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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 6, 2020 16:54:07 GMT
our players aren’t good enough I'm not sure Maids. I think our squad overall isn't too bad and will still be improved by the time the window closes. I think the manager is just picking the wrong players. For example, I don't think Oteh, Lumley and Manning should be getting picked ahead of Smyth, Wallace and Dieng. Decisions like that can make a major difference to outcomes. I also think that unless Manning and BOS sign that they should not be playing and we should be off loading for the best price possible as 60% of their value is better now than sod all next year. The keeper situation needs sorting as does the CF position as Dykes cannot be expected to carry the load on his tod.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 18, 2020 21:18:28 GMT
Get in a defensive coach. Surely everyone has had enough of this shit? Three conceded again. Yep, unquestionably.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 18, 2020 21:40:11 GMT
Get in a defensive coach. Surely everyone has had enough of this shit? Three conceded again. Yep, unquestionably. [b He won’t though as it will be him admitting he was wrong. Most managers don’t like admitting that.
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Post by Shania on Sept 18, 2020 21:57:12 GMT
Must this end in Warburton getting the sack? Is he really that stubborn? And no, I preferably wants him to stay because we had enough managerial changes now..I hope he sees sense.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Sept 19, 2020 1:04:55 GMT
Need a proper keeper and a CB who doesn't think he is Pirlo.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 19, 2020 8:13:16 GMT
Wasn't really meant as a criticism of Dickie as a player.like I said, good on the ball. Just that he didn't win too many headers in the box. He's certainly no Richard Dunne which is what we need with our record of defending corners and dead balls. The problems last night were mainly Barbet, Wallace and Lumley. So once again the left side of defence and goalkeeping. The manager has had over a season to address this now with still no sign of improvement. I have always preferred Masterson over Barbet; and Hamalainen has impressed too. I would bring both those players in now. I'd also give Dieng a try as it's still not working with Lumley, with Kelly looking quite error prone too.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 19, 2020 8:26:55 GMT
Wasn't really meant as a criticism of Dickie as a player.like I said, good on the ball. Just that he didn't win too many headers in the box. He's certainly no Richard Dunne which is what we need with our record of defending corners and dead balls. The problems last night were mainly Barbet, Wallace and Lumley. So once again the left side of defence and goalkeeping. The manager has had over a season to address this now with still no sign of improvement. I have always preferred Masterson over Barbet; and Hamalainen has impressed too. I would bring both those players in now. I'd also give Dieng a try as it's still not working with Lumley, with Kelly looking quite error prone too. 100% agree Barbet for me is no defender and causes confusion when in the team. It is no coincidence that not centre half has looked good next to him. And the build up to the first goal shows him diving in and selling himself before the ball went wide which left him way out of position.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 19, 2020 8:34:12 GMT
The problems last night were mainly Barbet, Wallace and Lumley. So once again the left side of defence and goalkeeping. The manager has had over a season to address this now with still no sign of improvement. I have always preferred Masterson over Barbet; and Hamalainen has impressed too. I would bring both those players in now. I'd also give Dieng a try as it's still not working with Lumley, with Kelly looking quite error prone too. 100% agree Barbet for me is no defender and causes confusion when in the team. It is no coincidence that not centre half has looked good next to him. And the build up to the first goal shows him diving in and selling himself before the ball went wide which left him way out of position. I’m not sure it’s just the individuals that’s the issue. It’s how they’re organised and set up. Our style of play also a has little to do with us conceding so many. That’s a good thing in my view, as it should be a simple fix. The issue is that, 1 year in and it’s actually getting worse. We can’t keep saying “they’re human”. So are the opposing defenders but we don’t see them losing their man and leaving people in free space so often.
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Sept 19, 2020 8:41:19 GMT
Eustace can't have much of an input nowadays in regards to our defensive work,as when he was caretaker he set us up well and didnt concede many in those games. Warburtons stubbornness in clearly not working on the defensive aspect will be his undoing at the club
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 19, 2020 8:41:23 GMT
I’m not sure it’s just the individuals that’s the issue. It’s how they’re organised and set up. Our style of play also a has little to do with us conceding so many. That’s a good thing in my view, as it should be a simple fix. The issue is that, 1 year in and it’s actually getting worse. We can’t keep saying “they’re human”. So are the opposing defenders but we don’t see them losing their man and leaving people in free space so often. For the avoidance of any doubt, it's Warburton who said this after the game, as he usually does. Agree with the rest of your post.
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Post by Shania on Sept 19, 2020 9:25:04 GMT
Eustace can't have much of an input nowadays in regards to our defensive work,as when he was caretaker he set us up well and didnt concede many in those games. Warburtons stubbornness in clearly not working on the defensive aspect will be his undoing at the club Excatly what I have been thinking, and often stated, for a year now.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 19, 2020 9:55:57 GMT
100% agree Barbet for me is no defender and causes confusion when in the team. It is no coincidence that not centre half has looked good next to him. And the build up to the first goal shows him diving in and selling himself before the ball went wide which left him way out of position. I’m not sure it’s just the individuals that’s the issue. It’s how they’re organised and set up. Our style of play also a has little to do with us conceding so many. That’s a good thing in my view, as it should be a simple fix. The issue is that, 1 year in and it’s actually getting worse. We can’t keep saying “they’re human”. So are the opposing defenders but we don’t see them losing their man and leaving people in free space so often. Barbet not jumping with the guy for the 3rd goal is an individual error, I agree we are too easy to get at and shows how reliant we were on Eze as penalty aside Dykes recieved sod all from the midfielders and wide players.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Sept 19, 2020 17:47:39 GMT
Barbet is a fucking liability, always has been, and the quicker we get him out the side the quicker we will improve.
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Post by The General on Feb 7, 2021 17:20:12 GMT
Have to say that our defence has been amazing over the last few months
Hats off to whoever is responsible for this situation at the club
We are now solid at the back with a great goal keeper to add to that
What a difference to last seasons disaster
Have we changed the coach or coaching system ?
Three at the back has also worked very well as it did early season
Good work Rangers
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Post by Bill on Feb 7, 2021 17:37:51 GMT
Is it not a new guy from Arsenal,Neil Barnyard something like that.
Certainly not MW
Sorry Banfield.
Add MW stubborn stance waning,a decent keeper and probably someone having a word in MWs shell,improve or get the sack and Ltc absence
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Feb 7, 2021 17:50:09 GMT
Is it not a new guy from Arsenal,Neil Barnyard something like that. Certainly not MW Sorry Banfield. Add MW stubborn stance waning,a decent keeper and probably someone having a word in MWs shell,improve or get the sack and Ltc absence LTC absence? That's a weird one Bill?
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Post by West Acton on Feb 7, 2021 17:53:23 GMT
Is it not a new guy from Arsenal,Neil Barnyard something like that. Certainly not MW Sorry Banfield. Add MW stubborn stance waning,a decent keeper and probably someone having a word in MWs shell,improve or get the sack and Ltc absence he was there last season
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Post by The General on Feb 7, 2021 17:58:10 GMT
Whatever they have done has worked wonders one goal in five or six games is a total massive improvement
If we could secure The new dining and Charlie next season we would be right up there
Especially with mitral all over the papers today saying he's worth six billion pounds ffs
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Post by Bill on Feb 7, 2021 18:02:48 GMT
Is it not a new guy from Arsenal,Neil Barnyard something like that. Certainly not MW Sorry Banfield. Add MW stubborn stance waning,a decent keeper and probably someone having a word in MWs shell,improve or get the sack and Ltc absence he was there last season Ok relatively new,probably took this long to get his ideas into the stubborn ones heas
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Post by Bill on Feb 7, 2021 18:06:10 GMT
Is it not a new guy from Arsenal,Neil Barnyard something like that. Certainly not MW Sorry Banfield. Add MW stubborn stance waning,a decent keeper and probably someone having a word in MWs shell,improve or get the sack and Ltc absence LTC absence? That's a weird one Bill? Not good defensively,lightweight and whilst retaining possession often sideways the transition is much quicker thus making the opposition more on their guard and not committing so many forward,which in turn helps our defence.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 7, 2021 19:15:50 GMT
I think having a great keeper behind them has worked wonders for our defenders' confidence.
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Post by Shania on Feb 7, 2021 19:25:57 GMT
Banfield and Eustace have more of a say I feel. Yaya Toure also perhaps.
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Post by 1qprdk on Feb 7, 2021 21:09:19 GMT
Is he still around? Either way he´s only been with the younger players, if I´m not mistaken?
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Post by Greg1882 on Feb 7, 2021 21:09:52 GMT
Top class keeper, brilliant signing in dickie and an improved formation. That’s basically it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2021 8:17:13 GMT
Every successful team has a solid base of a mean defence... For me I don’t care about being good on the eye its all about results in our current predicament.
I’m still not convinced that MW and co have the knowledge and know how of defensive coaches like Don Howe to be also a force in attack.
A mixture of having very few out and out creative players in the team and a change in formation at the back have produced some desperately needed points on the board.
The challenge next for MW is to make the team lean and mean at the back and also get a good balance of creative players in the team.
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Post by Shania on Feb 8, 2021 12:07:36 GMT
Is he still around? Either way he´s only been with the younger players, if I´m not mistaken?think you`re correct.
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 8, 2021 17:38:25 GMT
Top class keeper, brilliant signing in dickie and an improved formation. That’s basically it Cameron's leadership and organisation has improved Dickie and Barbet as both look better in a 3 than in a 2. The keeper has been outstanding and that has been crucial too.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 9, 2021 10:32:51 GMT
Listing to MW's pre-match interview for tonight, interesting to hear him refer to Neil Banfield as responsible for working on our defence along with GK coach Gavin Ward. So we've had one all along apparently 😅 but obviously doing a better job these days.
Also said John Eustace works more on the attacking side, (along with Matt Gardiner presumably).
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