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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 29, 2019 23:12:51 GMT
We should have won against Charlton and today. How can you plan for Cameron's poor header against Charlton and Wells' awful miss. We should have won that game by 3 goals. If we deserved to lose today or against Charlton it would be right to have a bit of a moan but we didn't and we were unlucky not to have picked up 6 points instead of 1. ...those 5 extra points would have left us just 2 behind the play offs. Sussed us out but we still should have won?  All these posts are basically saying the same thing mate, and is pretty much a reflection of our entire season. But whatever they 'should have' done they never actually DID, and so will never put points on the board which is all that ultimately counts. So that kind of speak means sod all really, hence I can't see how it can be used as any form of reasonable argument. IMO. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Dec 29, 2019 23:28:24 GMT
he's got us playing some of the best attacking football I've seen at Loftus Road in years Don't kid yourself that we are a real attacking threat to any of the decent teams in this division. We are far too easy to stop and too easy to score against. In fact, we are almost the same as last season (IMO) where, incidentally, we were 8th in the league at this point before an almighty slump. History could easily repeat itself with Cardiff, Leeds and Middlesex on the horizon. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Dec 29, 2019 23:36:50 GMT
And it's Queens Park Rangers,
Queens Park Rangers FC,
We're the most bang average team
The World has ever seen
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 29, 2019 23:45:40 GMT
I think ifs, buts, could have, should haves can serve a purpose in football. Yes, IF it looks like you are learning from the mistakes. Trouble is, on the evidence witnessed so far this season, that does not appear to be the case as far as the defensive side is concerned. Or at least a reasonable case could be made for that. the could and should from today and Charlton can be used to show we are doing things correct for the most part and just need to tweak a couple of things: ie, defensive clearing headers, finishing and giving Lumely the same treatment the original goalkeeper in Escape to Victory was given. Sure, but again there appears to be scant evidence of this tweaking, but more just repeating the same mistakes instead. It is obvious that Warburton has got a lot of things right but there is still work to do, no one should be denying that. But it's not as bad as some are making out. Yes, I'll give you that. However it could, and arguably should, be a lot better, even taking into account the cost of the assembled squad IMO. |
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Post by spongeparr on Dec 31, 2019 10:53:27 GMT
Just listened to the interview: "Nahki held the ball up well". Huh? Fuck right off with that shit, fella. He didn't hold it up once. I thought he played well as a long striker for the first time. I think he is pretty rubbish at the lone striker role but thought he done well. |
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 10:59:57 GMT
It's too early to start saying sack the manager
He needs to get a goalkeeper and two defenders sharpish
If he recruits midfielders and strikers instead they he needs to fark off
We have no problem going forward the problems clearly at the back
However some fans will never be happy until Warnock is back in the hotseat
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Post by spongeparr on Dec 31, 2019 11:03:51 GMT
Loved Warnock but I want Warbs to get his chance. We play good football even if our fans don't all understand it.
Case in point. Bloke in front of me was shouting "get it forward, stop tapping it about for fuck sake!". We went long literally a pass later and lost the ball "FFS keep the ball!". God knwos how frustrating it is for the players to have to deal with people like.
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 11:04:39 GMT
Obviously I love Warnock but give Warbs a window to rectify the situation
If we go mid table this season it's a good season
HOWEVER. I cannot see how our club can ever get back to the premier league in this situation with loans and free transfers
Is this it for the rest of my QPR life it's a fucking joke
Is this caused by FFP rules or Uncle Bungle we just cannot compete anymore even with Brentford ffs
Will this ever change even if the FFP fine is payed off can someone clarify this for me please
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 11:05:52 GMT
Not a negative post just need to know if this is it for next 10 yrs
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 11:07:00 GMT
We must be able to buy a few players surely
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Post by Corbray on Dec 31, 2019 11:10:32 GMT
Loved Warnock but I want Warbs to get his chance. We play good football even if our fans don't all understand it. Case in point. Bloke in front of me was shouting "get it forward, stop tapping it about for fuck sake!". We went long literally a pass later and lost the ball "FFS keep the ball!". God knwos how frustrating it is for the players to have to deal with people like. its more that we don't seem to be playing to our strengths much. our defenders aren't good with the ball so why pass it about, and the thing with passing it around is that other players need to make movements to open up space but no one seems to do that. if we're gunna hoof it up the pitch then it should be a ball that BOS can run onto as he's probably the fastest player in the division. we don't have a bad team at all, they're just not being played to their strengths imo |
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 31, 2019 11:21:40 GMT
We are 132 years old and have played 23 seasons in the top flight. We need to get over this believe that we have an incredible history of playing top flight football. It'll be nice if we get there again - and we will do one day - but we are at our 'natural station' and if you expected different then you haven't paid attention to our history. Sure SWL, I get that. However how many seasons have played in the top flight since 1968 - the last 52 years? Wouldn't the answer to that question give a bit more balance to your post? |
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 31, 2019 11:34:47 GMT
in 2020 we can not compete as we did 50 - 25 years ago. Perhaps when FFP is paid off; WF is up and running and we eventually move to a new fit for purpose stadium, we can start to aspire to those days once again. Always look on the bright side of life 😉 |
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Post by Shania on Dec 31, 2019 11:48:27 GMT
IMO, we have to go back to 3 centerbacks with wingbacks. I`m not sure Warburton will do it though.
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Post by spongeparr on Dec 31, 2019 11:50:16 GMT
Loved Warnock but I want Warbs to get his chance. We play good football even if our fans don't all understand it. Case in point. Bloke in front of me was shouting "get it forward, stop tapping it about for fuck sake!". We went long literally a pass later and lost the ball "FFS keep the ball!". God knwos how frustrating it is for the players to have to deal with people like. its more that we don't seem to be playing to our strengths much. our defenders aren't good with the ball so why pass it about, and the thing with passing it around is that other players need to make movements to open up space but no one seems to do that. if we're gunna hoof it up the pitch then it should be a ball that BOS can run onto as he's probably the fastest player in the division. we don't have a bad team at all, they're just not being played to their strengths imo Flip your thought process; maybe we are playing to our strengths. We have Hugill, Wells, Eze, Chair, Amos, BOS, Rangel, Manning, Cameron, Pugh etc that are all ball players. Hall is as well. ALl of these play football so changing our style makes no sense. We create a lot of chance but a lack of confidence means are aren't tucking them away. Our goals conceded are not down to the style of play, it's down to mistakes and/or lazy defending either by shape or closing down. Nothing to do with pasing out. You're basically saying everytime we get the ball, pump it diagonally into space and hope for the best. No offence but thank god you aren't managing our club. |
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Post by Shania on Dec 31, 2019 11:57:44 GMT
its more that we don't seem to be playing to our strengths much. our defenders aren't good with the ball so why pass it about, and the thing with passing it around is that other players need to make movements to open up space but no one seems to do that. if we're gunna hoof it up the pitch then it should be a ball that BOS can run onto as he's probably the fastest player in the division. we don't have a bad team at all, they're just not being played to their strengths imo Flip your thought process; maybe we are playing to our strengths. We have Hugill, Wells, Eze, Chair, Amos, BOS, Rangel, Manning, Cameron, Pugh etc that are all ball players. Hall is as well. ALl of these play football so changing our style makes no sense. We create a lot of chance but a lack of confidence means are aren't tucking them away. Our goals conceded are not down to the style of play, it's down to mistakes and/or lazy defending either by shape or closing down. Nothing to do with pasing out. You're basically saying everytime we get the ball, pump it diagonally into space and hope for the best. No offence but thank god you aren't managing our club. We need a defensive coach because MW clearly isn`t good enough in that department. Another option is to buy defenders who are able to sort it out themselves. |
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Post by spongeparr on Dec 31, 2019 11:59:14 GMT
Agree with that.
Totally disagree with people continuing to say that us passing out is what's costing us.
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Post by BrightonR on Dec 31, 2019 12:39:23 GMT
Agree with that. Totally disagree with people continuing to say that us passing out is what's costing us. It’s not the idea of passing out that’s the problem so much as the ridiculous way we go about it. The continual pissing about at the back with the ball going nowhere which, rather than leading to an effective forward pass, we seem to end up playing ourselves into a situation where we then have no option but to boot it long or risk giving it away in a dangerous position. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Dec 31, 2019 12:43:55 GMT
We are only passing about at the back for so long because there is fuck all movement up front.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 31, 2019 12:49:50 GMT
Agree with that. Totally disagree with people continuing to say that us passing out is what's costing us. It’s not the idea of passing out that’s the problem so much as the ridiculous way we go about it. The continual pissing about at the back with the ball going nowhere which, rather than leading to an effective forward pass, we seem to end up playing ourselves into a situation where we then have no option but to boot it long or risk giving it away in a dangerous position. Couldn't agree more with that and said almost exactly that to West during match. Have posted before that we don't have the movement to play out but against Hull Chair and Wells were making some good runs only for our other failing to kick in - we can't pass well enough. I'd love us to play like Man City but we're not good enough and it puts pressure on the whole team. And even City put free kicks in the box where we are obsessed with playing it short, back and across. |
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 12:56:49 GMT
We are 132 years old and have played 23 seasons in the top flight. We need to get over this believe that we have an incredible history of playing top flight football. It'll be nice if we get there again - and we will do one day - but we are at our 'natural station' and if you expected different then you haven't paid attention to our history. Sure SWL, I get that. However how many seasons have played in the top flight since 1968 - the last 52 years? Wouldn't the answer to that question give a bit more balance to your post? Spot on Stan does change the stats a bit that doesn't it |
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 12:57:36 GMT
3 centre backs Shan is that not what Holloway did so badly ?
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 12:58:35 GMT
For 25 matches every week
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 13:00:06 GMT
We only need a goalkeeper and two defender
Can we get that bloke back we sold to Leicester he was a good right back ? Bit of a ladies. Man but was in our promotion team
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 13:00:46 GMT
He was solis for us and could probes still do a job can't remember his name
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 31, 2019 13:04:24 GMT
Simpson. Playing in league 1
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 13:10:01 GMT
Bet he's better than Our current right back though 77 mate
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 13:10:59 GMT
Could prob get him for nothing more than a membership to Hypodrome night club
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Post by The General on Dec 31, 2019 13:11:35 GMT
Those were the days aghhh
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Post by spongeparr on Dec 31, 2019 13:53:52 GMT
Agree with that. Totally disagree with people continuing to say that us passing out is what's costing us. It’s not the idea of passing out that’s the problem so much as the ridiculous way we go about it. The continual pissing about at the back with the ball going nowhere which, rather than leading to an effective forward pass, we seem to end up playing ourselves into a situation where we then have no option but to boot it long or risk giving it away in a dangerous position. Agree and disagree. Ill elaborate: Agree - lack of movement. Far too often we do not have people making runs in behind the defence. BOS goes through phases but he wants it at his feet. Eze doesn't run in behind either. We have a lot of players that want the ball at their feed and then cannot create due to the lack of movement. I noticed Manning didn't get forward in the last game either so we missed the overlapping runs. Disagree: Just because there is the lack of movement, why should we then just hoof it long and lose possesion? The other team cannot score if we have the ball and it is so much more energy sapping running around without the ball so why make it easy and give it back? Also, the passing forward stuff ... fans groan if we give the ball away yet moan when we pass it around. I dont like passing for passings sake, I think Amos, Ball and Cameron should be more positive and get the ball on the half turn rather than from one centre back to wing back etc. I maintain that us fans can be a problem due to our lack of patience on the ball. Maybe if we kept a clean sheet we would be more trustworthy or had a keeper that wasnt so prone to silly mistakes. |
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