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Post by The General on Sept 5, 2020 16:20:20 GMT
Our striker situation , goalkeeper situation and defence is very worrying
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 5, 2020 16:23:30 GMT
It’s not just about style of play. Some of our defenders are just not very good defenders. They switch off far too much took words out my mouth was going say is it lack of coaching or players simply not good enough No matter how hard you drill them whilst you have a LB who has zero desire to track back, zero interest in what’s going on around him and to do his first job which is stop the ball coming into box then we’re always going to be vulnerable. Serious question (I know it’s not sole answer) but if we had a LB who had a hunger to defend, who could smell a threat do you think our defensive record would improve overall?? Absolutely mate. So many of the goals we concede stem from Manning going walkabout or simply not doing the basics well enough defensively. |
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Post by The General on Sept 5, 2020 16:26:41 GMT
Made. That exact point. This morning Manning always out of fucking position it's a total joke
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 5, 2020 16:44:30 GMT
Serious question (I know it’s not sole answer) but if we had a LB who had a hunger to defend, who could smell a threat do you think our defensive record would improve overall?? Yes, definitely. But we have a GK issue too. However what's an even bigger concern is that our manager can't see any of this, for some inexplicable reason. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Sept 5, 2020 16:48:41 GMT
Serious question (I know it’s not sole answer) but if we had a LB who had a hunger to defend, who could smell a threat do you think our defensive record would improve overall?? Yes |
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Post by The General on Sept 5, 2020 16:56:16 GMT
He needs to sort out the defence and joke goalkeeper or fuck off sorry
Plays great football but the lack of defence is an embarrassment every fucking week
It's like Groundhog Day every week
What is wrong with this bloke
How can Lumley still be in our goal is this a joke ffs
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 5, 2020 17:07:44 GMT
He needs to sort out the defence and joke goalkeeper or fuck off sorry Plays great football but the lack of defence is an embarrassment every fucking week It's like Groundhog Day every week What is wrong with this bloke How can Lumley still be in our goal is this a joke ffs He is accountable to Sir Les. If Warbs can't see the problem, do you think our DoF can? Not to sack him, but just to advise where he thinks it's going wrong. That's the job of a Director of Football is after all, isn't it? |
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Post by The General on Sept 5, 2020 17:15:46 GMT
Best not to get me started on Mr Colgate Stan
I'll probably combust mate
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Post by The General on Sept 5, 2020 17:19:24 GMT
Get Flávio back
He would have Lumleys hands cut off by now
And fired the whole defence after last season 😂😂😂
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Post by Shania on Sept 5, 2020 17:25:46 GMT
It`s a pity that Thomas Cromwell is dead. He would have been a perfect DOF.
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 5, 2020 17:26:07 GMT
He needs to sort out the defence and joke goalkeeper or fuck off sorry Plays great football but the lack of defence is an embarrassment every fucking week It's like Groundhog Day every week What is wrong with this bloke How can Lumley still be in our goal is this a joke ffs He is accountable to Sir Les. If Warbs can't see the problem, do you think our DoF can? Not to sack him, but just to advise where he thinks it's going wrong. That's the job of a Director of Football is after all, isn't it? Been saying exactly this mate. A proper DoF would take the Manager to one side and have a chat with him about areas of improvement. Maybe suggest hiring a defensive coach etc. |
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 5, 2020 17:27:49 GMT
Fact is our players aren’t good enough. Need a lb, rb, cb and GK!!!
We’ve lost to Oxford and Plymouth now yet people think we have a strong enough squad atm to compete in the championship.
We are a good 5/6 plasters short of being able to stay up right now and the likes of Kakay, Materson and Chair as promising as they are should not be relied on to compete over 46 games and keep us up. They should all be squad players not first 11!
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 5, 2020 17:46:07 GMT
our players aren’t good enough I'm not sure Maids. I think our squad overall isn't too bad and will still be improved by the time the window closes. I think the manager is just picking the wrong players. For example, I don't think Oteh, Lumley and Manning should be getting picked ahead of Smyth, Wallace and Dieng. Decisions like that can make a major difference to outcomes. |
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 5, 2020 17:54:50 GMT
Even if that’s true Stanley, the 3 you are suggesting that come in don’t exactly elevate us to a solid champ team.
The last two results speak for themselves, we are barely competing with league 1 clubs right now and our squad is reflective of that.
5 or 6 shrewd signings can change that very quickly but what we have at our disposal right now, we are in trouble.
I’m hoping these results against Oxford and Plymouth demonstrate to the board and MW that we are far from a complete squad.
As I’ve said numerous time’s, last year our back 4 was a shambles and we had one of the worst records in the league yet we think dickie who is a good signing of is going to rectify all our problems at the back 😂😂!
To top it off we’ve lost all our goals and Dykes is not a 20 goal a season striker. We are weaker all over the park yet fans are going we will be fine. This squad is lacking experienced players all over the park!
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 5, 2020 18:03:36 GMT
the 3 you are suggesting that come in don’t exactly elevate us to a solid champ team. I think that's debatable Maids. I believe they should be given a chance of at least more game time. The little they have played all three have looked solid and reliable. Certainly a lot more reliable than the players getting picked ahead of them. Small tweaks like that can make a big difference, and that should not be underestimated. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Sept 5, 2020 18:15:48 GMT
Do you all prefer 0-1 results to 2-3?
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 5, 2020 18:24:32 GMT
I also don’t want to see manning or BOS in the team until they sign new contracts. Both look shyte right now.
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 5, 2020 19:11:32 GMT
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Post by acricketer on Sept 5, 2020 19:21:23 GMT
Alarm Bells now ringing season starts ne t week ffs Still got the same joke goalie that fucked up the whole of last season please help me god |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 5, 2020 22:05:24 GMT
Worryingly strange response. You would have thought lessons would have been learnt from last season, but not a single one has it seems. I am really trying to stay positive but it doesn't bode well when the manager can't pinpoint where the issues lie. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 5, 2020 22:11:47 GMT
Worryingly strange response. You would have thought lessons would have been learnt from last season, but not a single one has it seems. I am really trying to stay positive but it doesn't bode well when the manager can't pinpoint where the issues lie. Never worked on the defence at Rangers and looms like it is the same with us. His inability to change will eventually cost him his job and could cost us our league status. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 5, 2020 22:28:35 GMT
Worryingly strange response. You would have thought lessons would have been learnt from last season, but not a single one has it seems. I am really trying to stay positive but it doesn't bode well when the manager can't pinpoint where the issues lie. Never worked on the defence at Rangers and looms like it is the same with us. His inability to change will eventually cost him his job and could cost us our league status. If he can't see what the issues are at what point does a Director of Football intervene and actually behave like one, as per his remit? It's counter-productive to keep changing managers, but just tell him in no uncertain terms that things have to change. This is all assuming of course that the DoF can see what the rest of us see, which I suppose is a dangerous assumption. At least the league hasn't begun yet and the window's still open, so I'm still clinging on to some hope. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 5, 2020 22:40:58 GMT
Never worked on the defence at Rangers and looms like it is the same with us. His inability to change will eventually cost him his job and could cost us our league status. If he can't see what the issues are at what point does a Director of Football intervene and actually behave like one, as per his remit? It's counter-productive to keep changing managers, but just tell him in no uncertain terms that things have to change. This is all assuming of course that the DoF can see what the rest of us see, which I suppose is a dangerous assumption. At least the league hasn't begun yet and the window's still open, so I'm still clinging on to some hope. We have not improved one jot since he came here so will not be holding my breath that a sudden change will occur. A proper experienced keeper would help us massively as none of our defenders have looked any good with any of the keepers we have at the club. |
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Post by acricketer on Sept 5, 2020 23:35:18 GMT
Worryingly strange response. You would have thought lessons would have been learnt from last season, but not a single one has it seems. I am really trying to stay positive but it doesn't bode well when the manager can't pinpoint where the issues lie. Never worked on the defence at Rangers and looms like it is the same with us. His inability to change will eventually cost him his job and could cost us our league status. Not this season. Have you seen the rest of the league? |
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 6, 2020 7:28:29 GMT
Never worked on the defence at Rangers and looms like it is the same with us. His inability to change will eventually cost him his job and could cost us our league status. Not this season. Have you seen the rest of the league? Thank you.......some common sense. I'm as frustrated as anyone at the manager's pigheadedness when it comes to defensive scenarios and with regards to some team selections. But it's just 1 part of the overall picture. I think in a lot of ways we are probably in far better shape than many sides in the division. Financially, Covid has been less of an upheaval for us than many other clubs as we'd already gone through a huge wage reduction in recent years. Try being Reading right now. Wage bill that is off the charts and minus the revenue of 15,000 fans a week. And I'll say it again, the transfer window is still open and we are still very much active in it. I suspect we are also trying to work the loan market to plug some of the remaining gaps in the squad. The thing about loaning somebody like Scott Hogan or like Hugill and Wells last season is that these are players that are available for sale or loan. On reasonably high wages and no longer wanted by their clubs. In Hogan's case, I doubt anyone will take him on the wages he currently earns, but Villa will be trying to punt him around regardless. What will probably happen is a week before the end of the window, Villa will cut their losses and loan him out for a contribution of his wages. i.e. He all of a sudden becomes a viable signing for us, just as Hugill and Wells did last season. We will strengthen, we are still playing good football despite the loss this weekend, and I'm absolutely certain we won't be dragged into a relegation battle this year. Yeah, it'll probably be another frustrating season with lots of "what if's" and lots of games we throw away by not defending properly, but it's a long way from as bad as some on here seem to think. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 6, 2020 9:08:22 GMT
we are still playing good football I agree Tarbs. We were playing good football last season too, so no change there. Fast free flowing, free scoring, skillful attack minded football. Just a few defensive tweaks would have seen us challenging for the play-offs. This is precisely what the frustrating thing has been with Warburton - his apparent complete blind spot regarding the defensive side of the game. |
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Post by Tarbie on Sept 6, 2020 9:37:11 GMT
we are still playing good football I agree Tarbs. We were playing good football last season too, so no change there. Fast free flowing, free scoring, skillful attack minded football. Just a few defensive tweaks would have seen us challenging for the play-offs. This is precisely what the frustrating thing has been with Warburton - his apparent complete blind spot regarding the defensive side of the game. Totally agree mate. And I see nothing to suggest this season will be any different. But all this talk of us being relegation candidates etc. is nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 10:56:50 GMT
Don’t really get the bring in a new defensive coach..how many more coaches does a club our size need ?
If you take out Lumley Kakay and daisy chain Manning the rest of the defence is made up of MW choice of new players and it’s clear that it’s not working.
It’s not a new defensive coach we need its MW to shape up or be shipped out.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 6, 2020 11:31:22 GMT
To achieve anything you need to be able to defend to a decent standard. What is the point of scoring 2 goals yesterday and shipping 3 in. We have a defence that do not defend and one striker of note on the books so a struggle is more likely than not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 16:41:44 GMT
To achieve anything you need to be able to defend to a decent standard. What is the point of scoring 2 goals yesterday and shipping 3 in. We have a defence that do not defend and one striker of note on the books so a struggle is more likely than not. Totally agree..with the managers current tactics and the squad of players as of today I would fully expect this season to be a relegation battle from start to finish. As Hal said a week or so ago most seems happy with the current squad plus a few signings ? |
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