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Post by James1979 on Feb 19, 2021 8:01:16 GMT
Seems to have found some form again. Gotta say though, I'm not convinced he's worth another deal. Injury prone, blows hot and cold. We have no obvious first choice left back in the squad for me. Top of the list of areas we need to strengthen. Well, I’d only get rid of him if we sign at least 1 replacement beforehand. We’ve seen our other left back play this season.....
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 19, 2021 9:22:38 GMT
Seems to have found some form again. Gotta say though, I'm not convinced he's worth another deal. Injury prone, blows hot and cold. We have no obvious first choice left back in the squad for me. Top of the list of areas we need to strengthen. Well, I’d only get rid of him if we sign at least 1 replacement beforehand. We’ve seen our other left back play this season..... Exactly. Until you buy another (as good and younger) LB I wouldn't even contemplate letting him go - and even then I'd rather keep him as backup. He is a cut above Niko, and again, his experience and squad influence is invaluable - a point that so often gets underestimated. We're seeing the player we bought now.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 19, 2021 9:28:04 GMT
I don't get the Niko hate, I think he's been alright whenever he's played this season. That said, Wallace has been much better in recent games so keep him on.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 19, 2021 9:30:57 GMT
It's not hate in the slightest mate. He's just not YET as good as Wallace. IMO.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 19, 2021 9:33:09 GMT
It's not hate in the slightest mate. He's just not YET as good as Wallace. IMO. Ok hate might be a bit strong actually, though I've seen some unwarranted comments on social media and all that. Criticism might be a better word
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 19, 2021 9:42:11 GMT
It's not hate in the slightest mate. He's just not YET as good as Wallace. IMO. Ok hate might be a bit strong actually, though I've seen some unwarranted comments on social media and all that. Criticism might be a better word Oh no surprise there Ginge WRT anti-social media.😬 I don't even look at that crap so it's just not in my orbit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 10:23:53 GMT
Lee Wallace has provided much better protection to our defensive Achilles Heel than either Nico or Manning.
The signing of Stefan Johansen could also be seen to strengthen the team significantly on that side of the pitch.
Wallace would be a big loss if injury keeps him out of the Bournemouth game especially listening to Woodgates interview after their win over Rotherham
“ all of our goals have come via our F/Bs / wide positions since I came to Bournemouth “
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 19, 2021 11:40:59 GMT
The elephant in the room is Wallace will be 34 in the summer and has been very injury prone since his late 20's. He's also one of our higher earners.
Unless he's up for a fairly significant pay cut, a well run club let's him go. Utilise his salary to sign a new 1st team left back and have Niko as backup.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 19, 2021 11:47:59 GMT
15 league starts in 18 months, earning 10 grand a week. No brainer when you look at that. He absolutely should not be getting his contract renewed.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 19, 2021 11:54:46 GMT
He absolutely should not be getting his contract renewed. He's not injured now and is the best LB/LWB at the club. Unless the club have a replacement lined up he absolutely should be kept on, even if on a pay-as-you-play basis. That's the no brainer IMO mate.
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Post by Corbray on Feb 19, 2021 12:07:52 GMT
He absolutely should not be getting his contract renewed. He's not injured now and is the best LB/LWB at the club. Unless the club have a replacement lined up he absolutely should be kept on, even if on a pay-as-you-play basis. That's the no brainer IMO mate. thing is though is we do need a new LB next season regardless and keeping wallace here would be pointless given that we'd already have cover in niko and barbet if need be. wallace would be an unneccesary wage and place in the squad. plus has niko really done anything wrong? he's been steady when called upon and is a good enough backup option who could potentially get better whereas wallace is only gunna get worse.
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Post by Shania on Feb 19, 2021 12:19:31 GMT
Is he a doubt for the game tomorrow?
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 19, 2021 12:38:39 GMT
He's not injured now and is the best LB/LWB at the club. Unless the club have a replacement lined up he absolutely should be kept on, even if on a pay-as-you-play basis. That's the no brainer IMO mate. thing is though is we do need a new LB next season regardless and keeping wallace here would be pointless given that we'd already have cover in niko and barbet if need be. wallace would be an unneccesary wage and place in the squad. plus has niko really done anything wrong? he's been steady when called upon and is a good enough backup option who could potentially get better whereas wallace is only gunna get worse. Exactly how I see it mate. Can't have a guy on 10 grand a week when history tells us he's only ever fit for 1 game out of every 3 or 4 on average, and there is no other clear starter for his position. The way the club is being run these days, we need to reinvest the money being spent on Wallace's salary on someone we can rely on from a fitness perspective. As you say, Niko and Barbet between them offer adequate back up.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Feb 19, 2021 12:39:50 GMT
I don't get the Niko hate, I think he's been alright whenever he's played this season. That said, Wallace has been much better in recent games so keep him on. I think he is a work in progress tbh The clearly do as well as he has recently signed a long deal. Wallace was good the other night and other than that absolute howler mistake against Derby (I blame him for that goal) he has done well since he's been back. I have been pleasantly surprised as I still have my doubts.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 19, 2021 15:05:38 GMT
we do need a new LB next season regardless and keeping wallace here would be pointless given that we'd already have cover in niko and barbet if need be. I fully agree we need a new LB regardless. Wallace however is definitely a better option than Niko IMO and that view is based on having closely watched them both this season. The other point no one has yet mentioned is that MW actually brought on Kakay late in the game as LB, so we have another option there too. He did a decent job which was purely to defend, not be a WB. RB's can play at LB if they know what they're doing. I'd also question the assumption that the club could not afford to keep Wallace on for another year, even on a pay-as-you-play basis. Another assumption being made here is that the club actually intend to buy another LB. Where I agree with you and Tarbs is that one is needed either way. But it would be foolish to just dispose of the best LB at the club until another is lined up. Keep him as backup at least until such time.
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Post by Shania on Feb 19, 2021 15:53:26 GMT
Jordy De Wijs can also play LB.
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Post by James1979 on Feb 19, 2021 16:41:07 GMT
I don't get the Niko hate, I think he's been alright whenever he's played this season. That said, Wallace has been much better in recent games so keep him on. No hate from my side. He’s just not very good. What annoys me is he seems have no drive on the pitch and then can’t mark people from set pieces. 4 year deal was done in panic.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 19, 2021 17:49:18 GMT
we do need a new LB next season regardless and keeping wallace here would be pointless given that we'd already have cover in niko and barbet if need be. I fully agree we need a new LB regardless. Wallace however is definitely a better option than Niko IMO and that view is based on having closely watched them both this season. The other point no one has yet mentioned is that MW actually brought on Kakay late in the game as LB, so we have another option there too. He did a decent job which was purely to defend, not be a WB. RB's can play at LB if they know what they're doing. I'd also question the assumption that the club could not afford to keep Wallace on for another year, even on a pay-as-you-play basis. Another assumption being made here is that the club actually intend to buy another LB. Where I agree with you and Tarbs is that one is needed either way. But it would be foolish to just dispose of the best LB at the club until another is lined up. Keep him as backup at least until such time. So line one up and dispose of Wallace........sorted! 🤣 You've mentioned a pay as you play deal a few times there. If you were Wallace, would you go for that? The football equivalent of being put on an hourly wage. I suspect he'd take his chances on a free myself.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 19, 2021 17:59:45 GMT
You've mentioned a pay as you play deal a few times there. If you were Wallace, would you go for that? It was a suggestion. But I'd offer him another year first. He's earned it. And renegotiate terms, if necessary. However it's all dependent on if we sign another LB, as I said.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 19, 2021 19:05:04 GMT
I disagree that he's earned it mate. He's had at best 10 good performances in a QPR shirt across 2 seasons. We've literally had players hounded out the club who've done more.
I think you're looking at this way to much based on current form than actual good business sense. The fact is, this guy has injury problems, he's expensive, and his best years are behind him. It's the equivalent of trying to convince me that buying a 15 year old Merc is gonna be better for me than a brand new Ford Focus.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 19, 2021 20:33:13 GMT
I think you're looking at this way to much based on current form than actual good business sense. Not really mate. I'm simply looking at it on the basis that: 1) He's currently the best LB at the club. 2) His best performances, of which have been very good, are all his most recent ones. 3) He's currently fit and injury-free. 4) What he brings to a young squad in terms of experience, as well as ability. I respect your view however, and the fact that it's clearly different to mine! The discussion is a bit academic anyway, as the time to decide isn't now, but in the summer.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 20, 2021 17:02:32 GMT
Different player. Amazing turnaround.
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 20, 2021 17:07:42 GMT
Different player. Amazing turnaround. He's really found some form mate. If he can stay clear of injury I'll happily eat my words about whether he's worth another year or not.
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Post by Rangers77 on Mar 20, 2021 17:38:12 GMT
Man. Wears. Black. Boots 👍🏻
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Mar 20, 2021 20:16:17 GMT
Like a different player. The system really suits him and Kaneninio
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Post by 1973ranger on Mar 20, 2021 20:26:58 GMT
Real threat and his delivery is of a high standard
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 2, 2021 7:35:05 GMT
Lee wins POTM:
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 2, 2021 8:01:00 GMT
Thoroughly deserved.
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Post by 1973ranger on May 16, 2021 14:23:09 GMT
Great news signing for another year.
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Post by Tarbie on May 16, 2021 14:26:30 GMT
Great news signing for another year. Strange the timing of that announcement. The commentary on QPR+ announced he'd signed a new deal 2 or 3 weeks back.
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