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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 12, 2020 14:24:17 GMT
Dieng
Kakay Dickie Barbet Wallace
Amos Cameron Carroll
BOS Dykes Chair
No room for new signings in the starting 11.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 12, 2020 14:31:14 GMT
Chair and Cameron positions at risk given efforts so far
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 12, 2020 14:47:07 GMT
Chair and Cameron positions at risk given efforts so far Very true. But think Cameron is more likely to start than Ball and who would replace Chair? I believe Willock and Adomah aren't fit yet. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 12, 2020 16:12:44 GMT
Dieng
Kakay Dickie Barbet Hammerlein
Ball
BOS Carroll Adomah
Dykes Bonne
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 12, 2020 16:13:44 GMT
Dieng Kakay Dickie Barbet Hammerlein Ball BOS Carroll Adomah Dykes Bonne This 👍 |
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Post by The General on Oct 12, 2020 18:36:34 GMT
Dieng Kakay Dickie Barbet Hammerlein Ball BOS Carroll Adomah Dykes Bonne This 👍 This 2 👍 Rangers 77 new manager possibly |
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Post by The General on Oct 12, 2020 18:37:58 GMT
If we played that team week in week out we would be in the top 10 at least possibly top 6
He won't. Though because he doesn't know his best side still grrrr
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 12, 2020 19:01:09 GMT
I dont really get why Ball isn't in front of Cameron.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 12, 2020 19:03:10 GMT
Because MW screwed up making him captain.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 12, 2020 19:03:41 GMT
I dont really get why Ball isn't in front of Cameron. Because he can't drop his captain, would be my guess. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 12, 2020 19:35:43 GMT
I dont really get why Ball isn't in front of Cameron. Because he can't drop his captain, would be my guess. Balls younger and been given a new reasonable length contract. And although I dont mind GC he's looking like he's a potential liability |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 12, 2020 20:30:01 GMT
I don’t buy this if your made captain you won’t be dropped
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 12, 2020 21:07:16 GMT
Because he can't drop his captain, would be my guess. Balls younger and been given a new reasonable length contract. And although I dont mind GC he's looking like he's a potential liability I agree but you'd think twice before dropping your captain over a regular team player. Also recall his reasons for taking the armband from Barbet and giving it to Cameron. Anyway don't we still have two captains - one for the club and one for the team? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 6:37:39 GMT
Being made match day captain appears to mean less and less to clubs and managers these days..has there been any real thought or reasoning behind into giving Barbet last season or Cameron this season the armband ?
I saw a interview recently with Paul Ince describing how during his time at Man Utd the players were terrified by the thought of being on the wrong side of a tongue lashing from Roy Keane for underperforming on the pitch.
For me Geoff Cameron is an odd choice for the armband as I don’t feel his performances on the pitch last season earned him the right to be captain.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 13, 2020 8:16:13 GMT
So who would be a good choice for captain? Ball isn't a shoe in every week, not Wallace ffs and if it was Amos or Chair or Barbet everybody would be moaning, so Dickie then? Even after all the incomings we still don't have that leader.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 8:42:19 GMT
If Lee Wallace is a shoe in for L/B in MW eyes then it really only leaves him as being the only logical choice as the added responsibility may up his game to what some of us expected from him.
Dickie needs a season to adjust to new teammates and surroundings as added pressure may effect his performances.
It’s also possible that Albert may be considered once he becomes a regular starter and fans favourite.
The club could do a lot worse than looking at Josh Falkingham 30 M/F terrier and captain of Harrogate Town on tv last night
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Post by Corbray on Oct 13, 2020 9:09:43 GMT
warbs could easily spin the captaincy as being more symbolic and important off the pitch rather than a captain being a guarenteed starter. cameron won't start every game nor is he good enough too now, barbet is likely the vice captain but dickie is probably seen as our future leader
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Post by West Acton on Oct 13, 2020 9:12:12 GMT
So who would be a good choice for captain? Ball isn't a shoe in every week, not Wallace ffs and if it was Amos or Chair or Barbet everybody would be moaning, so Dickie then? Even after all the incomings we still don't have that leader. anyone who can call heads or tails job done Derry and Hill never needed armband to be leaders under Adel. Have no idea why people get worked up over who is captain. Redundant role in modern game |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 9:24:38 GMT
Adel was made captain because he was our best player and to massage his ego, it also upped his game....at most successful clubs the best player and leader is the captain.
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Post by Corbray on Oct 13, 2020 9:59:17 GMT
Adel was made captain because he was our best player and to massage his ego, it also upped his game....at most successful clubs the best player and leader is the captain. exactly, modern captains aren't the same as they used to be. how many PL and EFL captains would you honestly say fit the mold of old school captain? the only ones that come to mind for me are jordan henderson and ben mee although there are likely others about. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 13, 2020 12:16:34 GMT
Just checked the calendar. Extraordinary run of SEVEN games over the next 3 weeks, starting with Bournemouth. That'll give us a decent gauge of where we are this season.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 13, 2020 13:02:37 GMT
Just checked the calendar. Extraordinary run of SEVEN games over the next 3 weeks, starting with Bournemouth. That'll give us a decent gauge of where we are this season. Yep, and after that there's a run of 9 games in 28 days I believe. Its gonna be a brutal old season for everyone. |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 13, 2020 13:16:49 GMT
So who would be a good choice for captain? Ball isn't a shoe in every week, not Wallace ffs and if it was Amos or Chair or Barbet everybody would be moaning, so Dickie then? Even after all the incomings we still don't have that leader. anyone who can call heads or tails job done Derry and Hill never needed armband to be leaders under Adel. Have no idea why people get worked up over who is captain. Redundant role in modern game We absolutely don't have the characters in the side to appoint a figure head captain (like Adel). I don't see a Clint, a Sean Derry, a Dunne or even a Ned anywhere these days. That, plus Warburton's questionable motivational skills, is why you want someone who can rally the troops, why whoever skippers the side needs to lead. Mourinho: "when you have a leader your team is one step ahead". Klopp: Henderson, Milner, Van Dyck. All leaders, all skipper material.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 13, 2020 13:44:20 GMT
But you don’t have to be the captain to rally the players that’s my point. It’s either in your character to do it or it’s not the armband is irrelevant
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 13, 2020 14:46:41 GMT
But you don’t have to be the captain to rally the players that’s my point. It’s either in your character to do it or it’s not the armband is irrelevant Everything you say is true Wests. However if a manager has to choose which player to drop between two, he'll be under less pressure to drop the team player over his captain. That's why he's made it harder for himself giving Geoffrey the armband. That's the only counter argument. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 13, 2020 14:49:33 GMT
But you don't want to be undermining the captain either as that's bad for moral and team spirit. A captain still needs leadership qualities even if he's not the only one that's got them.
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 13, 2020 15:55:53 GMT
Would not have caroll anywhere near the starting 11. absolute pony player.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 13, 2020 15:57:41 GMT
Would not have caroll anywhere near the starting 11. absolute pony player. Not for me either, still hasn't worked out a game is 90 minutes. |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 13, 2020 16:20:04 GMT
Dieng Kakay Dickie Masterson Hammerlein Ball BOS Willock Adomah Dykes Bonne
apologies for the edits 
Problem is MW well known allergy to two up top. Very unlikely that your 11 (or mine) will turn out
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Post by Shania on Oct 13, 2020 16:43:24 GMT
Adomah is captain material.
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