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Post by Tarbie on Feb 12, 2020 17:52:11 GMT
If the goal drought continues then of course we could be dragged into a dogfight which could mean us going down. If our centre forward starts putting chances away then we should be ok. 3 games since Wells went with no goals makes you fear for us. Easy with that negativity mate. Esox will have you! 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 17:56:27 GMT
If the goal drought continues then of course we could be dragged into a dogfight which could mean us going down. If our centre forward starts putting chances away then we should be ok. 3 games since Wells went with no goals makes you fear for us. Easy with that negativity mate. Esox will have you! 😂 Negativity or factual comment. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 12, 2020 19:06:03 GMT
Easy with that negativity mate. Esox will have you! 😂 Negativity or factual comment. One man's realist is another man's pessimist  |
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Post by Corbray on Feb 12, 2020 19:33:07 GMT
i do think we'll be fine, i can't even see us being dragged into a relegation battle. loads more bad teams than us for certain and even without wells we have players capable of changing a game with a moment of brilliance
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 12, 2020 19:44:04 GMT
i do think we'll be fine, i can't even see us being dragged into a relegation battle. loads more bad teams than us for certain and even without wells we have players capable of changing a game with a moment of brilliance I don't disagree that we should be ok mate. All I'm saying is it isn't unthinkable that we get dragged into it. And at the moment I can't see where the goals are coming from to pick up the required amount of wins. Then again, a few months back I couldn't see us keeping a clean sheet either! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 20:09:05 GMT
i do think we'll be fine, i can't even see us being dragged into a relegation battle. loads more bad teams than us for certain and even without wells we have players capable of changing a game with a moment of brilliance I don't disagree that we should be ok mate. All I'm saying is it isn't unthinkable that we get dragged into it. And at the moment I can't see where the goals are coming from to pick up the required amount of wins. Then again, a few months back I couldn't see us keeping a clean sheet either! Put the chances away and score a few goals then we will be fine. Carry on the drought and we will get dragged down as goals win you games. |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 12, 2020 21:00:14 GMT
Ok I’m playing devils advocate on Wells and Hughill
So wells had 13 for us and were rightly vexed he’s left as feeling is Hughill is not adequate replacement to step up. But three of Wells goals came in one game against Cardiff. Without that hat trick he would have scored one more goal then , the man not up to it, having had more pitch time then him. Not that big a difference when you look at the raw stats
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 12, 2020 21:03:03 GMT
If we don't start replacing Nahki's goals from elsewhere in the team then it's stating the obvious we COULD get dragged into a relegation battle. That's not in the slightest bit a controversial statement, even though it may not be what some wish to hear.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 12, 2020 21:08:01 GMT
Ok I’m playing devils advocate on Wells and Hughill So wells had 13 for us and were rightly vexed he’s left as feeling is Hughill is not adequate replacement to step up. But three of Wells goals came in one game against Cardiff. Without that hat trick he would have scored one more goal then , the man not up to it, having had more pitch time then him. Not that big a difference when you look at the raw stats Stats are stats mate, but I know which of the 2 I'd prefer with a 1 on 1 with the keeper. Wells was so much more a composed finisher. Yeah, Hugill is a handful physically and will chip in with goals, but I don't think him up front on his own is enough against most sides in this league. Maybe need to push up 1 of Eze, BOS or Chair to play off him? |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 12, 2020 21:08:07 GMT
15 in all competitions. More impressively, he didn't start or finish many of those games too. |
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Post by hal9thou on Feb 12, 2020 21:13:21 GMT
If the worst comes to the worst, and I would realistically put that around an 8-1 shot, it will hit them in the pocket. But I'm not even sure if thats too much of a concern re our shareholders.
You can only be a selling club if you don't get gobbled up. Like I said a couple of years ago, a reactionary fiscal policy can be just as destructive as an ill thought out shopping spree. But does it matter either way?
These people - Mittals included - are not in this for the football. Either that or they are remarkably naive, which I don't buy.
It's surprisng, because both Uncle and Mittals could easily run QPR as though on field achievement was the priority. They simply have chosen not to.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 12, 2020 21:17:27 GMT
Ok I’m playing devils advocate on Wells and Hughill So wells had 13 for us and were rightly vexed he’s left as feeling is Hughill is not adequate replacement to step up. But three of Wells goals came in one game against Cardiff. Without that hat trick he would have scored one more goal then , the man not up to it, having had more pitch time then him. Not that big a difference when you look at the raw stats Stats are stats mate, but I know which of the 2 I'd prefer with a 1 on 1 with the keeper. Wells was so much more a composed finisher. Yeah, Hugill is a handful physically and will chip in with goals, but I don't think him up front on his own is enough against most sides in this league. Maybe need to push up 1 of Eze, BOS or Chair to play off him? Tarbs I don’t dispute that and agree but all I’m saying is one game aside actual goals there is not massive gulf between them given he had lion share of game time. Also think we have seen plenty Wells one on one is not clinical |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 21:20:34 GMT
Ok I’m playing devils advocate on Wells and Hughill So wells had 13 for us and were rightly vexed he’s left as feeling is Hughill is not adequate replacement to step up. But three of Wells goals came in one game against Cardiff. Without that hat trick he would have scored one more goal then , the man not up to it, having had more pitch time then him. Not that big a difference when you look at the raw stats Westy. No chance, Wells movement off the ball was a different level to Hugill and as I said on another thread Hugill does not attack the penalty spot or front post. Stats sometimes do not tell the full story and if you were to really dig deep I am sure you could question 2 or 3 of Hugills goals. To have him solely to rely on leaves us vunerable for the rest of the season. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 12, 2020 21:23:26 GMT
Stats are stats mate, but I know which of the 2 I'd prefer with a 1 on 1 with the keeper. Wells was so much more a composed finisher. Yeah, Hugill is a handful physically and will chip in with goals, but I don't think him up front on his own is enough against most sides in this league. Maybe need to push up 1 of Eze, BOS or Chair to play off him? Tarbs I don’t dispute that and agree but all I’m saying is one game aside actual goals there is not massive gulf between them given he had lion share of game time. Also think we have seen plenty Wells one on one is not clinical It's not true that "he had lion share of game time" mate: rfantasyisland.boards.net/post/30268/threadrfantasyisland.boards.net/post/32003/thread |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 12, 2020 21:31:07 GMT
Sorry guys posted this in wrong thread 😊
Stan if those stats are right I stand corrected
73 I agree 100% Wells overall game is better then Hughill with running corners etc I simply saying actual goals there not miles apart less the hat trick
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 21:39:21 GMT
Watch him saturday and his lack of movement in the box and where he is positioned. Matt Smith was a more effective player than Hugill. Not saying but certainly more effetive.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 12, 2020 21:42:58 GMT
Stan if those stats are right I stand corrected Those goal tallies are correct in all competitions. The amount of games depends how you quantify it - for example a striker coming on for the last 5 minutes (and not scoring) would not fairly count as an appearance when totaling a GPG ratio. I therefore took playing a maximum of 60 minutes per game as fair for compiling those stats. |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 12, 2020 21:45:07 GMT
Watch him saturday and his lack of movement in the box and where he is positioned. Matt Smith was a more effective player than Hugill. Not saying but certainly more effetive. agsin don’t disagree with you I’m talking goals mate |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 12, 2020 21:45:55 GMT
Feels like Hughill has spent more time on bench them wells but accept point you make
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 21:49:55 GMT
Last night near the end Manning put a lovely ball in that Cameron missed and the player at the back stick missed but big Hugill was missing in action in the box! For a fellow who is not bad with his head it makes no sense. Maybe he lacks awareness but he needs to do better to affect games.
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Post by 72bus on Feb 13, 2020 1:04:15 GMT
Hugill will score Saturday have a feeling in my bones
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Feb 13, 2020 9:03:33 GMT
Last night near the end Manning put a lovely ball in that Cameron missed and the player at the back stick missed but big Hugill was missing in action in the box! For a fellow who is not bad with his head it makes no sense. Maybe he lacks awareness but he needs to do better to affect games. That was a wonderful ball in. |
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Post by esoxlucius on Feb 13, 2020 9:09:06 GMT
If the goal drought continues then of course we could be dragged into a dogfight which could mean us going down. If our centre forward starts putting chances away then we should be ok. 3 games since Wells went with no goals makes you fear for us. Easy with that negativity mate. Esox will have you! 😂 So I am fair game to be the butt of jokes now? |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Feb 13, 2020 10:43:30 GMT
Easy with that negativity mate. Esox will have you! 😂 So I am fair game to be the butt of jokes now? Apparently so by the looks of it. I am sure you have broad shoulders though so don't take any notice. |
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 13, 2020 10:51:41 GMT
Easy with that negativity mate. Esox will have you! 😂 So I am fair game to be the butt of jokes now? You really gonna make a big deal of a tongue in cheek comment like that? 🤣 |
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Post by esoxlucius on Feb 13, 2020 12:43:18 GMT
So I am fair game to be the butt of jokes now? You really gonna make a big deal of a tongue in cheek comment like that? 🤣 Yeah it's just bants mate, you armchair fan. |
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Post by hal9thou on Feb 13, 2020 13:09:09 GMT
If the worst comes to the worst, and I would realistically put that around an 8-1 shot,
Kinell, 8s? You can get 40s online!
If Harry was still running the show he'd gobble that up as a bit of insurance. Never back against loved ones and all that but 40s..... jeez.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 15, 2020 8:06:36 GMT
See they scored four last night which goes to show what a decent defensive display we put on at theirs as they never had one shot on target against us at home
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2020 10:54:34 GMT
The early goal for Hull opened the game right up.
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