Season 2019/20 QPR Predictions

Scowen is Scowen

Never going set world alight, especially in advanced role, but he’s decent enough spoiler, but problem is we how have better spoilers as options then him. Squad player for me and he will have part to play but it’s not in AM nor starting eleven

So the expectation is that management have come to the same conclusion and we'll see him on the bench on Saturday.

Be interesting to see. I think that he does bring a bit of extra bite to the midfield which Warbs might like.

I appreciate that I am completely new to everyone on here except Hud but I just don't get the need to air criticism; the old adage "If you've nowt good to say, say nowt" rings true for me. When you read all these articles about various levels of professional sportsmen & women who are suffering varying degrees of depression and a lot ascribe it to people they don't know on social media sites etc. More locally, how much abuse did Grant Hall get when he was suffering from Patellar Tendonitis, triggering a deep depression about his future and most sites had "fans" calling him a mercenary, a lazy cunt sitting on a good contract and not playing for it etc. I had a long chat with him last season about his recovery and it's affect on his mental health, this was before his article where he revealed the extent of his depression, and wasn't pleasant listening to it. Traoré was another who had deep seated mental problems trying to overcome a fear of suffering a career ending injury and what it would mean to him and his family. Then there was the recent article about Ebere Eze and his tribulations with fans calling him lazy, arrogant etc. when his form dropped off last season. 
I would guarantee if you had to perform your job of work, no matter how much you liked it, with vitriolic criticism ringing in your ear all the time you would soon be into HR to have a stop put to it. It makes not a scrap of difference how much the players earn, they are human beings, and young ones at that, and criticism can destroy them; despite their persona on the pitch. 
I have been guilty in the past of criticising our players on forums but since seeing what it can do I refrain as much as I possibly can and when I feel someone has had a bad game, I try to look for the things that well in the rest of that game for them. NO-ONE ever played better because people were loudly criticising them. There are worse things than a QPR player having a dip in form to really get critical about. Peace!

Like everyone I gave Boswanka dog's abuse as home to Newcastle. I'm glad I did. I screamed at Hughesless at home to Southampton. At Jimmy endlessly. Especially at Forest away. And at Scheve when he tried to sub Pawel last season. All those under achievers were moved on soon after. You're welcome.

Hope manager would be more tactful then that but you never know.

If he’s dropped Scowen will know it’s because there are better players he won’t need telling

I understand all that and I am certainly not trying to stifle comment or anything. I'm sure that if we meet before a game we'll both get on well, the same with everyone on here. I just hate to see kids and young men getting slaughtered because they don't meet someone's unrealistic expectations, or they have having a rough trot. As for screaming abuse during games at players and managers; if you've got £30 odd to spend on something, spend it on something that gives you some measure of happiness and joy, not on something that has you railing abuse at people you don't know. For example; a few seasons ago up at Burton I was sat with with a guy I used to go to a lot of away games with and two men sat just behind us and as soon as the teams were read out they both loudly started moaning about various players that were in the squad like Polter, Onuoha, Chery, Caulker & Washington. The game kicked off and anytime a QPR player made the slightest error they were both up on their feet effing and blinding at the top of their voices this continued all through the half and as son as the second half kicked off they were right back into it. When Burton scored I turned to them and said "I bet you're happy now aren't you?" and was told "Fuck off mate, I paid for my ticket, I fucking do what I please" I told him I would refund him the cost of his ticket if he would fuck off home and leave the rest of us to support the team and got told to fuck off again. I then asked him why he thought a good use of his time and money was to travel to the Midlands just to abuse the team he claimed he supported. All I got was "fuck off mate". I called them both disgraces to the club and left it at that. The abuse did cease, especially when Polter scored the equaliser and they left the ground almost immediately after. PLewase explain that mentality to me, if you can.

But no one has been slaughtered Exo people have just offered opinions on how they think someone has performed and offered alternatives, what’s wrong with that?

Should have been around When Lynch, Green, Ned, Bosingwa, Hughes and Flávio etc were at club. Now they were slaughterings as many on here will testify.

I dropped into WATRBS forum a couple of times but I couldn't be doing with that level of abuse towards our players. I don't know how many of you remember Bosingwa coming on as sub at WBA for his debut but the common consensus at the game was "Wow, what a player, you can see why he has lots of winners medals etc." What happened at the training ground where he locked himself in after Candleface refused to speak to him over why he had been dropped was very carefully spun to make him the villain in the piece because... well everyone loves 'arry don't they? Even in the last home game against Newcastle where he was picked just so the fans could abuse him (what kind of character does that?) there was a couple of flashes of just what could have been if we had had a better manager. One particular moment was after the Mags had sussed out that they could rough him up a bit without upsetting the home fans and he was flipped up in the air by a late tackle. As the ref blew the whistle he landed on the ball, spotted it dead and pinged a 45-50 yard straight to Bobby Zamora's toes on the run. The way the club was being run at that time it is no surprise to me that we wasted such a talent, as we did with Isla & Vargas, but José didn't help his own cause by acting so petulantly. The way the club is being run these days was a long overdue change and hopefully the fans realise the stench that surrounded us then is drifted off into the distance now.

That and the fact that old saggy face told the fans what he was getting paid!

The same astute football manger that told us that Taarabt was five stone overweight? That bloke was a cancer in this club.

Have you seen that Chelsea are going after the people on social media racially abusing and issuing death threats to Tammy Abraham? Fair play to them; an extreme example of what can be said to players by people who think there will be no recriminations for their actions.

Sorry Shania, I couldn't disagree more. He is no way suited to the attacking role, misplaced passes do matter when a good move breaks down or he fouls someone when he doesn't control the ball first time. Look at the difference a proper attacking midfield player made when Chair replaced him v Huddersfield.

Have to agree with you Alan. It is crazy to conflate the absurdities people post on social media with us having a debate here. And - IMHO - there's nothing wrong with good, robust debate; it's the lifeblood of forums and what we're all here for, after all.

It's equally absurd to posit that what we say here will have any effect on those we discuss; even if they did read this site, they'd easily be able to understand the motivations of those posting, even when they're negative posts.

If people are badly affected by what they read on social media, really, they shouldn't read it. Life is full of such nonsense, and if we allow it to get to us, in any sphere, then we do ourselves a disservice. I understand that people in the public eye can feel vulnerable, but it's a two-edged sword if you make your living from being in a public role. Rather than rail at people posting nonsense on social media, I think the onus is on those in any form of authority in sport or any other walk of public life, to look after those they have a duty of care for, and help them discern between what is meaningful and what is not. The trolls will not go away. The art is to ignore them. Reacting to them only gives them the oxygen they crave. So starve them of it!

Just clicked on voter number to see who had plumped for what, and I accidently registered a vote.... polls are way more fun when they aren't anonymous.

edit: on second thoughts, can you make them public on proboards? Maybe you cant....    If you can, go for it.