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Post by Ginger Ninja on Mar 22, 2019 12:47:28 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Mar 22, 2019 13:07:17 GMT
It’s when we don’t expect nothing following this club that we get an unexpected surprise ie Warnock promotion season who saw that coming
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Mar 22, 2019 13:17:37 GMT
It’s when we don’t expect nothing following this club that we get an unexpected surprise ie Warnock promotion season who saw that coming So true. That was right out of the blue.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Mar 22, 2019 15:49:36 GMT
It’s when we don’t expect nothing following this club that we get an unexpected surprise ie Warnock promotion season who saw that coming I certainly didn't, especially as the previous season he was saving us from relegation.
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Post by acricketer on Mar 22, 2019 19:39:23 GMT
We need to get Delta Rabata for next season. (It's an anagram)
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Post by West Acton on Mar 22, 2019 19:48:28 GMT
If the penalty now for breaching FFP is now points deduction think more sides will think fuck it that’s worth the risk let’s go for broke
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Post by BrightonR on Mar 22, 2019 20:31:35 GMT
If the penalty now for breaching FFP is now points deduction think more sides will think fuck it that’s worth the risk let’s go for broke Unless it’s a case of “the more you spend, the more points get deducted”. 😄
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Post by acricketer on Mar 22, 2019 22:09:48 GMT
If fair play is really the principle, football is fucked.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 29, 2019 11:44:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 11:59:38 GMT
Bournemouth have shown small clubs that are well run and managed can succeed in the promise land. Howe has done a brilliant job on the pitch and with the recruitment which means they have a chance of winning the bottom 8 league each season.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 29, 2019 15:32:53 GMT
I think the chance of us being one of the first to go are remote.
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Post by Shania on Apr 29, 2019 16:10:11 GMT
So Kevin Reeves is a QPR scout at all. Interesting. He is good.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Apr 29, 2019 16:51:21 GMT
I think the chance of us being one of the first to go are remote. I don't think we will be the first, but if clubs start to go I fear we'll be among the first few to go. We all know it's coming - to football, not us - and there'll be more than one. I don't disagree with you there but I just don't think it will be us. I am in denial
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Post by West Acton on Apr 29, 2019 17:15:38 GMT
Bournemouth have shown small clubs that are well run and managed can succeed in the promise land. Howe has done a brilliant job on the pitch and with the recruitment which means they have a chance of winning the bottom 8 league each season. Not sure I agree 73. Bournemouth breached FFP going up and have spent quite a bit since promotion. There doing well but they rolled dice , like others, but have won. Suspect if/when they drop they will be in the shit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 17:56:50 GMT
But where they are ahead is the players brought in are all sellable for profit. Brooks, Wilson, Ake, King to name 4. Yes they rolled the dice but it was a calculated risk.
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Post by lymehoop on Apr 29, 2019 17:57:23 GMT
there has to be some sanity with players wages or we will lose half the Football League
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 29, 2019 19:15:16 GMT
there has to be some sanity with players wages or we will lose half the Football League Absolutely mate. The only issue with that is the gulf between the top clubs and the rest will continue to get bigger. Once again, we've dropped out of the Prem at totally the worst time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 19:18:44 GMT
The feeling I have right now reminds me of Chris Wright's era where we spent big early on then as time went on the standard of player got worse as the months and years went by. Our only hope for the future is the youth set up.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 29, 2019 19:21:58 GMT
its depressing but this is the way football needs to be regulated to protect clubs. sure it could be done better and more fair to smaller clubs/non prem teams but i'd rather have a club than no club at all. clubs were hemorraging money at an alarming rate and were putting themselves into serious trouble down the line and there needed to be something done about that. fortunately though for us we were one of the first clubs to truly get on board with it and it'll work out much better in the long term imo. in a few years we'll be far more stable whereas other big spending sides like aston villa and nottingham forest will struggle due to FFP regulations but its all in the best interest of clubs long term futures
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 29, 2019 19:54:07 GMT
But where they are ahead is the players brought in are all sellable for profit. Brooks, Wilson, Ake, King to name 4. Yes they rolled the dice but it was a calculated risk. Agreed mate, wright did spend big, on utter shit. Over a million quid on a fella with a broken leg. Another mil plus on a fella that could not play on grass.... Then tbere was osborne and others who were utter shyte. Now we have head clown who has done the same all over again but on a grander scale. Personally thought flav did a good job. Yes he was a nut but he was hands fucking on and steering the ship. We would probably be way better off now if he still owned the club.
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 29, 2019 19:55:05 GMT
Soz, was ment to quote your last post on this thread
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 29, 2019 19:57:33 GMT
its depressing but this is the way football needs to be regulated to protect clubs. sure it could be done better and more fair to smaller clubs/non prem teams but i'd rather have a club than no club at all. clubs were hemorraging money at an alarming rate and were putting themselves into serious trouble down the line and there needed to be something done about that. fortunately though for us we were one of the first clubs to truly get on board with it and it'll work out much better in the long term imo. in a few years we'll be far more stable whereas other big spending sides like aston villa and nottingham forest will struggle due to FFP regulations but its all in the best interest of clubs long term futures Are there ffp regulations in the prem league. I never hear about prem clubs breaking rules through spending?
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Post by Corbray on Apr 29, 2019 20:51:47 GMT
its depressing but this is the way football needs to be regulated to protect clubs. sure it could be done better and more fair to smaller clubs/non prem teams but i'd rather have a club than no club at all. clubs were hemorraging money at an alarming rate and were putting themselves into serious trouble down the line and there needed to be something done about that. fortunately though for us we were one of the first clubs to truly get on board with it and it'll work out much better in the long term imo. in a few years we'll be far more stable whereas other big spending sides like aston villa and nottingham forest will struggle due to FFP regulations but its all in the best interest of clubs long term futures Are there ffp regulations in the prem league. I never hear about prem clubs breaking rules through spending? there are but its a different kettle of fish up there and the premier league is run seperately to the football league. each premier league club gets something like 200m each over the course of 3 years from 2019-22 from tv rights alone. then you've got other private sponsorships, ticket sales, prize money and whatever else etc and its easy to see how a small team like bournemouth for example could easily earn 100m a season from that alone and can thus afford to spend and demand big bucks on players. thats why callum wilson was being touted as a 40m player and why average players like andre grey and solanke went for inflated prices. money isn't an issue up there. in the championship we don't have the same luxury with tv rights, the league gets 600m spread over 5 years to be divided between the 24 clubs which works out to something like 5m each a season. theres a massive difference in tv rights alone between the two leagues and that affects other things like sponsorships too
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 18:31:51 GMT
Tarbie. What happens when there is no one left to sell?
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 18:36:11 GMT
Tarbie. What happens when there is no one left to sell? Won't happen mate. The last of the high earners will go this window. Contracts offered in the last 2 seasons (with the possible exception of Freeman's renewal), all fit within a wage structure that we can afford........as long as fans keep showing up to matches!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 18:37:59 GMT
Lower paid players usually means lesser quality and we sailed closed to the wind these past two seasons.
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 18:44:25 GMT
Lower paid players usually means lesser quality and we sailed closed to the wind these past two seasons. Definitely lesser quality players coming in mate. Warburton will need to earn his crust this season......see what I did there?!! I have to be honest though, I think we were hamstrung by Ollie 2 seasons ago. The squad was far better than it's league position. And last year we were flying high until we had a few injuries, gaps in the squad became exposed and McClaren totally lost his stomach for it. This season we need the squad to be a little better than the sum of it's parts, rather than the other way around (as we've been used to since Warnock left)!
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 24, 2019 18:46:08 GMT
Lower paid players usually means lesser quality and we sailed closed to the wind these past two seasons. True. We'll have to get any quality in on loan or unearth a couple of gems. Warbs has his work cut out.
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Post by hal9thou on Jun 25, 2019 11:29:41 GMT
Tarbie. What happens when there is no one left to sell? .......as long as fans keep showing up to matches! That's the problem right there. You could actually end up less well off by sticking to the poundland regime. You could equally well spend regardless and end up better off........
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 25, 2019 11:34:51 GMT
.......as long as fans keep showing up to matches! That's the problem right there. You could actually end up less well off by sticking to the poundland regime. You could equally well spend regardless and end up better off........ FFP basically forces a clubs hand to live within their means these days mate. Of course, it's going to hurt us more than a lot of other clubs at our level as a result of mistakes made in the past, and because we need an inflated level of wages for all the staff Tony needs on the payroll to cover for his own inadequacies. But effectively all clubs are in the same boat. The quality of players they can afford will be dictated by the amount of revenue they can raise from sponsorship, match day revenue and player sales!
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