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Post by Shania on Sept 10, 2020 10:25:34 GMT
I think we have to accept that ambitions sometimes is about taking a few steps back and regroup. Especially in times like these...
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Post by awin on Sept 10, 2020 10:34:12 GMT
Can someone wake me up in 10 years time (if I’m not dead ) and tell me that our club has rediscovered what the word ambition means please ? Even the most ardent fans on here have come to expect mediocrity and it is probably exactly what our inept rich owners want to hear. from the fan base. Sparx you are aware of this little thing called FFP? The owners, if anything were over ambitious when they joined and thus the huge number of over priced pros coming to the twilight of their careers. That ‘ambition’ led us to sign Sandro, Fer, Cesar, Park, Cisse, Green etc I far prefer the longer sustainable approach that works in the long run.
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 10, 2020 10:53:07 GMT
He is the main problem,imo.
You're right Shania. The manager is an obvious liability. You'll never get any consistency with a side who can not defend and generally look clueless off the ball.
We all know this really but sometimes some of us don't want to accept the reality. Maybe he will pull his finger out and address the issue but he has never done it in the past. The form book doesn't lie.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 11:13:26 GMT
He is the main problem,imo.
You're right Shania. The manager is an obvious liability. You'll never get any consistency with a side who can not defend and generally look clueless off the ball.
We all know this really but sometimes some of us don't want to accept the reality. Maybe he will pull his finger out and address the issue but he has never done it in the past. The form book doesn't lie.
Some can’t see past coating BOS off and don’t see the real Elephant in the room.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 10, 2020 11:14:34 GMT
I think we have to accept that ambitions sometimes is about taking a few steps back and regroup. Especially in times like these... Christ we about 30 miles back than from start position
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 10, 2020 11:49:05 GMT
We are weaker and worse still have 2 toerags upsetting the harmony of the squad in Manning and BOS. Get rid of them and use whatever we get to replace as plenty of free's available and players at low fees. I agree but getting rid of an asset worth potentially £5m needs to be done carefully if we are to realise that. These agents really are a blight on football.
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Post by Shania on Sept 10, 2020 12:32:06 GMT
He is the main problem,imo.
You're right Shania. The manager is an obvious liability. You'll never get any consistency with a side who can not defend and generally look clueless off the ball.
We all know this really but sometimes some of us don't want to accept the reality. Maybe he will pull his finger out and address the issue but he has never done it in the past. The form book doesn't lie.
We have to believe that it will happen now.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 10, 2020 12:34:58 GMT
Still it’s just under a 100 again here, and my main worry is beer or other😎
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 10, 2020 16:35:09 GMT
We are weaker and worse still have 2 toerags upsetting the harmony of the squad in Manning and BOS. Get rid of them and use whatever we get to replace as plenty of free's available and players at low fees. I agree but getting rid of an asset worth potentially £5m needs to be done carefully if we are to realise that. These agents really are a blight on football. We either actively move him on and get money or we run the risk of him walking away and get nothing.
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 19, 2020 9:50:41 GMT
5/6 players needed ASAP.
As mentioned earlier, if the window closes and we don’t add 4 or 5 players we will struggle this year.
Chair showed last night that he is going to be highly frustrating this season and is a long way from being our Eze replacement. The lads talented and wasted on the left but to think he was the sole answer to Eze leaving is madness from the club.
BOS looks up for it right now, whether that’s because he’s in the shop window or the fact there’s a gentleman’s agreement to sign a new contract if no prem club comes in and he can go next hear. However, playing in a team that capitulated like we did last night against a side who aren’t that good is not really going to motivate him to stay.
Amos is out of his depth as a CAM and I actually feel a little sorry for him. WTF is MW doing trying to convert him into one. I was one of the few fans who thought he actually done ok in that CM/DM role last hear and I would much prefer to see him dropped back.
Cameron, is a work horse, but I don’t know if it’s age catching up or not but he doesn’t dominate the game like we need him to and his passing is just deteriating by the game.
Our lb and gk situation is just a joke and the alarming thing for me is and I might be wrong that these two problem areas don’t seem to be a issue with our management team. Why are Nikko and Dieng not being given a chance?
I stated this a few weeks ago that our attacking department is deprived of quality, creativity and vision and the fact that some on this site and others thought we could lose Eze, Hugil and Wells (Over 40 of our goals last season) and not replace them adequately with proven Players that we could compete is beyond me.
We scored 67 goals last season and let in 76 and finished 13th in the league. We had the worst defensive stats in the whole league last year but something like the third best attacking.
Our attacking options are immensely weaker and we have brought in one cb to addres our defending problems. There are big issues at the club.
The funny thing is and I struggle to articulate this point is I actually think we are not to far away from being a decent football team and I can see the foundations of a good starting 11 -
Players like
Dickie Kakay Materson Barbet - he’s not horrendous at all Amos Chair - used in his right position BOS Dykes Smyth Thomas Ball Bettache Nikko
All can play and have potential if used in their correct positions. Not all are first 11 but could easily play their part.
I think to compete the following signings need to be made -
Gk
Kakay Dickie Barbet New lb - another cb option
Ball Amos - Bettache and Cameron back up, would love to see Watson signed as upgrade on Cameron
BOS new CAM Adomah - Chair to fight for first 11
Dykes
Alternatively I think we have the squad for a 3 4 3 or 3 5 2 set up. However, I got a feeling MW is going to piss people of this season as he’s so stubborn on formation, not making subs and he clearly has his favourite players.
Hopefully last night was a wake up call and we will go and grab a few experienced heads. Watson, Adomah, experienced champ keeper, decent lb and a striker and it will revolutionise is and I think we’d actually crack on and finish comfortably mid table and maybe even higher.
Lots of work to be done. Not all doom and gloom but we wed to be active on the market now or we will be a team that fights relegation!
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Post by James1979 on Sept 19, 2020 10:10:24 GMT
There is no way we will sign 5-6 players. We’ll probably get a striker in but that’s it. I do agree we need players though. A physical and athletic central midfielder and a full back who can defend would be a priority for me. Tom Carroll seems a bit pointless with Amos there too. But more important than anything is they need to sort out how to defend. It’s not the system, it’s not because they’re not good enough individually and it’s not because “they’re human”. Whatever plans and set up we do in training is not working. Change it. Now is the time to do that.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 19, 2020 10:17:02 GMT
That team that played last night will struggle big time this season. 3rd worst defence in the league last season and 10 conceded already this term. Hard to defend this manager
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 19, 2020 10:23:11 GMT
The thing that is frustrating me in the transfer market with QPR right now is there have been some really savvy loan and free deal business done by other clubs.
Betenelli on loan to Boro, Etheridge from Cardiff to Birmingham, two goalkeepers who would of improved our squid immensely.
When I say we need 5/6 players I don’t expect our club to go and spend money on transfer fee’s.
It won’t cost a arm and a leg to bring in the likes of Watson, Adomah, a couple of loans and maybe one more buy.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 19, 2020 10:48:33 GMT
Do we need a Watson type player? He’s an improvement on what we have but we need someone strong and athletic in middle of park.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 19, 2020 11:13:41 GMT
If the window closes and we don’t add 4 or 5 players we will struggle this year. Then we're going to struggle, cos that aint happening Maids. I do share your concerns FWIW but I disagree we need as many as 5/6 players. I'm with James that the problem is more the system and his approach to defending, than the personnel. With that in mind I'd say we're about 2 players short to not "struggle" this season. But again, the bigger concern is will this manager change his ways? Seen scant evidence of that so far.
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 19, 2020 11:21:37 GMT
I honestly think we do need 5 or 6 players mate.
GK LB CAM Striker - at least one?
There’s 4 and I personally think we need CB cover and another winger as Chair imo is one, MW doesn’t seem to fancy Smyth, Thomas and Mido are unknown quantities and what happens if we sell BOS and he gets injured.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m saying I think we need 5/6 players to compete properly this season and progress as a club, but I’m NOT expecting it.
I’m also of the mindset that there is a market to bring in 5/6 players for a reasonable outlay due to covid conditions. There have been some great bits of business done by other clubs in this league on free deals and loans and so far am I right in thinking we have no loans player or hen signed any free agents?
I agree with James Watson isn’t a priority signing but he’s a upgrade on what we have as at DM - but he’s an example of some of the business we could do.
Last season we worked the loan and free market extremely well and it’s the reason we stayed up. Wells and Hugil scores the goals that kept us safe!!
Surely we can work the system again to bring in 3 or 4 savvy additions?
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 19, 2020 11:52:33 GMT
What we need is a quality gaffer. Invest in that project instead. Save money in the long run.
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 19, 2020 13:22:57 GMT
The thing that is frustrating me in the transfer market with QPR right now is there have been some really savvy loan and free deal business done by other clubs.
Betenelli on loan to Boro, Etheridge from Cardiff to Birmingham, two goalkeepers who would of improved our squid immensely. Wall signed Bennett and Malone from Derby on loan deals, both would of made our team stronger. Some great business can be done in this league at a cost effective price and I don’t see with the sale of Eze and impending Manning one why we can’t bring in more players that are desperately needed!
When I say we need 5/6 players I don’t expect our club to go and spend money on transfer fee’s.
It won’t cost a arm and a leg to bring in the likes of Watson, Adomah, a couple of loans and maybe one more buy.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Sept 19, 2020 17:46:22 GMT
Dieng in goal with an experienced keeper brought in as backup....Lumley and Kelly out.
Need a proper experienced CB to replace Barbet and to play alongside either Dickie or Masterson
Need a LB full stop
Need a creative midfielder
Need another striker
So yep, 5 players
But we'll probably sign 2 wingers.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 3, 2020 8:30:34 GMT
We are BANG in trouble. I think this season is going to end in tears right now. How are you feeling now Maids, with 3 days to go? Bit more optimistic? Our defence remains porous, I'm with you there.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2020 8:34:17 GMT
Window in UK open to the 16 Oct I think
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 3, 2020 9:11:27 GMT
We are BANG in trouble. I think this season is going to end in tears right now. How are you feeling now Maids, with 3 days to go? Bit more optimistic? Our defence remains porous, I'm with you there. Defence will hold us back from having a right go this just as it did last year. The 3 signings for money you have to give credit for and once all settled should improve us. I would personally make Dickie Captain and have Masterson partnering him now and if we have to play Barbet let it be at LB as not strong or switched on enough to play CB and certainly not as the leader at the back.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 3, 2020 10:25:10 GMT
We are BANG in trouble. I think this season is going to end in tears right now. How are you feeling now Maids, with 3 days to go? Bit more optimistic? Our defence remains porous, I'm with you there. 3 days? I thought it was open til mid October?
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Post by Greg1882 on Oct 3, 2020 10:37:19 GMT
How are you feeling now Maids, with 3 days to go? Bit more optimistic? Our defence remains porous, I'm with you there. 3 days? I thought it was open til mid October? Pretty sure they said 2 weeks in the interview he had midweek
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 3, 2020 10:49:22 GMT
How are you feeling now Maids, with 3 days to go? Bit more optimistic? Our defence remains porous, I'm with you there. 3 days? I thought it was open til mid October? Googled it earlier and it said the 5th. But you're right, there is this extension now for domestic deals:
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Oct 3, 2020 11:10:48 GMT
We are BANG in trouble. I think this season is going to end in tears right now. How are you feeling now Maids, with 3 days to go? Bit more optimistic? Our defence remains porous, I'm with you there. Much better Stanley and as eluded to in the OP at the end of my rant, I thought the club might have a few tricks up their sleeves and it looks like they are backing MW. I’m personally very excited at the thought of Adomah joining. I think it’s worth noting Cardiff were desperate to get him back and he made a massive difference to a club who finished in the top 6 last year when he went there on loan. The thought of him and BOS on either flanks or potentially Adomah in a more central role I think will be great for us. If we can land Willock, a new LB if Manning goes and potentially more CB cover then it will be a great window. Signing Bonne, Adomah and keeping BOS alone imo now makes confident we will have more than enough to stay up. Dieng being our number one is a big plus for me as well and if MW can do any more business defensively then we could possibly challenge top half maybe higher. But to answer your question, considering the climate, I don’t think as fans we could ask the club to do much more than what they are doing.
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