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Post by West Acton on Oct 7, 2020 8:41:09 GMT
We said when Freeman left attacking wise we would struggle. Quite the opposite happened
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Post by Corbray on Oct 7, 2020 9:49:23 GMT
We said when Freeman left attacking wise we would struggle. Quite the opposite happened freeman had his flaws though like keeping the ball like he was carrying a baby out of a burning building. he was good for us but i don't think anyone was devestated when he left. eze is a completely different class though, you could put him in wycombe's team and he'd likely keep them up he's that good. we were never gunna replace a talent like eze so have had to strenghthen the team instead. i like who we've brought in though
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 7, 2020 14:52:29 GMT
Bastard, shitty, crappy, pointless international break preventing us from kicking on this Saturday. Grrrrr.... We've truncated the season and still have to make time for this shit?
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Post by Shania on Oct 7, 2020 19:56:07 GMT
The fact that the signings we have made can bring us forward with our without Warburton is very uplifting in opinion. He will not be here forever mind!
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Post by johnnykc on Oct 8, 2020 11:45:29 GMT
Be interesting to return to this thread (page 3 onwards) at the end of the season. Alright, I'm calling a sixth place/ playoff finish....... If we get relegated, I would appreciate everyone forgetting I mentioned this....
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Oct 21, 2020 21:43:44 GMT
Is 6 wins in the last 26 good enough?
What’s everyone thoughts on the job he’s doing?
I’ve got mixed feeling on him right now. I think he has developed the team and last year he worked miracles with the transfer budget he was given.
I also think we have recruited very well this season and have a decent team that imo should of returned more points than we currently have.
Tonight’s result and the Coventry game have been extremely disappointing and his inability to diversify when it comes to tactics is in my opinion really going to cost us points.
He’s stubborn ok the team selection and insistent on playing players out of position and rarely makes changes until the 70th minutes plus even when the games not going to plan.
Is MW found to be his own downfall?
Finally, from a debate perspective and not to insight or invite negative comments but let’s say things don’t improve is there anyone better out there available that could do a job?
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Post by James1979 on Oct 21, 2020 21:49:47 GMT
Didn’t realise that was record. That’s very poor. He’s had less resources than most qpr managers and I think we’ve invested Eze money well.....although you have to wonder why we didn’t sign at least 1 full back!!!!!!!!! I like him and think let’s just see it out to end of the season. Is there anyone else out there who’s better and would join us?
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Post by Shania on Oct 21, 2020 22:01:32 GMT
In theory, Eustace would be a decent option, but Warburton needs to be given this season IMO. We cant keep changing managers because it damages the rebuild of our reputation.
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 21, 2020 22:21:28 GMT
6 in 26 at any club or level is simply not good enough. That is worse than Holloway, McClaren and maybe even the bore that was JFH.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 22:29:36 GMT
Looking at the players MW brought in when he first arrived they were all players he worked with before..all were cheap and all stop gaps used in his first season..
With the amount of goals we conceded last season MW has attempted to shore up the defence and I think we can already see some improvement.there.
Listening to Chris Ramsey ,Hoos and Les last season we are still perhaps a season or Two away from making a real push for promotion just yet.
Despite his obvious failings I’m still confident that MW is the right choice for us at this particular time.
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Oct 21, 2020 22:43:36 GMT
MW’s official comments after the game -
“After the first 20 minutes I thought we were in control of the game,” Warburton said.
“After 20 minutes I’m thinking ‘if we score now the game’s over’.
“What was really disappointing was that we gave a really soft penalty away and then didn’t respond well to it.
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Oct 21, 2020 22:47:47 GMT
Looking at the players MW brought in when he first arrived they were all players he worked with before..all were cheap and all stop gaps used in his first season.. With the amount of goals we conceded last season MW has attempted to shore up the defence and I think we can already see some improvement.there. Listening to Chris Ramsey ,Hoos and Les last season we are still perhaps a season or Two away from making a real push for promotion just yet. Despite his obvious failings I’m still confident that MW is the right choice for us at this particular time. I personally don’t think we done enough defensively from a recruitment perspective. Our defence was a shambles last year and we only recruited one player albeit im over the moon with Rob Dickie. I think most QPR fans new Manning was off and a LB was on the wish list as Wallace is injury prone, past it and not up to scratch. Barbet is also injury prone and we don’t have much depth. I think not recruiting another CB and LB was very nieve. Our recruitment elsewhere was very good though. However, I still believe we have a good enough squad to be mid table if MW plays the new signings over the likes of chair.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 23:21:06 GMT
I would agree...we still need solid replacements for Eze , Wallace ,Cameron and Barbet..has anyone noticed Barbet contribution to both penalties ? He’s half asleep most games.
I’m sure we all didn’t expect all these replacements this window though Maidstone Hoop..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 5:25:30 GMT
Is the clock ticking on is time here?
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 22, 2020 6:31:56 GMT
Is the clock ticking on is time here? 6 wins in 26 is not exactly excelling in the job.
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Post by BrightonR on Oct 22, 2020 7:20:52 GMT
NO manager, can ever expect the continuous backing of their board if they persist in continuously picking the wrong starting line up.
A win was vital to our season yesterday and he blew it with the team selection. As I suspect most of us knew he would. After heavily backing him in the transfer window, I would imagine that there is a growing frustration that he still insists upon picking inferior players and asking them to play in the wrong positions.
What frustrates me most is that we may well have given that backing to the wrong man. Quite possibly, far better to have given it to one that knew how to use it to better effect.
Excuse after excuse with this bloke. How you can express surprise that they were more physical when he picks Chair and Carroll will remain one of life's great mysteries.
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 22, 2020 7:43:49 GMT
NO manager, can ever expect the continuous backing of their board if they persist in continuously picking the wrong starting line up. A win was vital to our season yesterday and he blew it with the team selection. As I suspect most of us knew he would. After heavily backing him in the transfer window, I would imagine that there is a growing frustration that he still insists upon picking inferior players and asking them to play in the wrong positions. What frustrates me most is that we may well have given that backing to the wrong man. Quite possibly, far better to have given it to one that knew how to use it to better effect. Excuse after excuse with this bloke. How you can express surprise that they were more physical when he picks Chair and Carroll will remain one of life's great mysteries. Great post Brights. He got away with his failings like season due to our style of play and how entertaining we were not sure he can be given the same kind of slack this year. The left hand side of our defence has been shit since the start of last season so why has it been addressed?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 22, 2020 7:45:27 GMT
B4 we sacks him,cos it will happen by Jan Names for whom available and suit us pls
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 22, 2020 7:52:23 GMT
With no crowds in ground to get on his teams backs I think they just plodding on. If folk were there letting them know think u see a change in some.
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Post by BrightonR on Oct 22, 2020 8:04:54 GMT
With no crowds in ground to get on his teams backs I think they just plodding on. If folk were there letting them know think u see a change in some. Perhaps we could organise a Zoom meeting with the players. 😂
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 22, 2020 8:09:15 GMT
I think we need more of a message,a Alan mullery car type one should work
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 22, 2020 9:14:34 GMT
You can't give away soft goals like that, he says after every game. Yet soft goals like that away we keep giving.......
Keeper never tested.
I'm as far from being a football manager as is possible. I've more chance of joining a Massai tribe, speaking Maa and moving to Northern Tanzania. But even I knew playing Carroll on the left wing was insane.....
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 22, 2020 9:29:59 GMT
Regardless of if you like a manager or nor you cannot keep yoyr job if you keep losing matches. He needs to find a way and quickly otherwise a change will have to happen.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 22, 2020 9:51:14 GMT
I would agree...we still need solid replacements for Eze , Wallace ,Cameron and Barbet..has anyone noticed Barbet contribution to both penalties ? He’s half asleep most games. I’m sure we all didn’t expect all these replacements this window though Maidstone Hoop.. Anyone notice Barbet going to ground in 6yd box at the feet of forward after second pen? Luckily ball didn't come to him but this would have been pen 3. The guy's a clown.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 22, 2020 9:56:38 GMT
B4 we sacks him,cos it will happen by Jan Names for whom available and suit us pls That's the problem. We clearly couldn't afford Hughton who would have been perfect however you choose to look at it. Imagine if MW was Peaky Blunder? Fans would be apoplectic by now.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 22, 2020 9:58:56 GMT
NO manager, can ever expect the continuous backing of their board if they persist in continuously picking the wrong starting line up. A win was vital to our season yesterday and he blew it with the team selection. As I suspect most of us knew he would. After heavily backing him in the transfer window, I would imagine that there is a growing frustration that he still insists upon picking inferior players and asking them to play in the wrong positions. What frustrates me most is that we may well have given that backing to the wrong man. Quite possibly, far better to have given it to one that knew how to use it to better effect. Excuse after excuse with this bloke. How you can express surprise that they were more physical when he picks Chair and Carroll will remain one of life's great mysteries. Was it a six pointer Brights? You clearly don't like him. It was only a few days ago that we were excellent against an (until recently) Prem side and one of the favourites to go up. Games come thick and fast in this league and you have to expect ups and downs.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 22, 2020 10:00:52 GMT
MW’s official comments after the game - “After the first 20 minutes I thought we were in control of the game,” Warburton said. “After 20 minutes I’m thinking ‘if we score now the game’s over’. “What was really disappointing was that we gave a really soft penalty away and then didn’t respond well to it. I actually agree with that statement. We were controlling the game until that soft penalty. What was really disappointing we our response to the goal which was woeful.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 22, 2020 10:02:01 GMT
Looking at the players MW brought in when he first arrived they were all players he worked with before..all were cheap and all stop gaps used in his first season.. With the amount of goals we conceded last season MW has attempted to shore up the defence and I think we can already see some improvement.there. Listening to Chris Ramsey ,Hoos and Les last season we are still perhaps a season or Two away from making a real push for promotion just yet. Despite his obvious failings I’m still confident that MW is the right choice for us at this particular time. I personally don’t think we done enough defensively from a recruitment perspective. Our defence was a shambles last year and we only recruited one player albeit im over the moon with Rob Dickie. I think most QPR fans new Manning was off and a LB was on the wish list as Wallace is injury prone, past it and not up to scratch. Barbet is also injury prone and we don’t have much depth. I think not recruiting another CB and LB was very nieve. Our recruitment elsewhere was very good though. However, I still believe we have a good enough squad to be mid table if MW plays the new signings over the likes of chair. Spot on there mate.
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Post by spongeparr on Oct 22, 2020 10:10:49 GMT
Yesterday was poor, we looked toothless but I dont think a good PNE looked good either, which shows that we are mroe solid other than the 2 penalties (ive not seen them back yet).
For me, a formation change to 2 up top could be needed in the next game. Chair doesn't do enough for me in the final 3rd and if we aren't pressing high then I would like to see him out and Dykes in.
Adomah looked good when he came on and should start the next game.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 22, 2020 10:13:53 GMT
OK,on paper we have a decent looking squad - I'm not sure actually how GOOD it is but it isn't being given much of a chance playing chuckle brothers football. We create nothing. Albert has played a few minutes and immediately changes the play by moving forward and committing opponents.
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