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Post by Bill on Sept 25, 2020 11:57:08 GMT
Don't you mean he is just incompetent Bill - an opinion you're entitled too of course. But I don't think you mean he's a fraud, as that means he's being deliberately inept, which there's clearly no evidence for. Incompetent fraud call it what you like,all the Rangers and Forrest fans must be wrong then. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 25, 2020 12:01:58 GMT
Don't you mean he is just incompetent Bill - an opinion you're entitled too of course. But I don't think you mean he's a fraud, as that means he's being deliberately inept, which there's clearly no evidence for. Incompetent fraud call it what you like,all the Rangers and Forrest fans must be wrong then. Bill, please can you stay off those Rangers and Forest forums, they are notoriously dark places. I've never know you to be this pessimistic. I fear they've had a really negative effect on your usual chirpy self. |
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Post by Bill on Sept 25, 2020 12:04:08 GMT
Cautiously unrealistic pessimism
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Post by West Acton on Sept 25, 2020 13:49:02 GMT
Eustace,Hughton,Bowyer,Clint Hill,Sean Derry and a host of others. Eustace - lacks experience, already at the club so not going to change much. Hughton - Can't afford. Bowyer - Won't leave Charlton. Hill - Because he is a playing legend he will be a good manager? Derry - Above. Let's have the host of others. good post |
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Post by West Acton on Sept 25, 2020 13:55:33 GMT
Don't you mean he is just incompetent Bill - an opinion you're entitled too of course. But I don't think you mean he's a fraud, as that means he's being deliberately inept, which there's clearly no evidence for. Incompetent fraud call it what you like,all the Rangers and Forrest fans must be wrong then. you sound like David Ike or Piers Corbyn #conspiracy #wobblywarbs #billformanager |
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Post by Bill on Sept 25, 2020 15:10:02 GMT
Eustace - lacks experience, already at the club so not going to change much. Hughton - Can't afford. Bowyer - Won't leave Charlton. Hill - Because he is a playing legend he will be a good manager? Derry - Above. Let's have the host of others. good post Great post still does not alter the fact he is not fit for purpose |
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Post by Bill on Sept 25, 2020 15:10:41 GMT
Incompetent fraud call it what you like,all the Rangers and Forrest fans must be wrong then. you sound like David Ike or Piers Corbyn #conspiracy #wobblywarbs #billformanager You just keep your headin the sand |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 25, 2020 15:31:09 GMT
Incompetent fraud call it what you like,all the Rangers and Forrest fans must be wrong then. Bill, please can you stay off those Rangers and Forest forums, they are notoriously dark places. I've never know you to be this pessimistic. I fear they've had a really negative effect on your usual chirpy self. Cautiously unrealistic pessimism So you admit it's unrealistic? |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 25, 2020 16:43:17 GMT
People people people,its all just views and opinions. The crux of matter is unless we see the day to day in and outs of what he does or dont do we cant make informative statements. And ultimately its not down to us if he stays goes or does les up bum with a dildo. So I shall just let it ride as short or long as it lasts. Enough folk loosing their jobs without me wanting more added.
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Post by Rangers77 on Sept 25, 2020 18:48:53 GMT
Chill. Bill. 👍🏻
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 25, 2020 19:13:47 GMT
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 25, 2020 19:53:56 GMT
Add my name to the list, I'd have sacked him already. And Les of course. Yeah we can keep possession but our build up is real slow, and they're not putting in a shift consistently. The defence we all know about.
One day the fucking penny will drop that investing in a decent gaffer will actually save this bunch of clowns a few quid. Anyone going into the boardroom these days with a shooter needs to use it.
And... I've already told you who'd I'd have lined up for the job. There's talent all over Europe out there.
Meanwhile I hope we smash Boro. I can still see right through Warburton's failings whatever happens.
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Sept 25, 2020 21:08:15 GMT
Add my name to the list, I'd have sacked him already. And Les of course. Yeah we can keep possession but our build up is real slow, and they're not putting in a shift consistently. The defence we all know about. One day the fucking penny will drop that investing in a decent gaffer will actually save this bunch of clowns a few quid. Anyone going into the boardroom these days with a shooter needs to use it. And... I've already told you who'd I'd have lined up for the job. There's talent all over Europe out there. Meanwhile I hope we smash Boro. I can still see right through Warburton's failings whatever happens. who would you replace him with Hal? I must of missed you saying it before |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 25, 2020 21:22:30 GMT
who would you replace him with Hal? I must of missed you saying it before Investment in decent coach would save them money. I like Bruno Lage. Calvalhal's assistant at this level (Swansea etc), went to Benefica (where among other things he got Adel back on track), good ppg ratio, works with a back four, currently unemployed. Can work with a dof. Mid 40s. We're not talking Poch money to tempt him back over here. In other words exactly the sort of profile we should have already been looking at. It's a risk, but is it anymore of a risk than continuing with Warburton who looks a busted flush? |
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Sept 25, 2020 21:30:41 GMT
who would you replace him with Hal? I must of missed you saying it before Investment in decent coach would save them money. I like Bruno Lage. Calvalhal's assistant at this level (Swansea etc), went to Benefica (where among other things he got Adel back on track), good ppg ratio, works with a back four, currently unemployed. Can work with a dof. Mid 40s. We're not talking Poch money to tempt him back over here. In other words exactly the sort of profile we should have already been looking at. It's a risk, but is it anymore of a risk than continuing with Warburton who looks a busted flush? cheers Stan 👍 can't say I know much about him tbh,don't follow football as much as I used too. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 25, 2020 21:42:23 GMT
Whether you are an MW fan or not it is reasonable to ask why he doesn't seem to address problems during or between matches. Sign a useful looking CF but never put a cross over for example. Part of being a fan.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 6, 2020 17:49:28 GMT
Clearly the owners trust him as they've backed him in the transfer market. So the pressure is on him to deliver now but that should be a pressure he relishes. Let's see what we can achieve this season with this squad, with the window still open and another 1 or 2 still to arrive. See no reason why the top 8 isn't a realistic target now.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 6, 2020 18:09:30 GMT
Clearly the owners trust him as they've backed him in the transfer market. So the pressure is on him to deliver now but that should be a pressure he relishes. Let's see what we can achieve this season with this squad, with the window still open and another 1 or 2 still to arrive. See no reason why the top 8 isn't a realistic target now. All depends, we're bound to have injuries, one or two in key positions and its a very different story imo. I'd settle for midtable this season. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 6, 2020 18:15:52 GMT
Clearly the owners trust him as they've backed him in the transfer market. So the pressure is on him to deliver now but that should be a pressure he relishes. Let's see what we can achieve this season with this squad, with the window still open and another 1 or 2 still to arrive. See no reason why the top 8 isn't a realistic target now. All depends, we're bound to have injuries, one or two in key positions and its a very different story imo. I'd settle for midtable this season. We finished midtable last season Ginge. Some progress on that I think is a reasonable expectation. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 6, 2020 18:26:25 GMT
All depends, we're bound to have injuries, one or two in key positions and its a very different story imo. I'd settle for midtable this season. We finished midtable last season Ginge. Some progress on that I think is a reasonable expectation. So you think we are stronger than last season? I don't think so. At least attacking wise we are stull much weaker. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 6, 2020 19:06:32 GMT
We finished midtable last season Ginge. Some progress on that I think is a reasonable expectation. So you think we are stronger than last season? I don't think so. At least attacking wise we are still much weaker. Too early to tell with only 4 games gone and the window still open. We may still be weaker attacking wise but you could argue that we're now defensively stronger which is just as important, if not more so. As I said, my personal view is an improvement on last season's 13th spot would be a reasonable expectation. My main point however, apropos this thread, is that it's clear the board trust MW as they've backed him with significant funds in the market place. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 6, 2020 19:19:30 GMT
If we tighten up the defence we will have a pretty decent season if we don’t will be more of the same
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Post by 1qprdk on Oct 6, 2020 20:00:31 GMT
improvement on last season's 13th spot would be a reasonable expectation I expect top half as well, but will not be too disappointed if we fail that. First of all we still look defensively very fragile, and secondly even a few injuries to key players at the wrong time could make our season much more difficult. |
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Post by Shania on Oct 6, 2020 21:16:55 GMT
8th to 10th would be very good.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 23:00:35 GMT
In a league that contains very mediocre teams this season I think it’s reasonable to expect us to better last years position...MW openly admits that we could have finished higher last term with more belief.
The players signed this season look to be very well scouted on paper and would also appear to have good future potential resale values
Would agree with Stanley that it’s now up to MW and his coaching staff to step up tactically and complete the relatively small piece Jigsaw presented to him from our club.
Of all the players signed I hope that Albert earns himself a renewed contract extension come the end of the season after deservedly winning POY.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 7, 2020 4:35:07 GMT
All depends, we're bound to have injuries, one or two in key positions and its a very different story imo. I'd settle for midtable this season. We finished midtable last season Ginge. Some progress on that I think is a reasonable expectation. I just think, given the fact that this is a season that has been affected by something so unprecedented, some leeway can be given and expectations can be lowered a bit. No fans and games more frequently makes this season a very unique one. |
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Post by Corbray on Oct 7, 2020 6:13:31 GMT
i'd be happy with another midtable season tbh. we're still building a squad and have signed players that still need to be developed and gel together.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 7, 2020 7:11:31 GMT
Be interesting to return to this thread (page 3 onwards) at the end of the season.
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Post by James1979 on Oct 7, 2020 8:20:44 GMT
We finished midtable last season Ginge. Some progress on that I think is a reasonable expectation. So you think we are stronger than last season? I don't think so. At least attacking wise we are stull much weaker. I think it’s very difficult to tell. I’ve not seen too much of our new signings. One thing we will have in abundance is pace. What we will lack is guile of Eze because Chair has not really stepped up. We need Amos and Chair to deliver more. If they can, then think we can be at least on a par with last season. I still worry about our central midfield but I have done since we had Faurlin and Derry |
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Post by Corbray on Oct 7, 2020 8:34:07 GMT
So you think we are stronger than last season? I don't think so. At least attacking wise we are stull much weaker. I think it’s very difficult to tell. I’ve not seen too much of our new signings. One thing we will have in abundance is pace. What we will lack is guile of Eze because Chair has not really stepped up. We need Amos and Chair to deliver more. If they can, then think we can be at least on a par with last season. I still worry about our central midfield but I have done since we had Faurlin and Derry this. it'd be unfair to compare this seasons squad to last season mainly due to eze. i do think we've invested very well in the squad though and i'm happy with all of our signings so far. but our midfield is still lacking both in depth and skill, cameron is old and won't play every game and who knows how amos and ball will turn out this season. we've been linked with alex mowatt from barnsley who's a good player at this level but i'd still prefer johansen from fulham who i think would be an excellent player for our style of play. |
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