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Post by West Acton on Jan 21, 2020 10:54:11 GMT
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 21, 2020 16:21:18 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Jan 24, 2020 11:49:20 GMT
Chickens starting to come home to roost. If villa go down thru could be the new Leeds
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jan 24, 2020 12:04:42 GMT
Chickens starting to come home to roost. If villa go down thru could be the new Leeds I am desperate for them to go down but Grealish seems to be single-handedly trying to thwart my wish. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 27, 2020 12:54:24 GMT
This is becoming tedious and a noose round the clubs neck.How much longer are we going to pay for our so called breach of these pathetic rules.
This is especially true in light of the situation we now find ourselves in re Wells and recent sanctions imposed on other clubs.
Rangers you really need to get your fingers out and fight this case again as the original findings and sentence are disproportionate.
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 27, 2020 13:00:06 GMT
This is becoming tedious and a noose round the clubs neck.How much longer are we going to pay for our so called breach of these pathetic rules. This is especially true in light of the situation we now find ourselves in re Wells and recent sanctions imposed on other clubs. Rangers you really need to get your fingers out and fight this case again as the original findings and sentence are disproportionate. They settled on the current deal with EFL, so not much we can fight really. And our deal wasn´t too bad either. Out of the total fine of almost 42M, they only have to pay 17M directly to EFL, 3M went to their lawyers, and the rest, almost 22M, went back into the club. www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/qpr-settle-ffp-dispute-with-efl/ |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 27, 2020 15:56:38 GMT
And that 17 million is spread over a lot of years as well. We done very well out of it.
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Post by Bill on Jan 27, 2020 17:30:10 GMT
This is becoming tedious and a noose round the clubs neck.How much longer are we going to pay for our so called breach of these pathetic rules. This is especially true in light of the situation we now find ourselves in re Wells and recent sanctions imposed on other clubs.[br Rangers you really need to get yourfingers out and fight this case again as the original findings and sentence are disproportionate. They settled on the current deal with EFL, so not much we can fight really. And our deal wasn´t too bad either. Out of the total fine of almost 42M, they only have to pay 17M directly to EFL, 3M went to their lawyers, and the rest, almost 22M, went back into the club. www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/qpr-settle-ffp-dispute-with-efl/Ok but it is still disproportionate compared to say Brum among others,think we have been well and truly screwed. Surely we could appeal on these grounds. Surely we could try on these grounds |
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 27, 2020 18:11:32 GMT
As I understand it, a settlement means both parties give up on any further claims they may have on the issue in question. But maybe you know something I don't?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2020 21:23:59 GMT
All a restriction on trade. Clubs need to get together and launch legal action.
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Post by Bill on Jan 30, 2020 21:29:31 GMT
You can stick ffp up your arse good song for Saturday
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2020 21:35:27 GMT
Why should u only be able to recruit staff a short period of a year. Obviously this strict rule doesn't effect us lol
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Post by The General on Dec 3, 2020 20:35:11 GMT
Where are we with this are we a club that is now allowed to spend some money at last  Can someone clarify this without war and peace if possible Thanks |
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 3, 2020 21:49:41 GMT
FFP and P&S rules were relaxed somewhat early on in the year which gave more leeway during last summer's window. However it was only intended as a temporary measure iirc, whilst we're in the midst of the pandemic. Don't think anything's changed since then. Can't recall any more detail than that without googling it.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Dec 4, 2020 11:13:17 GMT
I imagine this just plugs a shortfall that no club could have envisaged so a kind of 'as you were' now.
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Post by manti on Dec 4, 2020 18:42:48 GMT
I wouldn't have thought any club has cash to spend right now with no income coming in.
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Post by rscot on Dec 4, 2020 19:16:03 GMT
I’ve no idea about the financial position of the club. But I’m pretty sure that you are paying better wages than anyone up here in Scotland other then Rangers and Celtic, and this is probably true concerning many leagues in Europe. See if a player here in Scotland is too good for say Hibernian, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock etc but he isn’t deemed good enough for either of the Old Firm, he’s nowhere to go up here to progress in his career. If QPR are looking to add a few good, experienced pros, on free transfers, I’m sure there are a good number who’d jump at the opportunity, all over Europe.
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Post by Greg1882 on Dec 4, 2020 23:18:47 GMT
Unfortunately being a Club playing in an inefficient stadium in one of the most expensive parts of the country will hold us back spending wise for the foreseeable I’d imagine. That’s why we have to move if this ffp bollocks is a long term thing. As much as I love hq it’s just a money pit. We need to be generating money 52 weeks of the year. Ffp was designed to protect clubs after pompey and Wimbledon but it also keeps them where they are if that makes sense. I like the fact we are a more sustainable club now it’s how it should be but it’s an absolute liberty that clubs like derby for example get to sell the stadium for over inflated prices and pump it back in and blind eyes are turned not that it’s doing them any favours which is fucking hilarious. It seems like there’s one rule for one and another set for others. I’d like to think we’re not in a bad position financially at present but we’ve still got to sell our better players to balance the books. I’d like to know the ins and outs because similar sized clubs don’t seem to have the same financial issues. Guess we are still paying for the disgraceful mismanagement when Tony came in. He’s got away with that very lightly in my opinion
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Post by rscot on Dec 5, 2020 11:07:39 GMT
Just out of interest, does QPR have a Supporters Trust?
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 5, 2020 11:11:48 GMT
Just out of interest, does QPR have a Supporters Trust? Yes: QPR1st |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 5, 2020 13:17:00 GMT
Cant we get a billy graham gig at hq again,he packed place b4,costs be cheaper as don't need a stage now ,just a small table and a spirit board 😊
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 20, 2021 0:20:35 GMT
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Post by acricketer on Jan 20, 2021 2:34:15 GMT
Can't see any harm in asking. Don't think it will change anything though.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 20, 2021 5:55:08 GMT
That will be Derby disagreeing
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 20, 2021 10:12:36 GMT
Yeah it's a bit late to be moaning about this now.
It was us who chose to go down the arb route in the first place, remember? Lee Hoos and the board. Same people who walked in eyes wide shut.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 20, 2021 10:45:56 GMT
You don't ask, you don't get.
If they say no, then we lose nothing. If they agree, then it's a result. But the EFL needs the money from us as much as we need to keep that money, so I can't see them agreeing.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 20, 2021 11:04:30 GMT
Yeah it's a bit late to be moaning about this now. It was us who chose to go down the arb route in the first place, remember? Lee Hoos and the board. Same people who walked in eyes wide shut. same route plenty fans were suggesting to go down again most recent window by saying spend |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 20, 2021 14:10:45 GMT
Yeah it's a bit late to be moaning about this now. It was us who chose to go down the arb route in the first place, remember? Lee Hoos and the board. Same people who walked in eyes wide shut. same route plenty fans were suggesting to go down again most recent window by saying spend
No it's not. Plenty of people have suggested allocating existing resources differently (ie DoF and so called coaching staff expenditure) and there is certainly a case for spending to avoid the financial hit of relegation.
Apart from anything else, since we got into trouble the whole FFP scenario has changed and is evolving (which is partly why we're whingeing about our harsh treatment now) and secondly the financial rewards of promotion have massively changed.
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 20, 2021 19:03:07 GMT
I think we are absolutely correct to go down this route. If you compare our punishment for breaking FFP to pretty much everyone else who's been found guilty, it's hugely heavy handed. It's disproportionate from both the perspective of the size of the fine vs the indiscretion, and in terms of our ability to pay it. We were guilty of huge financial mismanagement, but it was nothing malicious. Man City got caught red handed basically trying to cheat the system and they got hit with a fine which was pocket change for their owners.
I feel like we were made an example of. Probably not helped by the fact many in the football industry thought we got off lightly for the Ale Faurlin saga. Also probably a few people in positions of influence couldn't wait to see us fail after the "we've got more cash that you" era.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 1, 2021 18:34:54 GMT
Anyone know what this is about good or bad?
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