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Post by hal9thou on Sept 18, 2020 20:48:03 GMT
There are some unemployed gaffers out there, couple of really decent shouts.
Problem is finding anyone credible who is mad enough to work with our 'structure' ie the so called dof etc.
Like I said years ago, finding a credible manager who is also prepared to work with the powers that be is a tough call.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 18, 2020 20:48:37 GMT
Masterson is better than Barbet imo. Makes less errors.
And Hamalainen needs bringing in now for Wallace after that display.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Sept 18, 2020 20:48:44 GMT
Would have lost 4-2 if Lumley didn't save that one header.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 18, 2020 20:49:06 GMT
Yes I like an overreaction but that performance really worries me for this season. We cannot defend like that. Problem is I have no idea how you change it.
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 18, 2020 20:50:12 GMT
Yes I like an overreaction but that performance really worries me for this season. We cannot defend like that. Problem is I have no idea how you change it.
There's only one way to change it James....
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 18, 2020 20:51:12 GMT
Game of two halves. Dominant first half rolled over second Passengers in chair Amos Cameron Carroll. Lost that in the middle of the pitch Second game in a row where Amos played in wrong place and Carroll disappeared. Watch him doubling up with Wallace for the second goal. Embarrassing. Goodman saying possession game is all very well but we are too slow playing it. How many of us been saying that? |
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Post by Shania on Sept 18, 2020 20:51:51 GMT
And we will hopefully sell Lumley now. He is simply not good enough. [br I’m the first one to say he can be useless. But that last goal was waiting to happen. Nothing to do with Lumley. That’s just poor defending. I was more thinking of the first one, but thing is he looks shot of any form of confidence now. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 18, 2020 20:52:22 GMT
Yes I like an overreaction but that performance really worries me for this season. We cannot defend like that. Problem is I have no idea how you change it. We have defended that way since he arrived. Nothing has changed defensively |
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Post by James1979 on Sept 18, 2020 20:52:47 GMT
[br I’m the first one to say he can be useless. But that last goal was waiting to happen. Nothing to do with Lumley. That’s just poor defending. I was more thinking of the first one, but thing is he looks shot of any form of confidence now. Yeah but 2 and 3 weren’t his fault and there were other chances. Could have been 5-2. I think 2-2 would have flattened us |
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Post by Hitman34 on Sept 18, 2020 20:53:23 GMT
Would have lost 4-2 if Lumley didn't save that one header. brilliant, he save one shot out of 4 on target. thank you lumley. |
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Post by James1979 on Sept 18, 2020 20:53:55 GMT
Yes I like an overreaction but that performance really worries me for this season. We cannot defend like that. Problem is I have no idea how you change it. We have defended that way since he arrived. Nothing has changed defensively I was hoping Dickie, Wallace and Kakay alongside Barbet would be bit more solid. I was wrong. 3 goals to those chumps?? We are in the shit. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 18, 2020 20:54:20 GMT
Would have lost 4-2 if Lumley didn't save that one header. We would've drawn 3-3 if Dykes hadn't blocked Ball's effort 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Shania on Sept 18, 2020 20:54:47 GMT
Yes I like an overreaction but that performance really worries me for this season. We cannot defend like that. Problem is I have no idea how you change it.
There's only one way to change it James....
It will not happen. And secondly we wouldn`t be able to bring players in short term. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 18, 2020 20:54:52 GMT
My piss is boiling.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 18, 2020 20:54:59 GMT
Yes I like an overreaction but that performance really worries me for this season. We cannot defend like that. Problem is I have no idea how you change it. I do. Actually work on defending in training. There's no way we do that. |
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 18, 2020 20:55:28 GMT
So many things tonight that the Forest game didn't disguise.
Transitions way too slow.
Usual shit fest at the arse end.
Most worryingly, they're not putting in a 90 minute shift, they don't look motivated.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 18, 2020 20:56:05 GMT
Yes I like an overreaction but that performance really worries me for this season. We cannot defend like that. Problem is I have no idea how you change it. I do. Actually work on defending in training. There's no way we do that. I’m sure we work on defending. But we’re just not doing it very well. |
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Post by Shania on Sept 18, 2020 20:56:10 GMT
I was more thinking of the first one, but thing is he looks shot of any form of confidence now. Could have been 5-2. I think 2-2 would have flattened us Yeah, ok. That is true. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 18, 2020 20:56:14 GMT
We have a coach who disregards the art of defending and does nothing on the defensive front to improve the team. 3rd worst defence last season which means a relegated team had a better defence than us.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 18, 2020 20:56:45 GMT
I do. Actually work on defending in training. There's no way we do that. I’m sure we work on defending. But we’re just not doing it very well. We can't be. We wouldn't be this consistently bad at defending for over a season if we were. |
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Post by Shania on Sept 18, 2020 20:58:43 GMT
So many things tonight that the Forest game didn't disguise. Transitions way too slow. Usual shit fest at the arse end. Most worryingly, they're not putting in a 90 minute shift, they don't look motivated. Both ways. That`s a huge part of our problem. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 18, 2020 20:59:29 GMT
I’m sure we work on defending. But we’re just not doing it very well. We can't be. We wouldn't be this consistently bad at defending for over a season if we were. His way of thought is worry about what we do with the ball not the opposition. You can tell we don't by the amount of goals conceded from corners. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 18, 2020 21:03:32 GMT
Warburton and the same two assistants for over a season and still we defend like a pub side. Sorry, not having that.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 18, 2020 21:06:10 GMT
I’m sure we work on defending. But we’re just not doing it very well. We can't be. We wouldn't be this consistently bad at defending for over a season if we were. If I taught you to dance every day for the next year, trust me, you wouldn’t improve. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 18, 2020 21:07:47 GMT
Wankers at Sky still banging on about kneeling. Fuck off.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 18, 2020 21:08:11 GMT
We can't be. We wouldn't be this consistently bad at defending for over a season if we were. If I taught you to dance every day for the next year, trust me, you wouldn’t improve. Excuse me, my dancing rivals that of Michael Flatley, Michael Jackson and that bloke off strictly. |
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Post by James1979 on Sept 18, 2020 21:10:04 GMT
If I taught you to dance every day for the next year, trust me, you wouldn’t improve. Excuse me, my dancing rivals that of Michael Flatley, Michael Jackson and that bloke off strictly. Mine rivals stavros flatley |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 18, 2020 21:10:37 GMT
Not a single defender has improved since he came from a defensive point of view and the fellow even persisted with Manning at LB which says everything.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Sept 18, 2020 21:14:26 GMT
I was more thinking of the first one, but thing is he looks shot of any form of confidence now. Yeah but 2 and 3 weren’t his fault and there were other chances. Could have been 5-2. I think 2-2 would have flattened us Lumley should have come off the line for their second goal. |
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 18, 2020 21:24:35 GMT
Investment in decent coach would save them money.
I like Bruno Lage. Calvalhal's assistant at this level (Swansea etc), went to Benefica (where among other things he got Adel back on track), good ppg ratio, works with a back four, currently unemployed. Can work with a dof. Mid 40s. We're not talking Poch money to tempt him back over here.
In other words exactly the sort of profile we should have already been looking at. It's a risk, but is it anymore of a risk than continuing with Warburton who looks a busted flush?
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