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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Sept 18, 2020 21:30:33 GMT
The Forrest game was a great win for us but as mentioned on the that thread at the time, as much as I enjoyed it, we rode our luck and Grabban easily should of scored once, twice if not three time’s on that game.
That third goal we let in tonight was just disgraceful. To watch 2 corners prior to that goal come into our box untested and the decisive one was just baffling.
I still stand by my post I made a couple of weeks ago that we will be in trouble this season.
There’s to much expectation on Chair to do what Eze done last year and Eze is a different class to him. MW seems to think Amos is a CAM, our goalkeepers are shit, we need a LB and we all know we need another striker and arguably wingers.
I like MW but he is one dimensional, I hate how long he takes to throw on subs as well.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 18, 2020 21:39:16 GMT
Yeah that’s fair. When you win, you kind of forget that you were bloody lucky sometimes.
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Post by Shania on Sept 18, 2020 22:05:38 GMT
If we had played Amos in front of the defence I think we could have got a point out of this match.
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Post by BrightonR on Sept 18, 2020 22:21:32 GMT
Wankers at Sky still banging on about kneeling. Fuck off. Didn’t hang around long enough to hear any of that shit. Fortunately. No place for any of that in football. All teams would soon fucking stop if fans were in stadiums, letting their feelings known. Don’t know what’s wrong with people these days my friend, I really don’t.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 18, 2020 22:45:53 GMT
Interestingly in the post match interview he was actually asked "Are the defenders just not carrying out your instructions?" In response he put their goals down to their players making clever runs and giving our defenders the slip. He acknowledged there was no excuse for the defending as we were clearly warned with the first two corners, and added that the corners shouldn't have been given away to begin with. He then said our players our only human and so such slip ups can happen. True to form he also said we wasted too many good chances. He rates Coventry as a dark horse team this season too: www.qpr.co.uk/videos/interviews/warburton-assesses-coventry-city-defeat/
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 18, 2020 23:24:09 GMT
I was more thinking of the first one, but thing is he looks shot of any form of confidence now. Yeah but 2 and 3 weren’t his fault and there were other chances. Could have been 5-2. I think 2-2 would have flattened us 5-2!!!! Did they even have 5 chances? Fucking ridiculous statement
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 18, 2020 23:27:07 GMT
Wankers at Sky still banging on about kneeling. Fuck off. Bollocks isn't it mate. Maybe we should just point out we employ about 50% of the black coaches in the league.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 18, 2020 23:31:20 GMT
Yeah but 2 and 3 weren’t his fault and there were other chances. Could have been 5-2. I think 2-2 would have flattened us 5-2!!!! Did they even have 5 chances? Fucking ridiculous statement Corner before they scored should have been buried. Header went too close to Lumley but was free header in middle of goal. There was another good chance from memory. Not that fucking ridiculous!
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 19, 2020 0:00:35 GMT
Wankers at Sky still banging on about kneeling. Fuck off. Bollocks isn't it mate. Maybe we should just point out we employ about 50% of the black coaches in the league. Yep. Since Bob Hazell back in 1979 black players have always been part of what corporate shills would call the 'Rangers family'. Treated the same as everyone; no better, no worse. As it should be. Equal. We really don't need these wretched MSM people telling us what's what when they simply want to preen and virtue signal. I truly loathe Sky.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 19, 2020 1:40:27 GMT
Interestingly in the post match interview he was actually asked "Are the defenders just not carrying out your instructions?" In response he put their goals down to their players making clever runs and giving our defenders the slip. He acknowledged there was no excuse for the defending as we were clearly warned with the first two corners, and added that the corners shouldn't have been given away to begin with. He then said our players our only human and so such slip ups can happen. True to form he also said we wasted too many good chances. He rates Coventry as a dark horse team this season too: www.qpr.co.uk/videos/interviews/warburton-assesses-coventry-city-defeat/The man is full of shit as things have not changed since he arrived. He cannot keep his job mid to long term if he does not address the defence and fast. Coventry were bang average and to suggest otherwise confirms he is full of shit.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Sept 19, 2020 6:12:08 GMT
Not a single defender has improved since he came from a defensive point of view and the fellow even persisted with Manning at LB which says everything. It does beggar the question whether there is a defender in Manning somewhere but that Warburton is unable to develop it with his seeming lack of emphasis on defensive work in training.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 6:17:41 GMT
When questioned post match about defending MW is not composed or considered in his answers.
Mostly his replies are delivered in a uncoordinated and exaggerated fast pace containing common football cliches which fail to grab my attention or respect..basically he’s winging it !
I wonder if the players have the same problem when MW sets out his tactics and defensive drills ?
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Post by BrightonR on Sept 19, 2020 6:21:27 GMT
I was more thinking of the first one, but thing is he looks shot of any form of confidence now. Yeah but 2 and 3 weren’t his fault and there were other chances. Could have been 5-2. I think 2-2 would have flattened us You’re quite right James, nothing he could have been expected to do about the last two. Unfortunately, the chances are that neither would have come about if we had gone in leading at the break. And there was plenty he could have done about that.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 19, 2020 7:10:12 GMT
Yeah but 2 and 3 weren’t his fault and there were other chances. Could have been 5-2. I think 2-2 would have flattened us You’re quite right James, nothing he could have been expected to do about the last two. Unfortunately, the chances are that neither would have come about if we had gone in leading at the break. And there was plenty he could have done about that. I’m not really defending him. I know he makes far too many mistakes and costs us games. I just think we’ve got to be fair. Maybe going in level would have changed whole game. I’m not so sure. Defending corners like that. I think we had 2 warnings before they scored. As someone else said, when we won last week, we sort of forgot about clear chances they had. It’s clear we’re not going to score as many going forward. So we need to tighten up at the back.
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Post by BrightonR on Sept 19, 2020 9:28:26 GMT
I only saw the highlights against Forest, but it looked to me like we were bloody fortunate not to concede at least 3.
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 19, 2020 9:39:52 GMT
Barbet's goal and Ball's blocked shot were pretty much the only chances we created. With 69 percent of possession. Still, six goals in three games, two away, isn't bad. But six conceded? With two losses?
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 19, 2020 9:43:14 GMT
When questioned post match about defending MW is not composed or considered in his answers. Mostly his replies are delivered in a uncoordinated and exaggerated fast pace containing common football cliches which fail to grab my attention or respect..basically he’s winging it ! I wonder if the players have the same problem when MW sets out his tactics and defensive drills ? Should we have defended better? Absolutely we should have defended better. We switched off and conceded ten silly goals. How pleasing was it that we only conceded ten goals? Very pleasing...... How well did we do in that second half? Very well... Tbf the questions are shite for the most past
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 19, 2020 9:49:56 GMT
Tbf the questions are shite for the most past Because they're always asked by a club employee, so will obviously never be challenging ones.
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Post by James1979 on Sept 19, 2020 9:50:01 GMT
When questioned post match about defending MW is not composed or considered in his answers. Mostly his replies are delivered in a uncoordinated and exaggerated fast pace containing common football cliches which fail to grab my attention or respect..basically he’s winging it ! I wonder if the players have the same problem when MW sets out his tactics and defensive drills ? Should we have defended better? Absolutely we should have defended better. We switched off and conceded ten silly goals. How pleasing was it that we only conceded ten goals? Very pleasing...... How well did we do in that second half? Very well... Tbf the questions are shite for the most past Hadn’t really noticed that but you’re spot on.
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 19, 2020 11:48:29 GMT
Barbet's goal and Ball's blocked shot were pretty much the only chances we created. With 69 percent of possession. Still, six goals in three games, two away, isn't bad. But six conceded? With two losses?
Listen, half of that possession is meaningless because we were knocking square ball uncreatively around the back, thank fuck they didn't press properly from the off.
Never mind the defending, we're so slow with our possession and transitions moving forward.
Bring more so so players is just shifting the deckchairs. Warburton has been found out, just like his dof, just like Uncle was for that matter. I'd sooner have John Sitton pulled out of his cab and running the show.
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 20, 2020 21:30:26 GMT
When questioned post match about defending MW is not composed or considered in his answers. Mostly his replies are delivered in a uncoordinated and exaggerated fast pace containing common football cliches which fail to grab my attention or respect..basically he’s winging it ! I wonder if the players have the same problem when MW sets out his tactics and defensive drills ? This. I wanted him here but I'm beginning to think he's just an eloquent Ron Manager. Only two games in but same mistakes as last season in both.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 21, 2020 6:43:12 GMT
When questioned post match about defending MW is not composed or considered in his answers. Mostly his replies are delivered in a uncoordinated and exaggerated fast pace containing common football cliches which fail to grab my attention or respect..basically he’s winging it ! I wonder if the players have the same problem when MW sets out his tactics and defensive drills ? This. I wanted him here but I'm beginning to think he's just an eloquent Ron Manager. Only two games in but same mistakes as last season in both. That is the concern as he does not seem to have worked out throughout his career that you need to be able to defend to win games. Dykes has scored 2 goals both from the spot. Not a single cross of not in 90 minutes on friday for him to attack.
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Post by Bill on Sept 24, 2020 10:55:58 GMT
Yes I like an overreaction but that performance really worries me for this season. We cannot defend like that. Problem is I have no idea how you change it. Simple get rid of The breadman he is well past his sell buy date
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Post by Bill on Sept 24, 2020 11:01:24 GMT
Warburton and the same two assistants for over a season and still we defend like a pub side. Sorry, not having that. A pub side,as good as that?
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