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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 30, 2019 15:40:32 GMT
Remember when Alan mullery upset the fans,you might want to get public transport to games if we don't win soon 😊
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Post by esoxlucius on Dec 30, 2019 16:57:54 GMT
Load of bollocks. Fans with even half a brain know how well he is doing with the materials he has.
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 30, 2019 19:12:43 GMT
Load of bollocks. Fans with even half a brain know how well he is doing with the materials he has. I beg to differ, and apparently both hemispheres present. Even when he's been with clubs with a better squad it hasn't really worked out, has it? There are basic things we STILL just don't do. Not skill things, smart things, organisational things. Then again the Fernandes / Les regime has been distinguished mainly by awful, short sighted managerial appointments. Good candidates have been available at different times when we've been looking, guys who at that point in their career would have seriously considered coming here (Potter, Bilic, Pearson to name but three. There are plenty more.) None of this is hindsight, it was all said at the time. |
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Post by Bill on Dec 30, 2019 19:40:17 GMT
In any profession you cant keep making the same mistakes,if you do your history.
MW done a great job with the tools available but needs support from the board finacially and be able to change his tactics effectivly but history shows he cant.
Conclusion it will end in tears
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Post by hubble on Dec 30, 2019 19:45:32 GMT
It's just one happy little optimistic club on here ain't it.
😂
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Post by Rangers77 on Dec 30, 2019 20:09:39 GMT
He is struggling to set up a team defensively. If that doesn't improve he's going to be out. It's that simple.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 21:04:42 GMT
He is struggling to set up a team defensively. If that doesn't improve he's going to be out. It's that simple. The concern has to be no improvement defensively from day one and the inability to set us up in a more solid fashion. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Dec 30, 2019 21:09:22 GMT
We are simply not getting the points our dominant displays warrant.
Because we can't defend properly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 21:15:23 GMT
We are simply not getting the points our dominant displays warrant. Because we can't defend properly. Over one or two games you can accept but not over half a season. |
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Post by Corbray on Dec 30, 2019 21:43:48 GMT
9 wins out of 27 according to wikipedia, macca had a better record than that here!
for the record i'm not saying that he should be sacked right now but he must be held accountable for the constant errors, lack of organization and deterioration in our playstyle and the results with them. teams seem to have figured us out and now our results are based simply on how well eze plays that game. when he plays well, the rest of the team feeds off of it and can create chances but when he's choked out of the game no one else in the squad is able to step up.
its not that we have bad players, we don't. they're being set up wrong and no work seems to be happening on the training ground. warbs must change what he's doing or else he will find himself out of the job.
he claims to have taken a year out of the game to develop himself as a manager and find out various techniques and tactics for his arsenal. where has ANY of that been employed? its the same stuff over and over
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Post by esoxlucius on Dec 31, 2019 0:12:55 GMT
Fucking short termism is what's killing the club slowly. Fans shitting themselves when it is going wrong.
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 31, 2019 0:33:36 GMT
Forest sacked him after 37 games. At that stage he was averaging 1.30 ppg. Forest were 14th.
We've had him for 30: 1.17 ppg and we're 15th. Forest then had a run of questionable appointments (including bringing back a club legend, we know all about those) before making a farsighted one, and they're doing well.
The point of all this is that in this day and age it's nonsense to think of manager's position in terms of years when things start going wrong (for whatever reason).
I sympathise with anyone working with our board and dof - even when they've chosen to do so - but we are where we are because basic management failings have not been addressed. The irony is that MW has shown that we have the makings of a decent side, but its been a strangely half arsed production. I would give him time to sort it, but if things haven't improved by mid feb we could be in danger of leaving it too late.
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Post by esoxlucius on Dec 31, 2019 0:56:17 GMT
Forest sacked him after 37 games. At that stage he was averaging 1.30 ppg. Forest were 14th. We've had him for 30: 1.17 ppg and we're 15th. Forest then had a run of questionable appointments (including bringing back a club legend, we know all about those) before making a farsighted one, and they're doing well. The point of all this is that in this day and age it's nonsense to think of manager's position in terms of years when things start going wrong (for whatever reason). I sympathise with anyone working with our board and dof - even when they've chosen to do so - but we are where we are because basic management failings have not been addressed. The irony is that MW has shown that we have the makings of a decent side, but its been a strangely half arsed production. I would give him time to sort it, but if things haven't improved by mid feb we could be in danger of leaving it too late. Too late for what? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 8:56:55 GMT
Forest sacked him after 37 games. At that stage he was averaging 1.30 ppg. Forest were 14th. We've had him for 30: 1.17 ppg and we're 15th. Forest then had a run of questionable appointments (including bringing back a club legend, we know all about those) before making a farsighted one, and they're doing well. The point of all this is that in this day and age it's nonsense to think of manager's position in terms of years when things start going wrong (for whatever reason). I sympathise with anyone working with our board and dof - even when they've chosen to do so - but we are where we are because basic management failings have not been addressed. The irony is that MW has shown that we have the makings of a decent side, but its been a strangely half arsed production. I would give him time to sort it, but if things haven't improved by mid feb we could be in danger of leaving it too late. Too late for what? Keep losing games by making the same mistakes and not addressing them would leave us and him in a very delicate position as we cannot afford to play attractive football and get relegated. Can we be relegated? Yes we can if we keep defending as we have been. |
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Post by spongeparr on Dec 31, 2019 10:59:13 GMT
Forest sacked him after 37 games. At that stage he was averaging 1.30 ppg. Forest were 14th. We've had him for 30: 1.17 ppg and we're 15th. Forest then had a run of questionable appointments (including bringing back a club legend, we know all about those) before making a farsighted one, and they're doing well. The point of all this is that in this day and age it's nonsense to think of manager's position in terms of years when things start going wrong (for whatever reason). I sympathise with anyone working with our board and dof - even when they've chosen to do so - but we are where we are because basic management failings have not been addressed. The irony is that MW has shown that we have the makings of a decent side, but its been a strangely half arsed production. I would give him time to sort it, but if things haven't improved by mid feb we could be in danger of leaving it too late. Forest are a much larger club with a lot more money to spend. We aren't as attractive as they are/were. Warbs is doing well but agreed, he needs a defenisve coach in. Having to score 3 goals to win a game everytime is daft but I do like the football we are playing. It is still more fun to go and watch now than it was over the past few years. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Dec 31, 2019 12:42:03 GMT
It is still more fun to go and watch now than it was over the past few years. This time last season we were 8th and had only lost 5 in the last 21 league games. Although I'd love to erase the months that followed, we were a decent team to watch for a fair period (4 months) of that season. |
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Post by spongeparr on Dec 31, 2019 14:03:13 GMT
Yeah agreed we went through a good spell last year but we played badly in defeat. This time, we aren't playing badly in defeat, we are just making stupid errors. Id love to see a table of player mistakes costing goals, I bet we would be top 3.
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Post by Bill on Dec 31, 2019 14:57:10 GMT
Yeah agreed we went through a good spell last year but we played badly in defeat. This time, we aren't playing badly in defeat, we are just making stupid errors. Id love to see a table of player mistakes costing goals, I bet we would be top 3. Exactly this just tighten at the back new keeper and maybe CB and we be much better defensivly |
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 31, 2019 17:16:08 GMT
Yeah agreed we went through a good spell last year but we played badly in defeat. This time, we aren't playing badly in defeat, we are just making stupid errors. Id love to see a table of player mistakes costing goals, I bet we would be top 3. We'd be top 1 mate, I'd have my mortgage on it. Individual errors have cost us a ridiculous amount of points this season! |
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 31, 2019 18:16:23 GMT
Quote in Mush's last post quoting Sponge quoting me.....
Just to be clear - I never said that.
The inline quoting on pb boards sucks, shit happens etc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 18:39:48 GMT
Yeah agreed we went through a good spell last year but we played badly in defeat. This time, we aren't playing badly in defeat, we are just making stupid errors. Id love to see a table of player mistakes costing goals, I bet we would be top 3. Exactly this just tighten at the back new keeper and maybe CB and we be much better defensivly Not sure we would be much better defensively as none of his previous sides were that good defensively. I just do not think he has too much regard for that side of the game. To be fair to him most of his teams were easy on the eye but he still found himself moved on. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 1, 2020 2:20:31 GMT
Quote in Mush's last post quoting Sponge quoting me.....
Just to be clear - I never said that.
The inline quoting on pb boards sucks, shit happens etc. Yea, just noticed that too. Fixed it now. Normally do so but missed that one. |
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