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Post by Bill on Feb 26, 2024 19:10:17 GMT
When he puts his mind to it,he is a good player.
Been a passenger for to long.
I still think he will be off as will get a rise in wages and the killer is a sizeable signing on fee.
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Post by Corbray on Feb 26, 2024 21:20:30 GMT
When he puts his mind to it,he is a good player. Been a passenger for to long. I still think he will be off as will get a rise in wages and the killer is a sizeable signing on fee. pretty much this. would love him to stay but i can't really blame him if he does leave and i won't begrudge him too much if he carries on his form from rotherham and keeps us up lol. he likely sees his ceiling as higher than ours next season so probably has one eye on joining a promoted team.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 28, 2024 6:37:03 GMT
When he puts his mind to it,he is a good player. Been a passenger for to long. I still think he will be off as will get a rise in wages and the killer is a sizeable signing on fee. This. 2 months ago no one would come near him due to his performances and the fact he looked like he'd jacked it in. Now, he's probably got heads perked up again. Few assists and a goal not to mention significantly improved performances.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 28, 2024 12:16:10 GMT
When he puts his mind to it,he is a good player. Been a passenger for to long. I still think he will be off as will get a rise in wages and the killer is a sizeable signing on fee. This. 2 months ago no one would come near him due to his performances and the fact he looked like he'd jacked it in. Now, he's probably got heads perked up again. Few assists and a goal not to mention significantly improved performances. Agree, think he will be off. But still think he will be in for a nasty shock. Did you notice against Rotherham he pulled up suddenly and felt his hamstring? It turned out to be fine, but he is clearly terrified its going to go again. Improved as he has the last couple of games he is still some way short of the player who would almost explode through defences and score at will. Am sure he could do a job for a lot of Champ clubs but if he thinks, say, one of the relegated clubs is going to come in for him in the close season with a really juicy three year contract, no string attached, well, I'd just say "lets wait and see".
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Feb 28, 2024 13:22:18 GMT
I don't think it is impossible that he will stay, mainly helped by the point stains made about the opportunity elsewhere not being as lucrative as he thinks. There is a good chance he wont even be able to match what he is on now.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 28, 2024 18:51:56 GMT
Willlock probably our only player good enough for the Premiership. He holds all the cards and can see only one conclusion. He is OFF he could do a job for a lot of Champ clubs Hmm, some quite contrasting views.
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Post by The General on Feb 28, 2024 19:11:44 GMT
Hes been a passenger for past two seasons
Great player but will not be here end of season
Losing Willock and Field and Dunne all on a free awful
Prob Leeds bound or top six championship
Time to move on now which is a shame
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Post by The General on Feb 28, 2024 19:12:15 GMT
Actually Dunne on a one year option
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 29, 2024 9:26:25 GMT
Willlock probably our only player good enough for the Premiership. He holds all the cards and can see only one conclusion. He is OFF he could do a job for a lot of Champ clubs Hmm, some quite contrasting views. Think everyone agrees he has the ability - question is over fitness and application. I saw comments on Sat that he was by far our best player. Well in natural ability, probably so. But on how he has impacted matches over the last year? Would say he is well down the list. If his hamstring (and head) are good for the rest of the season then he could become our most impactful player but at the moment I would put him behind the two centre backs and Chair.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 29, 2024 10:26:09 GMT
Hmm, some quite contrasting views. Think everyone agrees he has the ability - question is over fitness and application. I saw comments on Sat that he was by far our best player. Well in natural ability, probably so. But on how he has impacted matches over the last year? Would say he is well down the list. If his hamstring (and head) are good for the rest of the season then he could become our most impactful player but at the moment I would put him behind the two centre backs and Chair. Would have to disagree. Chair et al have been in the team from the get go and we’ve struggled massively. Assuming, like you say, Willock stays fit and is up for it, the impact he could have in the run in is huge, more than any other single player imo. A goal and an assist last Saturday shows how capable he is of turning a loss or a draw into a win and let’s face it, we need 3 points wherever we can get them.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 29, 2024 12:14:33 GMT
Think everyone agrees he has the ability - question is over fitness and application. I saw comments on Sat that he was by far our best player. Well in natural ability, probably so. But on how he has impacted matches over the last year? Would say he is well down the list. If his hamstring (and head) are good for the rest of the season then he could become our most impactful player but at the moment I would put him behind the two centre backs and Chair. Would have to disagree. Chair et al have been in the team from the get go and we’ve struggled massively. Assuming, like you say, Willock stays fit and is up for it, the impact he could have in the run in is huge, more than any other single player imo. A goal and an assist last Saturday shows how capable he is of turning a loss or a draw into a win and let’s face it, we need 3 points wherever we can get them. Don't think we are disagreeing that much tbh. I've already said I agree he is capable of being our best player. I would tho' say Chair has won us matches a few times more often this season - eg almost single handed up at Blackburn. But lets say you are right and Willock can reach levels Chair can't even come close. The question is: will he do that week in week out till the end of the season? If you were to make a book on who would have more goals and assists by the end of the season between Willock and Chair the odds would probably be 50/50 IMHO. And our change in fortunes has actually been far more down to our defensive solidity than anything from either of them I wd say. But if Willock goes on one of his runs like he did under boil-face, very happy days.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 29, 2024 12:16:54 GMT
Not much between them on stats this season. Exact same amount of goals and think two extra assists from chair who it feels like has had way more game time/minutes on pitch.
Both players firing can only be a good thing for us.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 29, 2024 12:46:25 GMT
Would have to disagree. Chair et al have been in the team from the get go and we’ve struggled massively. Assuming, like you say, Willock stays fit and is up for it, the impact he could have in the run in is huge, more than any other single player imo. A goal and an assist last Saturday shows how capable he is of turning a loss or a draw into a win and let’s face it, we need 3 points wherever we can get them. Don't think we are disagreeing that much tbh. I've already said I agree he is capable of being our best player. I would tho' say Chair has won us matches a few times more often this season - eg almost single handed up at Blackburn. But let’s say you are right and Willock can reach levels Chair can't even come close. The question is: will he do that week in week out till the end of the season? If you were to make a book on who would have more goals and assists by the end of the season between Willock and Chair the odds would probably be 50/50 IMHO. And our change in fortunes has actually been far more down to our defensive solidity than anything from either of them I wd say. But if Willock goes on one of his runs like he did under boil-face, very happy days. Totally get what you’re saying. Willock has been a passenger in a fair few games this season. I suppose the point I was making is if his head/body is straight and he plays to his optimum then for me he’s the biggest game changer on the pitch. Big if obviously but I’m looking at it from the perspective that if all our players played to their potential he would be the one who would have the most impact on how things pan out for us.
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Post by 1973ranger on Mar 2, 2024 22:23:33 GMT
Another good performance a wonderful pass for Dykes to cross for Chair to score. Like having a new player.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 29, 2024 22:23:13 GMT
Really don't think we get the best out of Willock when played on the right. Remember he was far more effective under Warbs when played centrally, and it allowed him to link up well with Chair on the left, whom he also got the best out of.
I'd be far more inclined to play Andersen on the right and push Willock inside. Remember too Andersen initially played on the right on his debut which resulted in his great assist for Frey to score on his debut.
It's really the only tweak I would make to this team.
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Post by Corbray on Mar 29, 2024 22:27:22 GMT
Really don't think we get the best out of Willock when played on the right. Remember he was far more effective under Warbs when played centrally, and it allowed him to link up well with Chair, whom he also got the best out of. I'd be far more inclined to play Andersen on the right and push Willock inside. Remember too Andersen initially played on the right on his debut which resulted in his great assist for Frey to score on his debut. It's really the only tweak I would make to this team. chair and willock always seem to play better when they can link up together. they're star crossed lovers and marti is keeping them apart
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Post by awin on Mar 29, 2024 22:48:47 GMT
Really don't think we get the best out of Willock when played on the right. Remember he was far more effective under Warbs when played centrally, and it allowed him to link up well with Chair, whom he also got the best out of. I'd be far more inclined to play Andersen on the right and push Willock inside. Remember too Andersen initially played on the right on his debut which resulted in his great assist for Frey to score on his debut. It's really the only tweak I would make to this team. chair and willock always seem to play better when they can link up together. they're star crossed lovers and marti is keeping them apart Maybe it’s best he does as we know how star crossed lovers historically end up.
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Post by 1973ranger on Mar 29, 2024 23:20:49 GMT
Very big decision for Willock this summer, Does he walk away to go to another championship club with who knows as his coach or does he sign again and stay with a coach who clearly rates him highly to help build something at this club.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 29, 2024 23:30:36 GMT
Not fussed
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 30, 2024 6:24:30 GMT
I'd like him to re sign.
Got quality in abundance and when on his game he's a real problem for opposition defences. Whips in a good ball too.
Need a tad more consistency from him but on the whole since MC has come in he's looked a lot better than the Willock under Boots.
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Post by James1979 on Mar 30, 2024 6:41:35 GMT
Think it’s all confidence with Willock. Hes getting it back but slow process. I think a contract extension makes sense for both player and club.
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Post by 1973ranger on Mar 30, 2024 7:56:31 GMT
Lovely footballer and the decision he has to make is money and play anywhere or a coach and club where people love him. Sign again with a clause and give it a go next season.
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Post by Rangers77 on Mar 30, 2024 8:22:59 GMT
Really don't think we get the best out of Willock when played on the right. Remember he was far more effective under Warbs when played centrally, and it allowed him to link up well with Chair on the left, whom he also got the best out of. I'd be far more inclined to play Andersen on the right and push Willock inside. Remember too Andersen initially played on the right on his debut which resulted in his great assist for Frey to score on his debut. It's really the only tweak I would make to this team. This. And if playing centrally, he can still drift right and provide Jim and Andersen with options. Remember the pass to Andersen, who was wide right, for him to set Chair up?
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Post by West Acton on Apr 21, 2024 8:32:53 GMT
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 21, 2024 10:04:12 GMT
I thought he was brilliant yesterday. All over the pitch, linking play got a few shots in & even got four tackles under his belt. Really pleased with him but again will he sign that deal?
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 21, 2024 11:54:04 GMT
I thought he was brilliant yesterday. All over the pitch, linking play got a few shots in & even got four tackles under his belt. Really pleased with him but again will he sign that deal? I don't think he will. Playing for a move imo.
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 21, 2024 20:24:10 GMT
I think a full pre season under Marti and tactics that suit his game more and not the survival football we’re having to play will suit him down to the ground but of course it’s all about money.
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Post by Bill on Apr 21, 2024 22:54:02 GMT
I think a full pre season under Marti and tactics that suit his game more and not the survival football we’re having to play will suit him down to the ground but of course it’s all about money. Not bothered,at times he is lazy and a bottle job.
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 26, 2024 13:50:58 GMT
Sunderland bound by all accounts.
Make sense for him with his brother 20 mins down the road.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 26, 2024 15:09:38 GMT
no ill will towards him tbh if he does go. he did very well for us all things considered.
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