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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 12, 2020 11:45:05 GMT
Proper striker's goal for the Sweaties yesterday. Shows what he's capable of if you get a decent cross over.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 12, 2020 12:04:55 GMT
I tried to google a vid of dykes,
I think I was on a wrong site,it was disgusting 😊
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 12, 2020 12:19:55 GMT
I tried to google a vid of dykes, I think I was on a wrong site,it was disgusting 😊 If you think Dykes is bad try Googling a player who played for France a few years ago. Rod Dodji Fanni. I dare you😄 |
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Post by hal9thou on Oct 12, 2020 12:28:54 GMT
if you get a decent cross over.
key. We've been poor at servicing from dangerous areas for a long long time.
Didn't manage it with Big Smith and that point MW didn't want a trad 9. I think the penny has dropped that at our level if you don't have at least one striker who can do some damage in the air you might as well forget it.
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Post by Knocker on Oct 14, 2020 18:03:48 GMT
Will be knackered for Saturday.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 14, 2020 18:08:32 GMT
Can't blame them though, scored a proper poacher's goal last game.
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Post by awin on Oct 15, 2020 8:29:39 GMT
And a quality assist last night.
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 15, 2020 8:46:17 GMT
Got a bit about him has Dykes and a very good start to his club and international career.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 15, 2020 8:54:35 GMT
Let's hope we play to his strengths and not starve him of service. Looks to be more to him than just a big target.
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 15, 2020 9:04:02 GMT
Let's hope we play to his strengths and not starve him of service. Looks to be more to him than just a big target. I think Adomah's way of playing will suit him better than BOS who never seems to get a decent cross in. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 15, 2020 9:07:12 GMT
Let's hope we play to his strengths and not starve him of service. Looks to be more to him than just a big target. I think Adomah's way of playing will suit him better than BOS who never seems to get a decent cross in. I think BOS is starting to, 73: www.qpr.co.uk/videos/features/alternative-angle-sheffield-wednesday/ Our FBs aren't bad at it either now. Reckon it's just a matter of time, and gelling in. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 15, 2020 9:17:53 GMT
Fingers cross Stan as think Dykes can really become a very good striker at this level.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 15, 2020 9:47:58 GMT
Let's hope we play to his strengths and not starve him of service. Looks to be more to him than just a big target. I think Adomah's way of playing will suit him better than BOS who never seems to get a decent cross in. Thank God, I was starting to think I was the only one who hasn't seen all the great crosses going in from BOS and Kakay. |
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Post by Shania on Dec 30, 2020 10:29:24 GMT
I`m not sure he`s getting enough help as a lone striker. What can we do to bring the best out of him?
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Post by West Acton on Dec 30, 2020 10:32:19 GMT
Thought you said just needed to be told to shoot more and on target 😁
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Post by 1973ranger on Dec 30, 2020 10:34:57 GMT
Can we try to sell him in this window already? He is a very poor player imo and we need quality options upfront. I am most likely in the minority here but Dykes is not a poor player as he has shown for Scotland at International level where Steve Clarke has made use of him in a positive way. He has Christie, Fraser, Armstrong all midfielders that run beyond him and are coached to do so, Who do we have? Carroll, Cameron, Ball and Samuel who has no game awareness at all. While Dykes is no Superstar he can be better than he has shown in a system that compliments his strengths. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 11:07:36 GMT
I have called Dykes a donkey a couple of games ago as he appeared to offer nothing at all up front.
His first touch looks poor along with his static positioning for poaching goals.
It could be he needs more time to settle or another partner to click with. Can not fault his effort right now in a team lacking confidence and decent service.
Paul Furlong got plenty of abuse before settling down and doing a good job.
I also have thought long and hard with what both Ginger Ninja and West Acton described yesterday in the match thread about coating off our own club and the negative vibes it may give off...I’m just as guilty and apologise.
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Post by Shania on Dec 30, 2020 11:11:27 GMT
Can we try to sell him in this window already? He is a very poor player imo and we need quality options upfront. I am most likely in the minority here but Dykes is not a poor player as he has shown for Scotland at International level where Steve Clarke has made use of him in a positive way. He has Christie, Fraser, Armstrong all midfielders that run beyond him and are coached to do so, Who do we have? Carroll, Cameron, Ball and Samuel who has no game awareness at all. While Dykes is no Superstar he can be better than he has shown in a system that compliments his strengths. True that,but I feel he lacks physique required for this league. Anonther matter is that he looks knackered.. |
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 30, 2020 11:14:43 GMT
As 73 said, looks great for Scotland. But Steve Clarke is smart enough to know he needs pacey players running beyond him to make the most of what he brings to the table. Our Manager seems to think he has the ability to play a lone striker role with very little support.
I'll also add that his confidence looks shot, which is hardly surprising given the thankless task he's being given week in, week out.
Sick of seeing players dug out. This is a good squad being totally ruined by a stubborn twat of a manager.
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Post by 1973ranger on Dec 30, 2020 11:14:44 GMT
I am most likely in the minority here but Dykes is not a poor player as he has shown for Scotland at International level where Steve Clarke has made use of him in a positive way. He has Christie, Fraser, Armstrong all midfielders that run beyond him and are coached to do so, Who do we have? Carroll, Cameron, Ball and Samuel who has no game awareness at all. While Dykes is no Superstar he can be better than he has shown in a system that compliments his strengths. True that,but I feel he lacks physique required for this league. Anonther matter is that he looks knackered.. The league is not the issue, How he is being used is. Get runners in and aroind him from midfield and we may have a player. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Dec 30, 2020 11:15:27 GMT
As 73 said, looks great for Scotland. But Steve Clarke is smart enough to know he needs pacey players running beyond him to make the most of what he brings to the table. Our Manager seems to think he has the ability to play a lone striker role with very little support. I'll also add that his confidence looks shot, which is hardly surprising given the thankless task he's being given week in, week out. Sick of seeing players dug out. This is a good squad being totally ruined by a stubborn twat of a manager. 100% |
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Post by Shania on Dec 30, 2020 11:28:54 GMT
The title of this thread is changed to a more "pedagogical" and constructive one. Cough,Cough.
Back on topic; I would now like to see what Kelman and Bettache can do. Movement around him is what I think we need.
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Post by Shania on Dec 30, 2020 11:38:39 GMT
I have called Dykes a donkey a couple of games ago as he appeared to offer nothing at all up front. His first touch looks poor along with his static positioning for poaching goals. It could be he needs more time to settle or another partner to click with. Can not fault his effort right now in a team lacking confidence and decent service. Paul Furlong got plenty of abuse before settling down and doing a good job.I also have thought long and hard with what both Ginger Ninja and West Acton described yesterday in the match thread about coating off our own club and the negative vibes it may give off...I’m just as guilty and apologise. That is true. It would have been great if he was brought in to work with the senior pros. |
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Post by BrightonR on Dec 30, 2020 11:48:44 GMT
I have called Dykes a donkey a couple of games ago as he appeared to offer nothing at all up front. His first touch looks poor along with his static positioning for poaching goals. It could be he needs more time to settle or another partner to click with. Can not fault his effort right now in a team lacking confidence and decent service. Paul Furlong got plenty of abuse before settling down and doing a good job.I also have thought long and hard with what both Ginger Ninja and West Acton described yesterday in the match thread about coating off our own club and the negative vibes it may give off...I’m just as guilty and apologise. That is true. It would have been great if he was brought in to work with the senior pros. He’s been busy with the youngsters Shania. Teaching the likes of Chair how not to take free kicks and corners.😂 |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 30, 2020 11:53:32 GMT
Agree about getting runners around him to flick onto etc that’s correct but what about bringing the ball down and protecting it (Hughill, heider or Zamora style) and bringing others into the game or winning a freekick
Can anyone honestly say he’s shown any sign, given his size and stature, of being able to do that?
Yes we probably can make him play bit better by getting people around him but surely there is responsibility on himself to also make himself look good/better by doing what I’ve just suggested.
Plant your feet make the ball hit your chest then give it or the cb comes over the top of you and you Nick a freekick
He rarely even gives a foul away against him which tells me he’s not actually challenging or battling for the ball. He can do way more then he’s showing currently so if he’s been evaluated harshly by some fans large part of that is down to himself.
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 30, 2020 12:03:31 GMT
Agree about getting runners around him to flick onto etc that’s correct but what about bringing the ball down and protecting it (Hughill, heider or Zamora style) and bringing others into the game or winning a freekick Can anyone honestly say he’s shown any sign, given his size and stature, of being able to do that? Yes we probably can make him play bit better by getting people around him but surely there is responsibility on himself to also make himself look good/better by doing what I’ve just suggested. Plant your feet make the ball hit your chest then give it or the cb comes over the top of you and you Nick a freekick He rarely even gives a foul away against him which tells me he’s not actually challenging or battling for the ball. He can do way more then he’s showing currently so if he’s been evaluated harshly by some fans large part of that is down to himself. Agree with you Wests, and that is the basics for a striker of his build - which begs the question why doesn't he do it? You then have to ask if he's being coached to do it. And again we come back to the manager, his coaches and their seeming incompetence. |
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Post by rscot on Dec 30, 2020 12:04:59 GMT
Low hanging fruit, the 1st thing and easiest thing to remedy and help Dykes and the team overall. TAKE CHAIR OFF THE SET-PIECES.
Now look at some of the players in the QPR team, like BOS, Chair, Dykes. Now we know Dykes’s background, he got into football late etc, etc. I’ve said in previous posts, give me him for a week or two and I’d be able to improve his technique (this isn’t exclusive to Dykes, by the way) in a noticeable way, quickly. It’s not difficult if you know how.
But as I said look at others, not just Dykes, look at their FUNDAMENTALS. You have so called professional footballers like BOS and Chair who are completely 1-footed. Who can barely cross a ball. In my opinion all attacking players should be able to have a good go at finishing with their weaker foot from close range. Wingers that can’t cross, can’t put a decent ball in the box, again poor fundamentals.
I could improve Dykes technique, quickly, no problem. Get the basics right, the fundamentals, everything comes from there.
I could go on about this subject for hours and this isn’t limited to QPR players, I see guys at the biggest Premiership clubs with pretty poor fundamentals in certain aspects of their game. Totally 1-footed, poor technique etc. I honestly don’t know what a lot of these coaches do at training.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 12:14:08 GMT
Hughill for me wasn’t good at holding the ball up and laying it of ...for me he was a battering ram who could and did win the team free kicks and generally make a nuisance of himself to the CBS...scored a few great goals but missed the target more often than not..not getting regular game time at Norwich...would I like him back..no I would give Dykes a few games rest and play Bonne
Dykes did press their F/B and C/Bs and won possession on at least two occasions but was wrongly penalised by the ref..he also signalled to the ref that he felt the Norwich players were diving to gain free kicks.
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Post by rscot on Dec 30, 2020 12:27:37 GMT
Given the proper coaching you could turn Dykes from a £1.5 million player into a £10,£15 eventually a £20 million player. He could reach the same levels as Mitrovic of Fulham, at least, within a couple of seasons, pretty quickly. If you know how to do it.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 30, 2020 12:32:44 GMT
Stan not everything needs to be coached somethings you just do. He’s a professional international footballer. You learn the game as a kid and you perfect it as an adult
I think on occasions it’s bit lazy to blame coaching for short comings sometimes you have to look at the individual and say do you actually want to do it?
If he’s not learnt to plant his feet at 25years of age I’m not sure any amount of coaching will teach him that as he should have learned it in the parl. I say that about Dykes but that could apply to any of our players who are coming up short ie Chair being unable to use his left foot
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