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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 13, 2021 12:08:50 GMT
Except Lumley's not 'shyte'.
We were glad to have have him when Smithies left (when he ousted Matt Ingram) and he's had some really good spells.
He's also had some poor games, but then he suffered horrendous dogs abuse by some of our great 'fans', to the extent he quit social media. His confidence is probably shot to shit.
He's been with us since the age of 15 and worked bloody hard with no complaints.
I think Rangers fans seriously need to cut him some slack and show him some loyalty and support instead of acting like spoilt brats with some kind of sense of entitlement to top-class players throughout the squad.
Dieng will be off, maybe in the summer - almost certainly by the next. I'd be happy to have Lumley as back up when that time comes.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 13, 2021 13:57:24 GMT
he suffered horrendous dogs abuse by some of our great 'fans', to the extent he quit social media. That's the nature of the beast. Footballers shouldn't be on 'Antisocial Media' in the first place if they know what's good for them, especially younger players. Unless they have an extremely thick skin. |
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Post by Shania on Feb 13, 2021 14:21:32 GMT
If QPR fans are considered being "unrealistic" for wanting to survive in this division he should take a look at Blackburn and Bristol City`s messageboards, just to name a few....
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 13, 2021 14:22:43 GMT
If I was a pro football player,and getting dogs abuse on social media. Id just tell them I may be shit,but a pro,you not even upto shit standard so run along.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 14:36:09 GMT
All this gushing about players getting criticised because of poor performances from fans and is garbage.
.Every team have always players that supporters latch onto to boo or jeer is not something new.
In my time players like Leach ,Wilks Abbott were often berated and laughed at by the watching crowd due to a lack of talent or application.
Some players like Mancini actually managed to turn the boos into cheers by their obvious determination to improve.
Joe Lumley confidence was primarily destroyed by Warburton insistence on the team playing suicidal football in our own penalty area with players incapable of doing that.
Being on social media is something a professional footballer or Manager should think carefully about if their ego or confidence levels are weak.
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Post by Shania on Feb 13, 2021 14:42:33 GMT
All this gushing about players getting criticised because of poor performances from fans and is garbage. .Every team have always players that supporters latch onto to boo or jeer is not something new. In my time players like Leach ,Wilks Abbott were often berated and laughed at by the watching crowd due to a lack of talent or application. Some players like Mancini actually managed to turn the boos into cheers by their obvious determination to improve. Joe Lumley confidence was primarily destroyed by Warburton insistence on the team playing suicidal football in our own penalty area with players incapable of doing that.Being on social media is something a professional footballer or Manager should think carefully about if their ego or confidence levels are weak. Spot on!! |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 13, 2021 16:16:23 GMT
QPR boss rubbishes contract rumours I thought he was on a rolling contract? |
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Post by The General on Feb 13, 2021 19:01:29 GMT
QPR boss rubbishes contract rumours I thought he was on a rolling contract? He is on a rolling contract Rolling towards the door stan |
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Post by hal9thou on Feb 14, 2021 13:29:53 GMT
He's so wrong on so many points in that interview that its embarrassing. 1) Crowd size is irrelevant in the prem because of the vast sea of media rights money flowing in. That's not just my opinion. It's appalling that someone who claims to have been a 'successful trader' is so fucking thick. Or maybe he's just spinning. 2) He is solely responsible for what happened to Lumley.
What an utter tosspot, get the fuck out of town.
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Post by Hitman34 on Feb 14, 2021 13:50:52 GMT
All this gushing about players getting criticised because of poor performances from fans and is garbage. .Every team have always players that supporters latch onto to boo or jeer is not something new. In my time players like Leach ,Wilks Abbott were often berated and laughed at by the watching crowd due to a lack of talent or application. Some players like Mancini actually managed to turn the boos into cheers by their obvious determination to improve. Joe Lumley confidence was primarily destroyed by Warburton insistence on the team playing suicidal football in our own penalty area with players incapable of doing that. Being on social media is something a professional footballer or Manager should think carefully about if their ego or confidence levels are weak. Well said Sparx. fully agree. |
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Post by The General on Feb 14, 2021 14:45:08 GMT
Players getting criticised I'd part of the game always has been
Deflecting the blame on Lumley was his fault
Doing well atm very well but defence and goalkeeper last year was totally his fault
Take it on the chip MW
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Post by The General on Feb 14, 2021 14:46:28 GMT
We all take shit from people your not exempt. If you manage or play for QPR.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 14, 2021 15:56:32 GMT
Dave watrb don't get shit from any mother facker,you get me.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Feb 15, 2021 9:26:03 GMT
the fella is on edge with the "keyboard warriors" its not lumelys fault for being shyte. its this fella's fault for continually picking him and telling him to pass it out from the back. Speaking as a keyboard warrior hits? |
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 15, 2021 10:08:57 GMT
Well, despite the seemingly prevailing view that Lumley deserves any/all the abuse he gets, I still don't think it's right to treat your own players that way.
It's not as if he's Bosingwa!
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Post by Corbray on Feb 15, 2021 10:23:36 GMT
Well, despite the seemingly prevailing view that Lumley deserves any/all the abuse he gets, I still don't think it's right to treat your own players that way. It's not as if he's Bosingwa! exactly, anyone who rips on lumley via his social media is a knuckle dragging twat. its hardly his fault that his confidence and form has dropped. but even so you can still see that lumley is a passionate player who cares about his performance. best thing for joe's career is for him to leave when his contract is up and rebuild his career in league 1. good keeper on his day and has potential, he just wont make it with us sadly |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Feb 15, 2021 12:57:12 GMT
I gotta agree with Hits and Hal to a point, it is Warbs fault for insisting on playing a system that Lumley was so obviously not suited to and very uncomfortable with, and not changing it.
But that doesn't give anyone the right to hound a player the way Lumley was hounded. The knuckle dragging cunts who abused him MUST take the blame too, if you can't see that you're blind.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 15, 2021 13:23:11 GMT
I gotta agree with Hits and Hal to a point, it is Warbs fault for insisting on playing a system that Lumley was so obviously not suited to and very uncomfortable with, and not changing it. But that doesn't give anyone the right to hound a player the way Lumley was hounded. The knuckle dragging cunts who abused him MUST take the blame too, if you can't see that you're blind. I agree. But it's too late for that now as the damage has already been done. As I say, all this crap can be avoided by not being on anti-social media in the first place. Had that been the case Lumley MAY well be thriving for us as we speak, with his confidence intact, (Marbs' possible role in this notwithstanding). Any benefits some of these young players gain from being on these platforms are far outweighed by the significant damage it can cause to their careers. Or they should have an agent/manager running their accounts instead. IMO. |
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Post by BrightonR on Feb 15, 2021 16:01:56 GMT
It’s one thing us expressing our opinions on here, but quite another attacking him on twitter. Hope he can ignore it on the basis that nobody giving him shit would be anywhere near as good as him, or probably achieved as much.
Having said that, is it really too much to ask that a professional goalkeeper should be expected to pass the ball accurately to a teammate when it’s on and know instinctively to get rid if it isn’t?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 16:13:07 GMT
It’s one thing us expressing our opinions on here, but quite another attacking him on twitter. Hope he can ignore it on the basis that nobody giving him shit would be anywhere near as good as him, or probably achieved as much. Having said that, is it really too much to ask that a professional goalkeeper should be expected to pass the ball accurately to a teammate when it’s on and know instinctively to get rid if it isn’t? At last a bit of common sense being expressed. Better than listening to drama queens getting excited. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 15, 2021 16:18:55 GMT
It’s one thing us expressing our opinions on here, but quite another attacking him on twitter. Hope he can ignore it on the basis that nobody giving him shit would be anywhere near as good as him, or probably achieved as much. Having said that, is it really too much to ask that a professional goalkeeper should be expected to pass the ball accurately to a teammate when it’s on and know instinctively to get rid if it isn’t? Agree first para but people's opinions are worth considering. I learnt a lot in my career by listening, I didn't have to take any notice but sometimes a penny dropped. Secondly, a team is one goalkeeper and 10 footballers. There is no need to get a half decent/promising keeper to play football if he can't do it. No one else can make a save but all 10 can pass it around. Even the ones that CAN play fuck up occasionally. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Feb 15, 2021 16:23:49 GMT
Twitter seems to attract these wankers unfortunately. I think it is the fact there is a direct connection.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Feb 15, 2021 17:07:05 GMT
Klopp and Bielsa are ruining their keepers self confidence, I see.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Feb 15, 2021 17:41:40 GMT
Lets be frank,if some of these players took a civil action out on the slander on their playing prowess,it be thrown out of court when judge says I find u shit as said.
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Post by hal9thou on Feb 15, 2021 23:40:17 GMT
Twitter seems to attract these wankers unfortunately.
Twitter has always worked on the basis of instant reaction, by definition nothing on there is a considered response.
It's just noise.
Whilst I think the Lumley thing was appalling and uninformed - the stick should have been aimed elsewhere - a lot of players use social media for commercial reasons. None of them are forced to have Insta / TikTok accounts, celebs are happy to moan about abuse while banking the cheque.
Warburton used that whole interview to hide behind the outrage, while peddling the myth that small clubs (like us) have no place competing for a seat at the top table. Yet this is the same guy who was going on about our history when he was appointed. It's all spin.
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Post by hal9thou on Feb 15, 2021 23:54:08 GMT
Having said that, is it really too much to ask that a professional goalkeeper should be expected to pass the ball accurately to a teammate when it’s on and know instinctively to get rid if it isn’t? Problem is that when GK's confidence is shot away, you have to get them out of the line of fire. And at that point the whole defence was a rolling car crash.
Meanwhile, Senny D had been sent back again to cool his arse in the back end of beyond. That's what happened.
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Post by Shania on Feb 16, 2021 11:13:00 GMT
IMO, It would have been so much better if John Eustace did the talking. Warburton more often than not talks himself into trouble. Again Imo.
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Post by Hitman34 on Feb 16, 2021 14:33:57 GMT
Speaking as a keyboard warrior hits? Of course. The sooner dough-heads contract runs out, the better. Clearly, the fans were correct about poppadom hands but sadly, it took a revolt for crusts to see the error of his ways. 100 odd goals conceded last season was not enough to persuade the bread man alone. the bloke hates to be proved wrong and has now resorted to sniping at the "keyboard warriors" only because............... he was proved wrong! |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 16, 2021 14:36:45 GMT
IMO, It would have been so much better if John Eustace did the talking. Warburton more often than not talks himself into trouble. Again Imo. His comment about the size of the club won't have endeared him to the fanbase. They were tactless, even if they contained some semblance of truth. His comment about having the budget of a bottom 6 Champs club (assuming that's true) was fair enough. It does sound like he's feeling the pressure a bit and was just letting off some steam. The timing of the interview was unfortunate as it coincided with probably his best run of form since being at the club - just when more of the fanbase were warming to him and silencing certain critics. So in hindsight he'd probably have been better advised not to grant Gallagher the interview. (As for Eustace, he's not the manager. Otherwise I'd agree.) |
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Post by Shania on Feb 16, 2021 16:19:15 GMT
IMO, It would have been so much better if John Eustace did the talking. Warburton more often than not talks himself into trouble. Again Imo. His comment about the size of the club won't have endeared him to the fanbase. They were tactless, even if they contained some semblance of truth. His comment about having the budget of a bottom 6 Champs club (assuming that's true) was fair enough. It does sound like he's feeling the pressure a bit and was just letting off some steam. The timing of the interview was unfortunate as it coincided with probably his best run of form since being at the club - just when more of the fanbase were warming to him and silencing certain critics. So in hindsight he'd probably have been better advised not to grant Gallagher the interview. (As for Eustace, he's not the manager. Otherwise I'd agree.) Excatly how I see it, and I for one are one of them who have finally started to warm to him. Kind of! |
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