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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 27, 2019 14:57:55 GMT
Just seen their takeover is off and it looks like they'll be going into liquidation. Dreadful that every fucking high up in the EPL or EFL, or big club like City can just sit by and let one of the oldest clubs in English football go to the wall. Got cunts like Sanchez at Utd sitting on the bench collecting 500k a week, how is that allowed? English football is corrupt and fucked.
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Aug 27, 2019 15:09:19 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Aug 27, 2019 15:09:19 GMT
Defo questions needs be asked of EFL but not sure we can point finger other clubs as their not responsible for the likes of bury. Even if they wanted to help would football regulations allow them too??
And where does it stop if you help one do they then have to help every club.
Only way I can see it improving in future are if clubs like bury become feeder clubs to big boys but smaller clubs won’t like that either
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Post by esoxlucius on Aug 27, 2019 15:23:03 GMT
Defo questions needs be asked of EFL but not sure we can point finger other clubs as their not responsible for the likes of bury. Even if they wanted to help would football regulations allow them too?? And where does it stop if you help one do they then have to help every club. Only way I can see it improving in future are if clubs like bury become feeder clubs to big boys but smaller clubs won’t like that either It all works it's way back to the FL's fit and proper owner's test. That was where the cancer began at both clubs, Blackpool and Coventry too. Shaun Harvey has a lot to answer for. There is also the small matter of FFP fines, when the deal was first signed off on, being distributed to the lower league clubs who wouldn't be receiving large TV deals. Not long after the rules changed that it now goes to charity but unless it is MIND, the EFL's official charity, it is impossible to find out which charities are receiving the money.
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Aug 27, 2019 15:23:12 GMT
Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 27, 2019 15:23:12 GMT
I have a mate who is a Bury fan and I can't believe that just a few months back I was congratulating him on his teams promotion.
Really sad.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 27, 2019 15:28:41 GMT
Spot on Esox FFP gibes should be used to bail out clubs like this that would make FFP worthwhile
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Aug 27, 2019 16:02:14 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 27, 2019 16:02:14 GMT
Posted on Bolton thread that smaller clubs should ground share to cut costs. No one would like it but if it's that or go under....? If it works in Milan...
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Aug 27, 2019 16:27:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 16:27:10 GMT
Just seen their takeover is off and it looks like they'll be going into liquidation. Dreadful that every fucking high up in the EPL or EFL, or big club like City can just sit by and let one of the oldest clubs in English football go to the wall. Got cunts like Sanchez at Utd sitting on the bench collecting 500k a week, how is that allowed? English football is corrupt and fucked. A harsh as it sounds it's not on other clubs to bail them out.
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Aug 27, 2019 16:33:39 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Aug 27, 2019 16:33:39 GMT
Posted on Bolton thread that smaller clubs should ground share to cut costs. No one would like it but if it's that or go under....? If it works in Milan... I’m not sure in this case Can get city clubs sharing but when you get down to town level it won’t work in my opinion as there unique towns. Like saying reading should share with oxford simply because of locality
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Aug 27, 2019 16:51:25 GMT
Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 27, 2019 16:51:25 GMT
like i said ,you cant save evreyone.
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 27, 2019 17:04:45 GMT
Defo questions needs be asked of EFL but not sure we can point finger other clubs as their not responsible for the likes of bury. Even if they wanted to help would football regulations allow them too?? And where does it stop if you help one do they then have to help every club. Only way I can see it improving in future are if clubs like bury become feeder clubs to big boys but smaller clubs won’t like that either Shaun Harvey has a lot to answer for You can say that again. The manner of his departure (post our FFP sanction) remains clouded in mystery. Ownership regs apart, there is no question that FFP has achieved the exact opposite of what was intended, an entirely predictable scenario (as discussed elsewhere on here). Harvey had serious input into both.
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Post by Greg1882 on Aug 27, 2019 17:15:27 GMT
Just shows what could have been for us. When you consider exactly how fucked we were I think the guys who’ve sorted the mess deserve enormous credit. With the foundations we’ve laid we will Come out of this whole shambles a better, stronger club. Shame the same can’t be said for bury and Bolton. One things for certain though, they sadly won’t be the last
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Aug 27, 2019 18:35:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 18:35:38 GMT
There is so much money in modern day football that a fund should be set up to aid clubs in the situations Bolton and Bury find themselves in. Tv deals of over a billion pounds and rising with agents nicking at least 100 million a year from the game tells you that there is enough to set something like this up.
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Post by esoxlucius on Aug 27, 2019 20:45:43 GMT
There is so much money in modern day football that a fund should be set up to aid clubs in the situations Bolton and Bury find themselves in. Tv deals of over a billion pounds and rising with agents nicking at least 100 million a year from the game tells you that there is enough to set something like this up. The money from FFP fines would have done the trick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:19:45 GMT
There is so much money in modern day football that a fund should be set up to aid clubs in the situations Bolton and Bury find themselves in. Tv deals of over a billion pounds and rising with agents nicking at least 100 million a year from the game tells you that there is enough to set something like this up. The money from FFP fines would have done the trick. Something really needs to be done otherwise football in this country will be a maximum of 50 or 60 clubs as these two are only the start.
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Aug 27, 2019 22:00:21 GMT
Post by Stanley75 on Aug 27, 2019 22:00:21 GMT
I'd like to know exactly how our £42 million FFP fine gets allocated...
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Aug 27, 2019 22:29:08 GMT
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 27, 2019 22:29:08 GMT
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Aug 27, 2019 22:59:27 GMT
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Post by Rangers77 on Aug 27, 2019 22:59:27 GMT
Fuck the EFL. Fuck the PL. And fuck shitty Sky Sports a thousand ways from Tuesday. I pray Sky goes bust.
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Aug 27, 2019 23:08:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 23:08:35 GMT
No longer a game just a business and sky and people like that annoying fuc£er shreeves sum the modern game. Premier league is all that matters to them. Gary Neville should have a word with himself considering it is his hometown club with a stand named after his old man. Managed to get Peter Lim to fund Salford City sure he could have helped find someone for Bury.
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Aug 27, 2019 23:14:44 GMT
Post by BrightonR on Aug 27, 2019 23:14:44 GMT
I’ve no idea how bad their finances are, but would have thought that there would have been a few former footballers who might have put their hands in their considerably deep pockets in order to help out temporarily. Perhaps a couple that were born in Bury, whose father earned a living from them and whose mother worked there too.
I appreciate that as they own another club, there are certain limitations with regard to investing. But surely they could have diverted a few quid.
Edit: Just seen 73’s post. 👍
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 23:33:43 GMT
I’ve no idea how bad their finances are, but would have thought that there would have been a few former footballers who might have put their hands in their considerably deep pockets in order to help out temporarily. Perhaps a couple that were born in Bury, whose father earned a living from them and whose mother worked there too. I appreciate that as they own another club, there are certain limitations with regard to investing. But surely they could have diverted a few quid. Edit: Just seen 73’s post. 👍 100% Brights. Shameful that the brothers grim can whore themselves to Sky showing off their new project which is funded by Peter Lim yet have not said a word regarding Bury.
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 27, 2019 23:50:10 GMT
I’ve no idea how bad their finances are, but would have thought that there would have been a few former footballers who might have put their hands in their considerably deep pockets in order to help out temporarily. Perhaps a couple that were born in Bury, whose father earned a living from them and whose mother worked there too. I appreciate that as they own another club, there are certain limitations with regard to investing. But surely they could have diverted a few quid. Edit: Just seen 73’s post. 👍 the brothers grim is right. The FA, BBC,and media general chucked an arm and a leg at the women's world cup and despite all the hype the little wanker still managed to get a worse finishing position than they achieved previously with a tenth of the support. That's nothing compared to this. Football is not a normal business, especially in small towns its part of the community, the fabric. The Nevilles were part of that. But it isn't just them at fault, the EFL is a crime scene. They allowed the club to be taken over not once but twice by shysters. Fit and proper persons? Yeah, right. Throw the dog's breakfast of FFP into the frame and it makes me wish we'd taken them on in court.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 28, 2019 5:26:32 GMT
absolute disgrace, i bet the people at the FA are patting eachother on the back and telling themselves they did their best
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 5:44:14 GMT
Won't go near a skysports link on the subject after their classless deadline day style countdown yesterday
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 28, 2019 8:25:54 GMT
I’ve no idea how bad their finances are, but would have thought that there would have been a few former footballers who might have put their hands in their considerably deep pockets in order to help out temporarily. Perhaps a couple that were born in Bury, whose father earned a living from them and whose mother worked there too. I appreciate that as they own another club, there are certain limitations with regard to investing. But surely they could have diverted a few quid. Edit: Just seen 73’s post. 👍 100% Brights. Shameful that the brothers grim can whore themselves to Sky showing off their new project which is funded by Peter Lim yet have not said a word regarding Bury. Can't understand why they didn't plough their money into their hometown club in the first place. Would be like me ignoring Rs and helping out Hayes.... Just wouldn't happen.
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Post by lymehoop on Aug 28, 2019 10:58:50 GMT
a wake up call for all of us. Players wages got to be more sensible and outlaw the parasite agents. Gordon Taylor the PFA Chairman is knocking on 80 and his salary is over £700,000 a year ffs, no wonder the old fossil won't leave. What has happened to Bury is a fucking disgrace
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 28, 2019 16:06:02 GMT
My eldest boy was at southend from 13,new ground was talked about for years b4 he there,then they said it all go for it and new training ground. Said first shovel in ground etc. Well he 23 this Dec and they still in crap ground and same crap training ground and more winding up orders than a norwich fan has fingers. All these clubs are potless and lied too.
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Aug 29, 2019 10:05:21 GMT
Post by shepherdsmush on Aug 29, 2019 10:05:21 GMT
Doesn't matter how much or how little revenue you make, if you can't budget and manage financially you will eventually go under. Sad but a cold hard fact.
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Sept 2, 2019 11:54:28 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 2, 2019 11:54:28 GMT
Been chatting to other fans about Bury on Facebook. Mad how little sympathy there seems to be for them. For fans of other League 2 sides the general consensus seems to be that Bury cheated the system to get promoted last season and deserve what's coming.
I suppose I get it, but every club is just 1 bad owner away from being in the same predicament!
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Post by lymehoop on Sept 2, 2019 12:31:29 GMT
Been chatting to other fans about Bury on Facebook. Mad how little sympathy there seems to be for them. For fans of other League 2 sides the general consensus seems to be that Bury cheated the system to get promoted last season and deserve what's coming. I suppose I get it, but every club is just 1 bad owner away from being in the same predicament! depressing the tribal mentality of some fans, that a club with the history of Bury and there seem to be some who are gloating at their demise. For those fans who went to Bury every week with the two Manchester clubs just around the corner, I salute you. Hope you will return someday
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Post by itsonlyagame on Sept 2, 2019 12:41:26 GMT
Exactly. Takes a fan of a certain ilk to follow the so called lesser teams who are in the constant shadow of their richer neighbours. The game would be a lot worse off without that sort of supporter.
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