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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 12:18:42 GMT
Not really, you've used a player who signed for Coventry as a stick to hit Dykes with. Did you speak to him in person to ascertain how disappointed he was not to have signed for QPR? Also, you replied before my edit, do you think fans would have been universally happy with him signing for QPR when he had never scored a goal in English football? If so, you haven't been paying attention. For, hopefully, the last time - but that will require you to read what I - and others - are saying and absorb: No-one has said Dykes is great, few have said he is good. Most have said that he scores x amount of goals per x amount of minutes he plays and that is all the defence he gets. We all feel frustrated that we don't have a Les Ferdinand, Gary Bannister, Rodney Marsh or even bloody Leroy Roseinior up front and have Dykes and a kid with an even worse goal scoring record. He's just not as shit as you say and you seem rather obsessed with him to the extent I genuinely think you need help. I don’t understand why it should matter Gyokeres hadn’t scored in English football because donkey hadn’t either. I saw your comment about Austin today and would agree that he makes the most of charitable publicity but what is forgotten is that we were in a vulnerable position in the league at Xmas because Donkey hadn’t scored in around 23 games iirc. Austin changed that season from being a disaster. Donkey has needed to be spoon-fed goals on a plate since the day he arrived and nothing has changed. If he’s not as bad as I think why did Beale and Ainsworth not have him as first choice, even Critchley brought in Lowe. Dykes has a poor/average record in the Championship. We should always be looking to replace him or dropping him where possible. Are you really struggling to understand the arguments being made? No one thinks he's great but as things stand he's the best we've got (stats wise). He's not so shit that he's the worst ever striker to have ever played for us - as you claim- and wouldn't struggle to score goals 3 divisions below this as you said this morning however. That's pure lunacy. |
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Post by BrightonR on Nov 8, 2023 12:24:32 GMT
Lee Hoos tried to accuse this forum of being an "echo-chamber" to my face, in an attempt to downplay the overall significance of fan sentiment from MBs. Reading this thread alone categorically disproves this. Perhaps he got his forums mixed up!😂 |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 8, 2023 12:37:09 GMT
I don’t understand why it should matter Gyokeres hadn’t scored in English football because donkey hadn’t either. I saw your comment about Austin today and would agree that he makes the most of charitable publicity but what is forgotten is that we were in a vulnerable position in the league at Xmas because Donkey hadn’t scored in around 23 games iirc. Austin changed that season from being a disaster. Donkey has needed to be spoon-fed goals on a plate since the day he arrived and nothing has changed. If he’s not as bad as I think why did Beale and Ainsworth not have him as first choice, even Critchley brought in Lowe. Dykes has a poor/average record in the Championship. We should always be looking to replace him or dropping him where possible. Are you really struggling to understand the arguments being made? No one thinks he's great but as things stand he's the best we've got (stats wise). He's not so shit that he's the worst ever striker to have ever played for us - as you claim- and wouldn't struggle to score goals 3 divisions below this as you said this morning however. That's pure lunacy. Steve Clarke gets 1 goal every 3.5 games out of him at international level (237 mpg). For QPR it's worse at 1 goal every 4.5 games (356mpg). |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Nov 8, 2023 12:42:49 GMT
I would have taken Gyökeres over Dykes but never knew it was a choice between those two. And only based on hindsight.
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Post by sparks on Nov 8, 2023 12:48:34 GMT
Dykes has a poor/average record in the Championship. We should always be looking to replace him or dropping him where possible. Are you really struggling to understand the arguments being made? No one thinks he's great but as things stand he's the best we've got (stats wise). He's not so shit that he's the worst ever striker to have ever played for us - as you claim- and wouldn't struggle to score goals 3 divisions below this as you said this morning however. That's pure lunacy. And for the record, Steve Clarke gets 1 goal every 3 games out of him at international level. (237 mpg) How many goals would you guess that he’s scored are against teams other than the likes of San Marino Stan? Recently International football qualification groups and friendlies are notoriously sub standard imo. How many proper striker goals has he scored for either Scotland or us. I’ve heard McCoist and other Scottish studio pundits being meh about him playing for Scotland in the past. |
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Post by hal9thou on Nov 8, 2023 12:50:01 GMT
In which case you will also be horribly disappointed. QED. Now its sentences like this which make wonder about your credibility, which is a shame as I've been in agreement with much of what you've said on here. No one assumes that you think Dykes is great. It's just that some fairly persuasive evidence has been put in front of you (ie the stats, the list of other more successful strikers Stan kindly provided you with who all cost less) and instead of simply saying 'yeah, that doesn't look great' you come out with some irrelevant stuff about what people might be imagining about you. You're better than that. |
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Post by sparks on Nov 8, 2023 13:14:33 GMT
I would have taken Gyökeres over Dykes but never knew it was a choice between those two. And only based on hindsight. Warburton chose an elder foreign striker on loan from Brighton, can’t remember his name but he too was poor. Hindsight could be irrelevant if Warburton’s ex number 2 sees Gyokeres in training most days. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 13:28:15 GMT
And for the record, Steve Clarke gets 1 goal every 3 games out of him at international level. (237 mpg) How many goals would you guess that he’s scored are against teams other than the likes of San Marino Stan? Recently International football qualification groups and friendlies are notoriously sub standard imo. How many proper striker goals has he scored for either Scotland or us. I’ve heard McCoist and other Scottish studio pundits being meh about him playing for Scotland in the past. The second point you make is subjective, the first point is answered by stats. Dykes' international goals have been scored against: Czech Republic Slovakia Moldova Austria Israel Faroe Islands Ukraine (2) Norway Regardless of your opinion of the overall standard of qualification groups, that's not a bad output. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 13:30:23 GMT
I would have taken Gyökeres over Dykes but never knew it was a choice between those two. And only based on hindsight. Warburton chose an elder foreign striker on loan from Brighton, can’t remember his name but he too was poor. Hindsight could be irrelevant if Warburton’s ex number 2 sees Gyokeres in training most days. Jan Malakar. If you want to discuss how he was the worst forward ever to play for us you have an ally here. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 8, 2023 13:36:37 GMT
I would have taken Gyökeres over Dykes but never knew it was a choice between those two. And only based on hindsight. Warburton chose an elder foreign striker on loan from Brighton, can’t remember his name but he too was poor. Hindsight could be irrelevant if Warburton’s ex number 2 sees Gyokeres in training most days. hemed? |
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Post by sparks on Nov 8, 2023 13:43:09 GMT
How many goals would you guess that he’s scored are against teams other than the likes of San Marino Stan? Recently International football qualification groups and friendlies are notoriously sub standard imo. How many proper striker goals has he scored for either Scotland or us. I’ve heard McCoist and other Scottish studio pundits being meh about him playing for Scotland in the past. The second point you make is subjective, the first point is answered by stats. Dykes' international goals have been scored against: Czech Republic Slovakia Moldova Austria Israel Faroe Islands Ukraine (2) Norway Regardless of your opinion of the overall standard of qualification groups, that's not a bad output. Honest question are you related or have had some previous connection with him, my patience with him ended a long time ago as a striker. |
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Post by sparks on Nov 8, 2023 13:45:00 GMT
Warburton chose an elder foreign striker on loan from Brighton, can’t remember his name but he too was poor. Hindsight could be irrelevant if Warburton’s ex number 2 sees Gyokeres in training most days. hemed? I’m not sure if it was Hemed. or Malakar now? Think Jack Clarke was also on loan at same time. Edit..Thinking about it I would guess Hemed as I’m sure he went to my mates club Charlton the next season. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 14:14:08 GMT
The second point you make is subjective, the first point is answered by stats. Dykes' international goals have been scored against: Czech Republic Slovakia Moldova Austria Israel Faroe Islands Ukraine (2) Norway Regardless of your opinion of the overall standard of qualification groups, that's not a bad output. Honest question are you related or have had some previous connection with him, my patience with him ended a long time ago as a striker. We're not related, former/current 'bum chums' or have knowingly met. It's not about patience, it's about not coming out with shite that he's the worse striker to play for QPR ever and getting the arse-ache when anyone points out that his goalscoring stats - regardless of how poor they are - are currently better than Sinclair Armstrong's. I hate Queen (the band, not the late monarch) but it would be idiotic to deny that they sold a lot more records than King King (who I prefer) have but that's not to say either sold as many as The Beatles.... See? |
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Post by sparks on Nov 8, 2023 14:50:18 GMT
Honest question are you related or have had some previous connection with him, my patience with him ended a long time ago as a striker. We're not related, former/current 'bum chums' or have knowingly met. It's not about patience, it's about not coming out with shite that he's the worse striker to play for QPR ever and getting the arse-ache when anyone points out that his goalscoring stats - regardless of how poor they are - are currently better than Sinclair Armstrong's. I hate Queen (the band, not the late monarch) but it would be idiotic to deny that they sold a lot more records than King King (who I prefer) have but that's not to say either sold as many as The Beatles.... See? It’s impossible to argue Donkey has better goal stats over Armstrong for blatantly obvious reasons mentioned many many times. Every striker that’s ever played for us has had an ability of some sort….pace, power, shooting, aerially dominant, positionally clever movement, having a trick or two, shielding the ball and bringing others into the game or even just been seen to be giving 100% effort. For the umpteenth time what ability has Donkey ever brought to the table in 3 and half seasons. |
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Post by systemsguy on Nov 8, 2023 14:56:45 GMT
I love how posters on this board are arguing on the merits of Dykes when I noticed on X / Twitter today that Fulham have a lovely little ditty now about "Loftus Road is falling down" and he's called LEON Dykes in one of the later choruses! 😂
We are so insignificant in football these days let alone West London...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 15:14:51 GMT
We're not related, former/current 'bum chums' or have knowingly met. It's not about patience, it's about not coming out with shite that he's the worse striker to play for QPR ever and getting the arse-ache when anyone points out that his goalscoring stats - regardless of how poor they are - are currently better than Sinclair Armstrong's. I hate Queen (the band, not the late monarch) but it would be idiotic to deny that they sold a lot more records than King King (who I prefer) have but that's not to say either sold as many as The Beatles.... See? It’s impossible to argue Donkey has better goal stats over Armstrong for blatantly obvious reasons mentioned many many times. Every striker that’s ever played for us has had an ability of some sort….pace, power, shooting, aerially dominant, positionally clever movement, having a trick or two, shielding the ball and bringing others into the game or even just been seen to be giving 100% effort. For the umpteenth time what ability has Donkey ever brought to the table in 3 and half seasons. Jesus Christ.... Dykes scores one goal every 430 ish minutes, Armstrong every 1308 at the moment.... That's FACT, not opinion, F.A.C.T Dykes has scored 29 goals for us, Armstrong 1. FACT, not opinion. F.A.C.T And for the umpteenth + 1 time, over 3 years Dykes has scored 29 goals in 3 years which isn't great but is a far better record than a hell of lot of dross who have played for us up front... All you have to argue with is OPINION, not FACT and it's absolutely astonishing that you can't separate the two. |
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Post by sparks on Nov 8, 2023 15:29:22 GMT
Facts… previous 3 managers didn’t consider Donker first choice.
Facts…your failure to answer any direct questions from anyone questioning your posts on Donkey.
Fact..dopey Matty liking ur post.🤣
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 8, 2023 15:31:36 GMT
It is also a fact that if he doesn’t score he has usually contributed bugger all. It’s a myth that he wins lots of headers, gets flick-ons, has good hold up play and bullies defenders. That last point is really laughable. If Cifuentes can get him performing, or find a way where his limited ability isn’t too much of a problem, then he will be a great appointment. If he’s true to his interviews so far I could see us playing without Dykes or Armstrong if he feels neither is good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 15:32:04 GMT
Facts… previous 3 managers didn’t consider Donker first choice. Facts…your failure to answer any direct questions from anyone questioning your posts on Donkey. Fact..dopey Matty liking ur post.🤣 What questions have I avoided? |
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Post by MattyRangers on Nov 8, 2023 15:34:45 GMT
Facts… previous 3 managers didn’t consider Donker first choice. Facts…your failure to answer any direct questions from anyone questioning your posts on Donkey. Fact..dopey Matty liking ur post.🤣 I really grate on you don't I sparks?  Shouldn't you be watching more under 18s football matches anyway ya weird old fella? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 15:34:52 GMT
It is also a fact that if he doesn’t score he has usually contributed bugger all. It’s a myth that he wins lots of headers, gets flick-ons, has good hold up play and bullies defenders. That last point is really laughable. If Cifuentes can get him performing, or find a way where his limited ability isn’t too much of a problem, then he will be a great appointment. If he’s true to his interviews so far I could see us playing without Dykes or Armstrong if he feels neither is good enough. Yep, his all round game is lacking what we need but at the moment he's got the best scoring rate wise we have. Would love us to play without Dykes or Armstrong as neither are good enough for this level if we are to harbour any ambition beyond scraping survival. |
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Post by hubble on Nov 8, 2023 15:43:03 GMT
Jesus H Christ, 69 pages and counting on Lyndon bloody Dykes. Life's too short!
So let's put it in a nutshell: he's crap, but as a main striker, he's all we've got. For now.
Armstrong is also crap, but he's potentially got potential.
Kelman is also crap, but somehow he might, possibly, have some hidden potential.
That is our brilliant striker situation
However, I think when all the squad is fit, Marti might not start any of them. And he'll bring in someone else in January.
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Post by sparks on Nov 8, 2023 15:44:08 GMT
Facts… previous 3 managers didn’t consider Donker first choice. Facts…your failure to answer any direct questions from anyone questioning your posts on Donkey. Fact..dopey Matty liking ur post.🤣 I really grate on you don't I sparks? Shouldn't you be watching more under 18s football matches anyway ya weird old fella? Are u bladdered or off ur nut again, what have you come to say or are you just going to like everybody’s posts for no particular reason? Never seen a young fella act more like a rent boy. |
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Post by MattyRangers on Nov 8, 2023 15:46:01 GMT
I really grate on you don't I sparks? Shouldn't you be watching more under 18s football matches anyway ya weird old fella? Are u bladdered or off ur nut again, what have you come to say or are you just going to like everybody’s posts for no particular reason? Never seen a young fella act more like a rent boy. Very angry man aren't you sparks. Calm down petal, we are all Rangers & this is just the internet - it isn't real life. Hugs & kisses x |
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Post by sparks on Nov 8, 2023 15:48:57 GMT
Are u bladdered or off ur nut again, what have you come to say or are you just going to like everybody’s posts for no particular reason? Never seen a young fella act more like a rent boy. Very angry man aren't you sparks. Calm down petal, we are all Rangers & this is just the internet - it isn't real life. Hugs & kisses x So what have you come to say other than to like posts or say ditto I agree? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 15:50:02 GMT
Jesus H Christ, 69 pages and counting on Lyndon bloody Dykes. Life's too short!So let's put it in a nutshell: he's crap, but as a main striker, he's all we've got. For now. Armstrong is also crap, but he's potentially got potential. Kelman is also crap, but somehow he might, possibly, have some hidden potential. That is our brilliant striker situation However, I think when all the squad is fit, Marti might not start any of them. And he'll bring in someone else in January. So don't read it then! |
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Post by hubble on Nov 8, 2023 15:54:58 GMT
Jesus H Christ, 69 pages and counting on Lyndon bloody Dykes. Life's too short!So let's put it in a nutshell: he's crap, but as a main striker, he's all we've got. For now. Armstrong is also crap, but he's potentially got potential. Kelman is also crap, but somehow he might, possibly, have some hidden potential. That is our brilliant striker situation However, I think when all the squad is fit, Marti might not start any of them. And he'll bring in someone else in January. So don't read it then!
Well it's too late for that, isn't it, you doofus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2023 16:01:55 GMT
Well it's too late for that, isn't it, you doofus.
 You clicked on the 69th page of the thread to moan about there being 69 pages.... Have a think about that |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 8, 2023 16:14:09 GMT
We can celebrate the 70th shortly which will be an RFI record for a player 😄
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