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Post by spongeparr on Aug 24, 2021 10:35:53 GMT
I just can't see it going there. They'll pop it in Y or R blocks.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 24, 2021 10:46:55 GMT
I just can't see it going there. They'll pop it in Y or R blocks. probably would even though the lower loft would be absolutely ideal imo, not just from a historic reason either. i imagine the demand for SS is pretty high but it needs to be in the right place. the lower loft is arguebly the safest place it can be as should any accidents occur there is easy and safe access onto the pitch and also back into the outside of the loft too. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Aug 24, 2021 10:56:28 GMT
cheers for the heads up Acton. will be in the family stand tonight so will seek this out and fill it in. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Aug 24, 2021 11:04:15 GMT
I just can't see it going there. They'll pop it in Y or R blocks. probably would even though the lower loft would be absolutely ideal imo, not just from a historic reason either. i imagine the demand for SS is pretty high but it needs to be in the right place. the lower loft is arguebly the safest place it can be as should any accidents occur there is easy and safe access onto the pitch and also back into the outside of the loft too. there really is too much health and saftey bollocks around these days. no more route master buses, no more standing on terraces. i say screw this safe standing nonsense, bring back normal standing never had any problems standing in the lower loft when i was 8yo. we should we all be punished for 30 bloody years because of what the police did at hillsborough. |
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Post by Corbray on Aug 24, 2021 11:14:39 GMT
probably would even though the lower loft would be absolutely ideal imo, not just from a historic reason either. i imagine the demand for SS is pretty high but it needs to be in the right place. the lower loft is arguebly the safest place it can be as should any accidents occur there is easy and safe access onto the pitch and also back into the outside of the loft too. there really is too much health and saftey bollocks around these days. no more route master buses, no more standing on terraces. i say screw this safe standing nonsense, bring back normal standing never had any problems standing in the lower loft when i was 8yo. we should we all be punished for 30 bloody years because of what the police did at hillsborough. i don't think its punishment lol but of course it does HAVE to be safe and secure. imagine if you have 4000 people standing in the lower loft and then for whatever reason everyone in the back 2 rows falls forward and creates a domino effect of people, including young children. standing at games needs to be done in such a way that if that WERE to happen that the worst injuries were only broken bones and a few gashed heads rather than deaths etc. preparing for the worst case scenario is always the right course of action as it will ensure the safety of everyone. imagine if for example, and god forbid, your child was crushed in a fall at the stadium because the club didn't survey the safe standing section properly and have the proper escapes in place or had too many people packed in. hillsborough was a horrible and tragic event but in hindsight its also something that was bound to happen eventually. the record attendance at loftus road is 35k people. thats an insane figure when you take into account how packed our stadium is with half that number in attendance. i imagine it was a great experience to be part of, don't get me wrong, and one i'm sure many people look back on fondly but would it have been worth it if we had our own hillsbrough? not at all imo. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 24, 2021 11:27:47 GMT
the record attendance at loftus road is 35k people. thats an insane figure when you take into account how packed our stadium is with half that number in attendance. That was in the days before all-seater stadiums Corbs, so our capacity was a lot higher and therefore more able to cope. Your other points are fair though. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 24, 2021 11:32:23 GMT
Just to add, that 35k attendance was a freak one off. Our average attendance in our most successful season was 23-26k in 75/76, which was also way before all-seater stadiums came in. That reduced LR capacity down it's current level.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 24, 2021 11:43:38 GMT
Just to add, that 35k attendance was a freak one off. Our average attendance in our most successful season was 23-26k in 75/76, which was also way before all-seater stadiums came in. That reduced LR capacity down it's current level. What was the attendance on the last game against Leeds mate. I was there that day and it was a sell out. I thought it was about 30k? |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 24, 2021 11:45:51 GMT
Spurs, arsenal and West Ham games in 80s had way more than ground could hold
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Post by Vespa on Aug 24, 2021 11:46:22 GMT
the record attendance at loftus road is 35k people. thats an insane figure when you take into account how packed our stadium is with half that number in attendance. That was in the days before all-seater stadiums Corbs, so our capacity was a lot higher and therefore more able to cope. Your other points are fair though. Also it was the old Loft ,with a much higher capacity than the Loft as we know it know even when it was terracing on the Lower tier . |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 24, 2021 11:50:42 GMT
Just to add, that 35k attendance was a freak one off. Our average attendance in our most successful season was 23-26k in 75/76, which was also way before all-seater stadiums came in. That reduced LR capacity down it's current level. What was the attendance on the last game against Leeds mate. I was there that day and it was a sell out. I thought it was about 30k? That's the game Corbs is referring to: 35,353 vs Leeds United, 27 April 1974, Division 1: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C.#Statistics_and_records |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 24, 2021 11:59:46 GMT
No, it was the season after in the 75/76 season where we nearly won it I am talking about. That was the first season I started going so I remember it well. Glory hunter or what  |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 24, 2021 12:07:22 GMT
No, it was the season after in the 75/76 season where we nearly won it I am talking about. That was the first season I started going so I remember it well. Glory hunter or what Oh, that was 31,002 mate. My first season too  |
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Post by Corbray on Aug 24, 2021 12:22:42 GMT
the record attendance at loftus road is 35k people. thats an insane figure when you take into account how packed our stadium is with half that number in attendance. That was in the days before all-seater stadiums Corbs, so our capacity was a lot higher and therefore more able to cope. Your other points are fair though. what was the capacity of the stadium around that time though? i get that you can cram more people in with standing but i bet 35k packed into loftus road resembled an open tin of sardines lol. obviously it was a different time and nearly 50 years ago so its pointless debating it now. my reasoning on us having 35k people in the ground is that it could have easily been a hillsborough too assuming that it was so packed |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 24, 2021 12:33:00 GMT
what was the capacity of the stadium around that time though? I imagine that was it - around 35k. my reasoning on us having 35k people in the ground is that it could have easily been a hillsborough too assuming that it was so packed No, as we've never had fencing (unlike Hillsborough). Fans would easily have been able to come onto the pitch (had there been a large push from behind). Big difference. I'm not trying to negate your other points above which, as I say, are all fair. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 24, 2021 12:40:46 GMT
the record attendance at loftus road is 35k people. thats an insane figure when you take into account how packed our stadium is with half that number in attendance. That was in the days before all-seater stadiums Corbs, so our capacity was a lot higher and therefore more able to cope. Your other points are fair though. I was there and I don’t recall it being any sort of issue at the time. I don’t think it was all ticket either, so they just kept allowing in all the walk-ups. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Aug 24, 2021 13:26:48 GMT
there really is too much health and saftey bollocks around these days. no more route master buses, no more standing on terraces. i say screw this safe standing nonsense, bring back normal standing never had any problems standing in the lower loft when i was 8yo. we should we all be punished for 30 bloody years because of what the police did at hillsborough. i don't think its punishment lol corbs, i have permanent scars on my knees from those seats 😥😥 |
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Post by Hitman34 on Aug 24, 2021 13:30:28 GMT
That was in the days before all-seater stadiums Corbs, so our capacity was a lot higher and therefore more able to cope. Your other points are fair though. I was there and I don’t recall it being any sort of issue at the time. I don’t think it was all ticket either, so they just kept allowing in all the walk-ups. yep. even in the late 80s it was always walk ups. once at the top of the terrace, always remember my old man saying to me "elbows out now" before heading down to the barrier infront of the goal. |
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Post by Corbray on Aug 24, 2021 13:40:10 GMT
i don't think its punishment lol corbs, i have permanent scars on my knees from those seats 😥😥 fair too actually and me too. i'm changing my stance on mass standing, if it does go tits up then at least i can use my son to cushion my fall or as a step to get over the advertising boards |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 24, 2021 13:50:33 GMT
No, it was the season after in the 75/76 season where we nearly won it I am talking about. That was the first season I started going so I remember it well. Glory hunter or what Oh, that was 31,002 mate. My first season too I suspect a lot of us were attracted by that wonderful team. I had been following from about 1973 but that was the first season we went. I was 11 |
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Post by Hitman34 on Aug 24, 2021 13:58:23 GMT
corbs, i have permanent scars on my knees from those seats 😥😥 fair too actually and me too. i'm changing my stance on mass standing, if it does go tits up then at least i can use my son to cushion my fall or as a step to get over the advertising boards lol. #softlandings |
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Post by spongeparr on Aug 29, 2021 12:58:17 GMT
Looks like government is going to look at allowing rail standing.
Need it in away ends as well though, really.
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Post by 1qprdk on Aug 29, 2021 13:12:46 GMT
Need it in away ends as well though, really. Not R´s innit? |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 29, 2021 15:52:14 GMT
Safe standing can’t work at kp stadium. People will get shin splints or torn tendons with the leg room between seats, in fact it could be possible to actually loose a leg over course of season rubbing up down shit plastic seats.
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Post by 72bus on Aug 30, 2021 8:55:31 GMT
A hot tea or Bovril was very dangerous in the old loft . If u tried to hold on to your cup when we scored you'd get 3rd degree burns .so you'd throw it up in the air and hope no one saw you
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Post by Bill on Aug 30, 2021 14:06:02 GMT
I can remember when Man u were up there and darts bottles you name it were being thrown our first season in the old 1st div 69-70
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 13, 2021 12:05:05 GMT
The results are in www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/rail-seating-survey-update-131021/The full list is shown here: Lower Tier Loftus Road Stand – 2,381 (74.13%) Ellerslie Road Stand – 360 (11.21%) Upper Tier Loftus Road Stand – 191 (5.95%) West Paddocks – 117 (3.64%) East Paddocks – 86 (2.68%) South Africa Road Stand – 77 (2.40%) |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 13, 2021 13:14:52 GMT
He says he listens so how much clearer does Lee Hoos need it to show fans want a home ‘end’ back? The lower Loft as it is needs to go.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 13, 2021 13:23:11 GMT
He says he listens so how much clearer does Lee Hoos need it to show fans want a home ‘end’ back? The lower Loft as it is needs to go. Alan, I've raised this with him at every SCC meeting for the last three years. I think the penny will eventually drop. At the last meeting (in September) he did seem more receptive to the idea. He is at least listening and engaging on the matter. |
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 13, 2021 15:10:34 GMT
The family stand idea is a great one. My nephews have been and loved it, they do so much for it to be exciting for the kids and it's great. Obviously, going lower loft was a mistake but it's not as simple as just moving.
Where do they move to? Paddocks would be the logical option from my perspective. Put a cheap roof over the seats and then move those in the paddocks. THough you will upset a lot of people. Not sure how many ST are in the paddocks but it seems to make a lot more sense for kids to go there. Plus, less chance of a ball smashing a kid in the face. Safe standing in lower loft and hopefully it'll be really noisy.
Y and X block has really grown since it's inception and I dont think it's detracted too much from QPR blocks either? Someone could correct me though. Be a shame to lose the Y block, as its good fun having a section next to the away fans.
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