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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 30, 2019 13:08:12 GMT
As said before, Adel would have never ended up with us if he didn't have major character flaws. I couldn't dislike him, far too many players ahead of him in that respect. You could say similar about Stanley Bowles though only going on what I have read about him. 😂Very different times and very different fitness levels, diet etc.... but he wasn't injured very often. Busted ankle aside he was kicked to bits every week and was out there again next match. |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 30, 2019 14:02:00 GMT
Adel loved playing for us as there was no pressure on him as the club and majority of fans let him take the complete piss out of us with no consequences
World of Difference between loving playing for us and loving the actual club
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Post by shepherdsmush on Dec 30, 2019 14:27:38 GMT
Angriest player I've ever seen.....but I have to say I'd swap any of our recent strikers bar Austin for him. |
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Post by James1979 on Dec 30, 2019 14:44:49 GMT
Adel loved playing for us as there was no pressure on him as the club and majority of fans let him take the complete piss out of us with no consequences World of Difference between loving playing for us and loving the actual club As has been said before, He would never have joined us if he had a perfect attitude. But look at it from his side, he was captain and either scored or assisted over 50 goals in our promotion season. You’re a young lad and 1) the fans vote Paddy Kenny as Player of season 2) you’re stripped of captaincy in promotion season 3) players like Barton join on stupid wages 4) you get picked on by Barton in papers and training |
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Post by esoxlucius on Dec 30, 2019 16:59:17 GMT
Adel loved playing for us as there was no pressure on him as the club and majority of fans let him take the complete piss out of us with no consequences World of Difference between loving playing for us and loving the actual club As has been said before, He would never have joined us if he had a perfect attitude. But look at it from his side, he was captain and either scored or assisted over 50 goals in our promotion season. You’re a young lad and 1) the fans vote Paddy Kenny as Player of season 2) you’re stripped of captaincy in promotion season 3) players like Barton join on stupid wages 4) you get picked on by Barton in papers and training Which extrapolates out to Barton being the biggest cunt we have ever had at the club. |
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Post by James1979 on Dec 30, 2019 17:23:36 GMT
As has been said before, He would never have joined us if he had a perfect attitude. But look at it from his side, he was captain and either scored or assisted over 50 goals in our promotion season. You’re a young lad and 1) the fans vote Paddy Kenny as Player of season 2) you’re stripped of captaincy in promotion season 3) players like Barton join on stupid wages 4) you get picked on by Barton in papers and training Which extrapolates out to Barton being the biggest cunt we have ever had at the club. Yes. If you listen to Clint and Derry talk about those days, sounds like bullying of our best talent. Barton’s a tosser. |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 30, 2019 19:09:25 GMT
Which extrapolates out to Barton being the biggest cunt we have ever had at the club. Yes. If you listen to Clint and Derry talk about those days, sounds like bullying of our best talent. Barton’s a tosser. i won’t name the source or the player referred to but I know as a fact one of our lauded players was less then welcoming to new players after we went up which caused a divide between old and new so lets not point fingers. |
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Post by James1979 on Dec 30, 2019 19:11:59 GMT
Yes. If you listen to Clint and Derry talk about those days, sounds like bullying of our best talent. Barton’s a tosser. i won’t name the source or the player referred to but I know as a fact one of our lauded players was less then welcoming to new players after we went up which caused a divide between old and new so lets not point fingers. Mackie (was the chap I heard) Anyway, my point was really Adel rather than a Barton one |
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 30, 2019 19:45:01 GMT
Was it Mackie, or Derry?
Anyway, easy to see how this happens. You have a load of guys on Championship wages that get us promoted. All of a sudden we are a Premiership side and all of these has-beens with CV's that may appear impressive to Fernandes and probably to us fans rock up on wages 3 or 4 times those already in the dressing room. The players probably already know immediately that most of them are either past it, overpaid, over rated or a combination of these things.
Those in charge were very naive to think they wouldn't upset the dressing room.
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Post by James1979 on Dec 30, 2019 19:51:41 GMT
Doesn’t really matter who I guess. Point is if Adel has stayed captain and we hadn’t signed Barton and swp......I think we’d have Had a much more together squad.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 30, 2019 20:03:44 GMT
Was it Mackie, or Derry? Anyway, easy to see how this happens. You have a load of guys on Championship wages that get us promoted. All of a sudden we are a Premiership side and all of these has-beens with CV's that may appear impressive to Fernandes and probably to us fans rock up on wages 3 or 4 times those already in the dressing room. The players probably already know immediately that most of them are either past it, overpaid, over rated or a combination of these things. Those in charge were very naive to think they wouldn't upset the dressing room. point is Tarbs Esox is slamming Barton for his behaviour, possibly rightfully, when a prominent player who he would no doubt class as Rangers hero is behaving just as bad as the man he’s singling out. It’s double standards The reason for behaviour dished out is irrelevant in my view. |
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Post by esoxlucius on Dec 31, 2019 0:27:05 GMT
Was it Mackie, or Derry? Anyway, easy to see how this happens. You have a load of guys on Championship wages that get us promoted. All of a sudden we are a Premiership side and all of these has-beens with CV's that may appear impressive to Fernandes and probably to us fans rock up on wages 3 or 4 times those already in the dressing room. The players probably already know immediately that most of them are either past it, overpaid, over rated or a combination of these things. Those in charge were very naive to think they wouldn't upset the dressing room. point is Tarbs Esox is slamming Barton for his behaviour, possibly rightfully, when a prominent player who he would no doubt class as Rangers hero is behaving just as bad as the man he’s singling out. It’s double standards The reason for behaviour dished our is irrelevant in my view. Would you care to elaborate? |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2019 7:08:26 GMT
point is Tarbs Esox is slamming Barton for his behaviour, possibly rightfully, when a prominent player who he would no doubt class as Rangers hero is behaving just as bad as the man he’s singling out. It’s double standards The reason for behaviour dished our is irrelevant in my view. Would you care to elaborate? no |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Dec 31, 2019 8:44:06 GMT
Barton.
As a man he has to be one of the biggest con artists out there.
Goes all out to make people believe he’s a complex character, philosophising and ruminating about subjects far and wide.
The bloke is a narcissistic, sociopathic bully.
Or to put it more another way, a prize cunt.
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 31, 2019 11:11:11 GMT
Doesn’t really matter who I guess. Point is if Adel has stayed captain and we hadn’t signed Barton and swp......I think we’d have Had a much more together squad. I don't believe Adel could have genuinely stayed as captain. I think it was a ploy by Warnock to get him playing which worked in terms of getting us promoted but probably was the first step in dividing the dressing room. The fact Adel didn't get voted player of the season by his team mates speaks volumes, particularly when you consider every journalist in the country rated him as the best player outside the Premiership. With hindsight, we should have sold Adel that summer. His stock would never have got higher, and to be fair he didn't even show up to the Leeds game on the last day of the season. Half hour before kick off nobody knew where he was. Should have been the proudest day of his career collecting the Championship trophy as club captain and he couldn't even be arsed to show up. The writing was on the wall and a smarter club would have got shot! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 11:21:23 GMT
Doesn’t really matter who I guess. Point is if Adel has stayed captain and we hadn’t signed Barton and swp......I think we’d have Had a much more together squad. I don't believe Adel could have genuinely stayed as captain. I think it was a ploy by Warnock to get him playing which worked in terms of getting us promoted but probably was the first step in dividing the dressing room. The fact Adel didn't get voted player of the season by his team mates speaks volumes, particularly when you consider every journalist in the country rated him as the best player outside the Premiership. With hindsight, we should have sold Adel that summer. His stock would never have got higher, and to be fair he didn't even show up to the Leeds game on the last day of the season. Half hour before kick off nobody knew where he was. Should have been the proudest day of his career collecting the Championship trophy as club captain and he couldn't even be arsed to show up. The writing was on the wall and a smarter club would have got shot! He was definitely there that day Tarbs |
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 31, 2019 13:13:25 GMT
You not read Warnock's book mate?
You should really give it a read. Loads of interesting stuff about the end of the Briatore era and the start of the Fernandes era in there.
If you remember, Adel started on the bench that day. The reason being he went missing leading up to the game. Literally nobody knew where he was til shortly before kick-off. Can't remember all the ins and outs, but I think Adel rocked up just before kick off expecting to play and Warnock had already made his mind up that he wouldn't be starting but agreed to put him on the bench.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2019 13:35:32 GMT
Doesn’t really matter who I guess. Point is if Adel has stayed captain and we hadn’t signed Barton and swp......I think we’d have Had a much more together squad. I don't believe Adel could have genuinely stayed as captain. I think it was a ploy by Warnock to get him playing which worked in terms of getting us promoted but probably was the first step in dividing the dressing room. The fact Adel didn't get voted player of the season by his team mates speaks volumes, particularly when you consider every journalist in the country rated him as the best player outside the Premiership. With hindsight, we should have sold Adel that summer. His stock would never have got higher, and to be fair he didn't even show up to the Leeds game on the last day of the season. Half hour before kick off nobody knew where he was. Should have been the proudest day of his career collecting the Championship trophy as club captain and he couldn't even be arsed to show up. The writing was on the wall and a smarter club would have got shot! this is great post |
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 31, 2019 13:38:13 GMT
If you remember, Adel started on the bench that day. The reason being he went missing leading up to the game. Literally nobody knew where he was til shortly before kick-off. Can't remember all the ins and outs, but I think Adel rocked up just before kick off expecting to play and Warnock had already made his mind up that he wouldn't be starting but agreed to put him on the bench. Yup, he did a right Stanley Bowles that day. |
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