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Post by West Acton on Nov 4, 2019 7:20:14 GMT
How do you think they would get on
There is always talk about them joining prem but I think if they were in this league they would not walk it or go up as it’s stronger then the SPL and they would get a proper game each week
Anyone think they would steam roll this league
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 4, 2019 7:37:12 GMT
no.they nothing special.be carnage outside mind. Should never happen though.Would destroy scots league and id be pissed off if my team had fought all way up pyramid for these2 to walz in.
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Post by esoxlucius on Nov 4, 2019 7:53:35 GMT
Put them in the National League North and see how they progress.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 4, 2019 8:01:32 GMT
Agree Esox. But assuming they were are league how you think they would get on
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Post by Brian Wilson on Nov 4, 2019 8:21:51 GMT
Celtic might get promoted quickly but it would be difficult and certainly not a guarantee. I could see Rangers taking 5 years plus to find their feet at championship level
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Post by West Acton on Nov 4, 2019 8:44:27 GMT
I think championship is comfortably higher standard then SPL willo
I don’t think Scottish clubs should join our league and I would toss out welsh ones too but would not be against a UK cup competition that could be fun
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Post by esoxlucius on Nov 4, 2019 8:50:17 GMT
I think championship is comfortably higher standard then SPL willo I don’t think Scottish clubs should join our league and I would toss out welsh ones too but would not be against a UK cup competition that could be fun We used to have the British Home Championships for England, Scotland, Wales & N. Ireland up until 1984 when it was abolished after 100 years. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 4, 2019 8:57:09 GMT
Never realised that Esox. Was in just div 1 that represented
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 4, 2019 9:05:42 GMT
I think he's referring to the UK national teams Wests. Home international championships I think they called it.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 4, 2019 9:07:45 GMT
Ah ok I knew about them. Thought there was some uk type intertoo cup I had missed
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Post by shepherdsmush on Nov 4, 2019 9:21:13 GMT
Celtic would walk the Championship. Rangers would be a top six side.
Neither should join our leagues though.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Nov 4, 2019 10:43:06 GMT
Celtic have averaged around 85 points last few seasons in what we all agree is a much poorer league.
Not sure they’d walk the championship but imagine they’d be top 6 or thereabouts.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Nov 4, 2019 11:12:25 GMT
They wouldn't join anyway as they'd miss out on their handful of games in Europe.
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 4, 2019 11:24:17 GMT
I think it really depends on whether you are asking about the long term or the short term Westy.
From a short term point of view, I think with the current squads and Managers they are both probably around mid-table Championship sides. It's also worth pointing out that Rangers in particular are not a well organised club at board level. They seem to always overspend and be fighting to stave off issues as a result of it, and there is always a lot of politics and power struggles in the board room there.
In the long run though, you'd have to suspect these 2 sides would prevail. In terms of global fan base, merchandising, attendances these are absolutely huge sides. Just to give you an idea of what I mean, when I was in Dubai QPR and Rangers' supporters clubs shared a bar. They would get 300 out for a big match. That by far eclipsed the turnouts of any other supporters club in Dubai.
These are 2 incredibly well supported, monsters of football clubs that are only really being held back because they are in a really low calibre league. Give them English TV revenues they wouldn't be hanging around at Championship level for long in my opinion!
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Post by 72bus on Nov 4, 2019 11:36:28 GMT
Think both would do well as money talks and they'd pay big wages
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Post by lymehoop on Nov 4, 2019 12:00:53 GMT
when they get their Independence and we build back Hadrians Wall to 20 foot them joining won't come into the equation
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Post by Corbray on Nov 4, 2019 12:36:11 GMT
celtic would be midtable in the prem imo whilst rangers would be a playoff team. that being said i reckon either one or both of them would eventually be challenging for the top 6 in the prem for sure.
they're both massive clubs with good stadiums and a rich history and with the revenue and tv exposure of the prem they'd be able to attract quality players
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Post by esoxlucius on Nov 4, 2019 13:55:55 GMT
Perhaps we could get PSG or Ajax in to spice things up, and Glentoran for balance.
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Post by hubble on Nov 4, 2019 16:50:51 GMT
Although I get all the objections, it would be cool to have them in the league I think. Although there's no way they'd want to go into the Championship! They'd expect to waltz into the prem.
How would they do in the Champ? Celtic would probably be top 2, Rangers top 10.
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 4, 2019 17:58:15 GMT
Although I get all the objections, it would be cool to have them in the league I think. Although there's no way they'd want to go into the Championship! They'd expect to waltz into the prem. How would they do in the Champ? Celtic would probably be top 2, Rangers top 10. Completely disagree with it being 'cool'. The sectarianism surrounding those two is like flies around dung and it poisons football. Their fans don't know how to behave either and are a logistical nightmare. We're better off leaving them where they are. Agree mate, and I come from a family of Rangers fans. Some of the stuff you hear on the terraces at Ibrox is straight from the Dark Ages! |
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Post by hubble on Nov 4, 2019 18:05:18 GMT
Aha, maybe it would help to dissolve that then!!
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Post by Corbray on Nov 4, 2019 19:26:26 GMT
Completely disagree with it being 'cool'. The sectarianism surrounding those two is like flies around dung and it poisons football. Their fans don't know how to behave either and are a logistical nightmare. We're better off leaving them where they are. Agree mate, and I come from a family of Rangers fans. Some of the stuff you hear on the terraces at Ibrox is straight from the Dark Ages! my missus is a glaswegian and talks about stabbings at old firm games as though its as trivial as someone popping down the shop for some milk lol. |
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Post by Vespa on Nov 4, 2019 20:04:09 GMT
Rangers would be mid table and Celtic ,play offs /anywhere top 6 . Wouldn`t want either of them though , too many pissed scots men in London already ..
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 5, 2019 9:39:40 GMT
I don't think you've got too much to worry about SW. I can't see either side ever being allowed near the English league until the sectarian stuff gets cleaned up. Why would the Football League want to risk the potential negatives?
And I don't see anything happening at any point soon that will improve the bigotry in Glaswegian football. Even the young fans coming through are very happy to get involved.
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 5, 2019 9:59:07 GMT
“The real problem of humanity is the following: we have paleolithic emotions; medieval institutions; and god-like technology." - E. O. Wilson (American entomologist and biologist) I don't think you've got too much to worry about SW. I can't see either side ever being allowed near the English league until the sectarian stuff gets cleaned up. Why would the Football lLeague want to risk the potential negatives? And I don't see anything happening any point soon that will improve the bigotry in Glaswegian football. Even the young fans coming through are very happy to get involved. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 5, 2019 9:59:26 GMT
Cant we let hearts Fiorentina Marseille,in great cities for a visit😅
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Post by 72bus on Nov 8, 2019 8:47:54 GMT
Put them in the National League North and see how they prgress. Celtic just beat lazio home and away , rangers beat Porto last nite hardly NLN |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 8, 2019 8:54:57 GMT
Put them in the National League North and see how they prgress. Celtic just beat lazio home and away , rangers beat Porto last nite hardly NLN do t think he’s saying there NLS standard but if they ever joined they start bottom and work way up |
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Post by esoxlucius on Nov 8, 2019 14:50:12 GMT
Put them in the National League North and see how they prgress. Celtic just beat lazio home and away , rangers beat Porto last nite hardly NLN If they want a chance in the English Leagues, start at the bottom. Better yet, for reasons outlined above, never let them anywhere near the English Leagues. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Nov 10, 2019 15:27:46 GMT
What was the score when we played Celtic in pre-season friendlies ? Vaguely remember us being in League one when we played them ?
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