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Post by 1qprdk on Nov 25, 2020 12:12:28 GMT
counter argument is he should not have done subs although it’s what people said do before. Yes, that is true. There is a difference though: People were calling for changes, not for changes sake, but because the players on the pitch did not deliver. Yesterday the players already on the pitch delivered quite well, so there was really no need for said changes. And this would be the argument, I suppose.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 25, 2020 12:49:59 GMT
counter argument is he should not have done subs although it’s what people said do before. Yes, that is true. There is a difference though: People were calling for changes, not for changes sake, but because the players on the pitch did not deliver. Yesterday the players already on the pitch delivered quite well, so there was really no need for said changes. And this would be the argument, I suppose. Valid point. Maybe there were some pre-planned things or something else we don't know. It's also possible that he made a misjudgement or didn't read players performances well. I'm not very interested tbh because we won.
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Post by 1qprdk on Nov 25, 2020 15:19:57 GMT
True Doc. Still only fair if people question the decisionmaking when we end up barely scraping over the line in a game where we should have been well out of sight. Players and management need to learn from games like this and hopefully they will. And we will hopefully continue to discuss different aspects of games and decisions here as well, also when we win.
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Post by Bill on Nov 25, 2020 18:21:37 GMT
True Doc. Still only fair if people question the decisionmaking when we end up barely scraping over the line in a game where we should have been well out of sight. Players and management need to learn from games like this and hopefully they will. And we will hopefully continue to discuss different aspects of games and decisions here as well, also when we win. They do need to learn,but MW learns nothing and really is stubborn
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 25, 2020 19:48:11 GMT
Harsh Bill! He has learnt to improve the defence and GK this season in comparison to last!
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Post by West Acton on Nov 25, 2020 19:55:19 GMT
Harsh Bill! He has learnt to improve the defence and GK this season in comparison to last! we were good last season moving the ball but think this season there has been noticeable improvement in this area too. We play in tight areas now with confidence where as last season You always had heart in your mouth thinking going to get caught out
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 25, 2020 19:58:44 GMT
Harsh Bill! He has learnt to improve the defence and GK this season in comparison to last! we were good last season moving the ball but think this season there has been noticeable improvement in this area too. We play in tight areas now with confidence where as last season You always had heart in your mouth thinking going to get caught out True. This is largely because of LTC's arrival IMO as that's definitely one of his strengths - and the type of quality to easily go unnoticed too.
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 28, 2020 21:58:58 GMT
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Post by Bill on Dec 1, 2020 18:38:47 GMT
We practice set pieces 🤣
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 1, 2020 23:53:50 GMT
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Post by James1979 on Dec 1, 2020 23:57:46 GMT
Have to admit I can’t watch these anymore. Although with JFH and Ollie, that was true after 2 games.
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 2, 2020 8:58:46 GMT
Have to admit I can’t watch these anymore. I don't blame you. I'm not masochistic enough to watch them either.
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Post by Shania on Dec 2, 2020 11:25:51 GMT
One to follow: Marti Cituentes available from Christmas. will not get his contract renewed at my favorite club in Norway. Reason: The club is skint. totalfootballanalysis.com/article/marti-cifuentes-sandefjord-head-coach-analysis-tactics:"Cifuentes at Sandefjord has so far been a very interesting journey to follow. How he quickly added defensive stability in his first season while starting to implement his own ideas and principles is impressive. Last season saw the team keep the defensive stability while vastly improving in the attacking phase too. This season they have faced stronger opposition and adapted the approach without sacrificing their principles. They have done this with great success, arguably punching above their weight in Eliteserien. If Cifuentes keeps up the development of this team for the rest of the season, Sandefjord will be very fortunate to keep him for another one". Bump This young manager has beaten Molde twice this season. Just saying.
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Post by rscot on Dec 2, 2020 11:28:47 GMT
Sounds about right, start at the back then work your way forward. I’m sure he know a few players that wouldn’t break the bank that could strengthen the team / squad
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Post by Shania on Dec 2, 2020 12:26:08 GMT
Sounds about right, start at the back then work your way forward. I’m sure he know a few players that wouldn’t break the bank that could strengthen the team / squad He tends to use his spanish contacts etc when needed, but his force is team building and his fellow spanish coaches are top quality with regards to training methods. If we want to approch him we have act swiftly, because It could be that he is on his way to Aalborg in Denmark when his contract at Sandefjord Fotball expires in January.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 2, 2020 12:37:45 GMT
They wont jog him on.
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 2, 2020 12:57:28 GMT
Sounds about right, start at the back then work your way forward. I’m sure he know a few players that wouldn’t break the bank that could strengthen the team / squad He tends to use his spanish contacts etc when needed, but his force is team building and his fellow spanish coaches are top quality with regards to training methods. If we want to approch him we have act swiftly, because It could be that he is on his way to Aalborg in Denmark when his contract at Sandefjord Fotball expires in January.We always ignore promising managerial talent - generally from outside the UK, with good form, and keen to come over here to further their career. (Graham Potter - just one example from many - was looking to come back to the UK for at least a year before it actually happened, and the championship looked the most likely destination.) We specialise in this when we belatedly ditch yet another non runner. And then we make another highly questionable appointment.
That's why this wont happen, and its also why supporting a club run by clueless non entities (in terms of strategy) is so painful. It doesn't have to be this way.
I can't help feeling our current dof has been a massive obstacle in terms of securing a decent manager. Just a vibe I get.
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Post by Corbray on Dec 2, 2020 13:24:13 GMT
would still like ryan lowe of plymouth here. 13th in league 1 after being promoted last season, play attacking football too. he got a troubled bury promoted the season before last against all the odds. exciting prospect imo and would tick a lot of boxes
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Post by Timmy Doc on Dec 2, 2020 13:33:12 GMT
Stick with Warburton if Eddie Howe isn't interested.
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Post by Bill on Dec 2, 2020 14:57:58 GMT
I feel for the guy.
Not much to work with and not really much backing from the board in real terms.
Quote "we keep creating chances but dont take them"I guess that is not his fault either.
Dykes,Bonne really not the ticket so far for me. Dickie maybe jury still out. Dieng the one bright light.
Having said this he doesn't really help himself as the pattern of games is far to regular.This means he has to change at some point to protect our Championship status.
The fact is if you keep diluting the quality of the playing staff sooner or later you pay the penalty and with a manager who cant seem to change or lacks motivational skills at half time especially the future looks somewhat gloomy.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 2, 2020 15:43:50 GMT
You can build a structure out of paper,don't mean its solid,fit for purpose and will last.
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 2, 2020 16:16:23 GMT
Stick with Warburton if Eddie Howe isn't interested.
Eddie Howe will do an excellent job for someone in the near future. A decent investment.
Sadly, we wont be involved. We don't make sensible strategic decisions, do we.
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on another managerial note I was watching the special one lay in to THFC at half time on the documentary. Berating them for slow build up, slow transitions. He's certainly sorted that problem out. Hope Warburton watched and learned.
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Post by Corbray on Dec 2, 2020 17:23:24 GMT
absolutely no chance of howe coming here, we may as well be discussing bringing in hansi flick lol. howe's stock is very high despite relegation and he could arguebly land himself a top 6 job with financial backing in any top league. why would he come to us where we're a few seasons from being genuine promotion contenders and were he also won't have any funds avaliable? no chance of it.
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 2, 2020 17:49:26 GMT
We always ignore promising managerial talent - generally from outside the UK, with good form, and keen to come over here to further their career. (Graham Potter - just one example from many - was looking to come back to the UK for at least a year before it actually happened, and the championship looked the most likely destination.) We specialise in this when we belatedly ditch yet another non runner. And then we make another highly questionable appointment.
That's why this wont happen, and its also why supporting a club run by clueless non entities (in terms of strategy) is so painful. It doesn't have to be this way.
I can't help feeling our current dof has been a massive obstacle in terms of securing a decent manager. Just a vibe I get. I agree with you there, and wasn`t he the one who brought in JFH? Ramsey Hasselbaink Holloway McClaren Warburton Is the list under the DoF's watch.
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Post by Shania on Dec 2, 2020 17:56:31 GMT
I agree with you there, and wasn`t he the one who brought in JFH? Ramsey Hasselbaink Holloway McClaren Warburton Is the list under the DoF's watch. Ok! Not much quality there.
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Post by Corbray on Dec 2, 2020 17:58:24 GMT
I agree with you there, and wasn`t he the one who brought in JFH? Ramsey Hasselbaink Holloway McClaren Warburton Is the list under the DoF's watch. holloway was an ian taylor appointment
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 2, 2020 18:24:34 GMT
absolutely no chance of howe coming here But the real reason for that is not that he's an automatic top six short list, I don't think that's a given, and it isn't that under no circumstances could we afford him (we still have some of the wealthiest stakeholders in the game anywhere in the world, certainly way beyond the scope of Bournemouth.)
The real reason is that there isn't the appetite or the ambition at the club to put a sensible strategy in place for growth (starting with the gaffer).
And managers know that. That's before you even start on the dof issue.
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Post by James1979 on Dec 2, 2020 18:50:31 GMT
McKinnes or Howe. Not sure how/if realistic though
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 2, 2020 18:56:41 GMT
Ramsey Hasselbaink Holloway McClaren Warburton Is the list under the DoF's watch. holloway was an ian taylor appointment Yes. Our former head of media. Also under Les' watch 😅
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 2, 2020 19:03:10 GMT
Why do all our bosses have to be old and English. Don't get me wrong,there's some proper foreign weapons bosses out there but with time and actual research there must be plenty of belters too.
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