster out we will need another replacement imo. Materson is highly rated but untested. Worral would be a good option if there are any truth in those rumours. Still gutted about the lad Sterling as he was an ideal replacement for Furlong. Not sure what our rb options are now with just rangel left to fill that spot. Kakay must be in Warbs plans as backup for Rangel he has had no presason matches ginge. didnt warbs make furlong captain against oxford last saturday, then he was sold on tuesday, think that sale was done above his head. rrd |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 25, 2019 8:56:48 GMT
If Leister goes makes sale of Furlong even more bizarre as he would have been natural younger replacement
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Post by hubble on Jul 25, 2019 9:15:39 GMT
If we do shift Leinster out we will need another replacement imo. Materson is highly rated but untested. Worral would be a good option if there are any truth in those rumours. Still gutted about the lad Sterling as he was an ideal replacement for Furlong. Not sure what our rb options are now with just rangel left to fill that spot. Kakay must be in Warbs plans as backup for Rangel Yes, IIRC Kakay featured in the early McClaren games and then was binned (possibly after that traumatic 7-1 v WBA). But I always thought he was a decent player who would improve. |
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Jul 25, 2019 9:21:18 GMT
Kakay must be in Warbs plans as backup for Rangel he has had no presason matches ginge. didnt warbs make furlong captain against oxford last saturday, then he was sold on tuesday, think that sale was done above his head. rrd I think the sale was made based on sterling coming in. Rumour is we have been gazumped by other teams. Shouldn't of sold furlong until we had the replacement confirmed. Again bad business dealings by the club imo. |
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Post by Corbray on Jul 25, 2019 10:11:17 GMT
Kakay must be in Warbs plans as backup for Rangel Yes, IIRC Kakay featured in the early McClaren games and then was binned (possibly after that traumatic 7-1 v WBA). But I always thought he was a decent player who would improve. thought kakay was better going forward than furlong was last season but i can't see him ever being good enough for this level unfortunately. he hasn't even featured in preseason i think anyway so i suspect we plan on loaning him out or selling him |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 8, 2019 17:57:35 GMT
Window has shut now. So final thoughts. Good,bad or mediocre window???
I’m personally happy and looking forward to seeing how everyone evolves
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Post by 1qprdk on Aug 8, 2019 17:58:50 GMT
Window has shut now. So final thoughts. Good,bad or mediocre window??? I’m personally happy and looking forward to seeing how everyone evolves Agreed, good window IMO. |
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Post by Corbray on Aug 8, 2019 18:02:40 GMT
very good window imo and one we needed. we haven't signed any world beaters but we've signed good team players and strenghthened every area. some of our signings will have an excellent season imo!
some of them have been upgrades too, barbet>lynch amos>luongo kane>furlong hugill>smith. in fact the only player that has left that i could see getting into this side is freeman. pavel and luongo would struggle to fit in imo. excellent window!!!
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Post by hubble on Aug 8, 2019 18:16:25 GMT
Plenty of people having to eat their words. I admit I was starting to panic at one point. Now we know that.... we know nothing! Brilliant window given the circumstances.
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 8, 2019 18:21:09 GMT
Plenty of people having to eat their words. I admit I was starting to panic at one point. Now we know that.... we know nothing! Brilliant window given the circumstances. Happy to say I'm not one of the ones eating my words mate! 🙂 Really solid window, and a squad without too many gaps! Polar opposite to last summers shambles! |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 8, 2019 18:57:43 GMT
McKenna would have been nice. Warbs clearly wanted him as the final piece in the jigsaw. But it wasn't to be and with BFG staying I think we'll be fine for CBs. And getting Wells at the last minute was a real bonus. So yes, an excellent window overall.
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 8, 2019 19:00:11 GMT
McKenna would have been nice. Warbs clearly wanted him as the final piece in the jigsaw. But it wasn't to be and with BFG staying I think we'll be fine for CBs. So yes, an excellent window overall. I think the BFG was only going if someone better was coming in. And as you say mate, that wasn't to be. I'd imagine Leistner will have his eye on a transfer in January if he's 3rd or 4th choice though. |
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Post by BrightonR on Aug 8, 2019 19:26:57 GMT
Fantastic window imo. Now got good players and perfectly adequate cover for every position.
As has been said already, both on here and by the club, a complete refresh was required and we got one.
What makes me happiest of all though, is judging by the way the boys went about their business at Stoke, we appear to want to play a really nice style of football. No rushed passes or aimless hoofing. If the right ball isn’t available to play, then go back, keep possession and move the opposition around until it is.
Down to us now to really get behind them and show our appreciation for what they are trying to do. Very hard to do that in recent years with the way various managers set us up. We’re going to have the odd bad game obviously, but at least we know that the philosophy of them going out to entertain us is there. Moaning and whining at misplaced passes will not help them. Important that all the while they are doing what we expect from them on the pitch, then we do our bit and give them the full backing, which that entitles them to expect from us.
Looking forward to some fantastic performances and the accompanying cracking atmospheres.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 8, 2019 20:16:32 GMT
Saw on twitter someone post 10k spent (Kelly) and 10mil brought in that’s some turnaround from four five years ago
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 8, 2019 21:25:09 GMT
Saw on twitter someone post 10k spent (Kelly) and 10mil brought in that’s some turnaround from four five years ago I'm sure we paid a few other nominal fees mate. There were also loan fees for all 3 of the strikers we brought in I think. |
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Post by esoxlucius on Aug 9, 2019 8:17:54 GMT
Saw on twitter someone post 10k spent (Kelly) and 10mil brought in that’s some turnaround from four five years ago I'm sure we paid a few other nominal fees mate. There were also loan fees for all 3 of the strikers we brought in I think. I am not one of those ITK bores with an ego that needs a massage but I do get to meet a number of the players before and after games and chat with them. With that out of the way, I would like to give an indication of where the club are with wages wrt a couple of players; one of our much loved talents renewed a contract last season when he became a 1st team regular and his money rose to £3,300 p.w. Most of our U23's are on around £3-600 a week. Geoff Cameron told me that Stoke paid half his wages last season so that meant he was receiving £17.5k from QPR Wells & Hemed were slightly more but QPR were still only paying half and, from a conversation I had with Lee Hoos who told me that the club were leaving it late to sign players so they didn't have to pay loan fees on players that their clubs just wanted off their books. I have no access to the accounts so I am unable to verify any of this but I have no reason to believe the players were lying to me, or Lee Hoos for that matter. I would imagine that this seasons dealings are being conducted with much the same ethos. Obviously money wasn't the only topic of conversation with these players and I have had a few chats with Geoff Cameron as he is a big fan of all the Boston sports teams and I am a big fan of the Red Sox & the Patriots. Another really good chat was with Ben Wells who talked a lot about what a great club QPR were even though he is still a WHU season ticket holder along with his family. He and Faysal Bettache were also the ones that told me that Charley Kendall was one who might break through to the first team this season, and in a later conversation with Kendall he confirmed that he is working towards breaking into the squad this season. I would expect a loan spell somewhere first after January may be a more realistic aspirational target with Hugill, Wells & Mlakar ahead of him. |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 9, 2019 10:08:53 GMT
Good post Esox and it’s reassuring to read club are operating effectively
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Post by Shania on Aug 9, 2019 10:55:03 GMT
IMO, the only player we should have shifted, but didn`t, is Leinstner, We probably may have been able to sign Bates or McKenna, if TBG had got his move back to Germany. The latter is too slow for playing (in) a high defensive line. But he is still at the club, and I wish he will make me eat my words..  |
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 9, 2019 10:57:42 GMT
I'm sure we paid a few other nominal fees mate. There were also loan fees for all 3 of the strikers we brought in I think. I am not one of those ITK bores with an ego that needs a massage but I do get to meet a number of the players before and after games and chat with them. With that out of the way, I would like to give an indication of where the club are with wages wrt a couple of players; one of our much loved talents renewed a contract last season when he became a 1st team regular and his money rose to £3,300 p.w. Most of our U23's are on around £3-600 a week. Geoff Cameron told me that Stoke paid half his wages last season so that meant he was receiving £17.5k from QPR Wells & Hemed were slightly more but QPR were still only paying half and, from a conversation I had with Lee Hoos who told me that the club were leaving it late to sign players so they didn't have to pay loan fees on players that their clubs just wanted off their books. I have no access to the accounts so I am unable to verify any of this but I have no reason to believe the players were lying to me, or Lee Hoos for that matter. I would imagine that this seasons dealings are being conducted with much the same ethos. Obviously money wasn't the only topic of conversation with these players and I have had a few chats with Geoff Cameron as he is a big fan of all the Boston sports teams and I am a big fan of the Red Sox & the Patriots. Another really good chat was with Ben Wells who talked a lot about what a great club QPR were even though he is still a WHU season ticket holder along with his family. He and Faysal Bettache were also the ones that told me that Charley Kendall was one who might break through to the first team this season, and in a later conversation with Kendall he confirmed that he is working towards breaking into the squad this season. I would expect a loan spell somewhere first after January may be a more realistic aspirational target with Hugill, Wells & Mlakar ahead of him. Good insight mate, thanks. I hear bits and bobs, but never direct from the horses mouth like you do. And certainly some of the stuff I hear turns out to be Chinese whispers. With regards to "loan fees" as I've worded it. Breaking our salary structure to pay 50% of a Premier League salary or a physical loan fee, either way it's money spent. The point I was making is that I don't think we can genuinely say that we made 10m quid net profit this transfer window, when we know full well a lot of it has been spent on bringing in expensive loans. |
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Post by davieqpr on Aug 9, 2019 11:32:36 GMT
To put it in perspective 303 players did not have their contracts renewed in the Championship this season. Less than half have found new clubs. Again most of the ones that did either went to a lower league or abroad. So we are not the only club cost cutting in this division.
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