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Post by jfrabbit on Aug 30, 2024 15:35:33 GMT
Way more vitriolic on here about him than elsewhere. Love this site but thought the original poll (not taking into account games played) calling him the worst ever QPR striker was ludicrous. Everyone suddenly gone all sentimental and rose tinted about him. His stats here were appalling. Abysmal. Why? Because the person responsible for recruiting him couldn't spot a striker in a billion years. The same person, incidentally, who rated Kellman as a red hot sharp shooter. Why? Because Les was appointed by an 'all the gear, no idea' mentality which ultimately took us to a hair's breadth of the third tier. Fuck all of them, frankly. I'll be happier when Hoos is on his arse and out of the door, then we can finally close the chapter. Hoos is long gone from decision making lol |
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 30, 2024 22:17:04 GMT
Everyone suddenly gone all sentimental and rose tinted about him. His stats here were appalling. Abysmal. Why? Because the person responsible for recruiting him couldn't spot a striker in a billion years. The same person, incidentally, who rated Kellman as a red hot sharp shooter. Why? Because Les was appointed by an 'all the gear, no idea' mentality which ultimately took us to a hair's breadth of the third tier. Fuck all of them, frankly. I'll be happier when Hoos is on his arse and out of the door, then we can finally close the chapter. Hoos is long gone from decision making lol
yeah I know but as CEO he's still the pathway to the owners. Tbf though you'd have to say that the current arrangements seem to be working OK.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 31, 2024 11:40:16 GMT
When you see Birmingham have paid £15mil plus £5mil add ons did we under sell donkey?
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 31, 2024 11:46:37 GMT
Can’t fault RFI - we talked him up nicely, greatly appreciating all his positive attributes and highlighting his goalscoring prowess and unequalled tremendous work rate.
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Post by Rangers77 on Aug 31, 2024 11:46:46 GMT
When you see Birmingham have paid £15mil plus £5mil add ons did we under sell donkey? I'm delighted with the £1m we paid Brum for him 👍🏻 |
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Post by 2Loftus on Aug 31, 2024 12:01:22 GMT
Chat on my Tonbridge Angels old farts teams' WhatsApp...  |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 31, 2024 12:04:50 GMT
A club spending its way in to meltdown, the tractor wankers doing the same. Be a huge fire sale in Suffolk come end of May
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Post by Corbray on Aug 31, 2024 12:14:18 GMT
When you see Birmingham have paid £15mil plus £5mil add ons did we under sell donkey? on that comparison i think birmingham got a bargain on stansfield as he's 20x the player dykes is |
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Post by 2Loftus on Aug 31, 2024 12:27:18 GMT
When you see Birmingham have paid £15mil plus £5mil add ons did we under sell donkey? I'd be suspicious of the figure of £15m... BBC say 'undisclosed', but in excess of £10m plus a bonus if Brum are promoted and a sell-on clause. Sky said £12m. But whatever the amount, it's bonkers for a League One club and will probably come back to bite them somewhere down the line. But then maybe that won't matter to them if their owners have serious Premier League aspirations and are willing to bankroll the club by writing off debts. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 31, 2024 12:30:29 GMT
Bennys can’t even say premiership let alone make it
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Post by The General on Aug 31, 2024 12:36:05 GMT
Theve spent 25 million this year
How can they do this as we cannot
Dont they have ffp in division 1
Please explain someone
Their crowds are not massive either
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Post by awin on Aug 31, 2024 12:47:48 GMT
League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend.
or better explained
Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2024 8:19:45 GMT
Back to Lyndon
Came on the 74th minute as a sub - First action was to give away a foul.
Won a free kick on the wing and had an attempted header blocked. That's about all . Sound familiar.
Meanwhile Willock hooked again - heading rapidly for the Adel Hall of fame, great talent no brain.
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Post by awin on Sept 1, 2024 9:48:29 GMT
Back to Lyndon Came on the 74th minute as a sub - First action was to give away a foul. Won a free kick on the wing and had an attempted header blocked. That's about all . Sound familiar. Meanwhile Willock hooked again - heading rapidly for the Adel Hall of fame, great talent no brain. Richards didn't even make Cambridge's bench. Dozzell subbed after 60 mins Armstrong hooked after 62 |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 1, 2024 9:50:04 GMT
Who are these people?
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Post by Corbray on Sept 1, 2024 10:01:47 GMT
maybe awin is trying to go the ted route and try his hand at some poetry? needs to have his poem in italics if he's to really have us feeling profound. |
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Post by Marc on Sept 2, 2024 16:09:31 GMT
Hoos is long gone from decision making lol
yeah I know but as CEO he's still the pathway to the owners. Tbf though you'd have to say that the current arrangements seem to be working OK.
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Post by systemsguy on Sept 2, 2024 16:32:13 GMT
League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend. or better explained Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees. Reading between the lines, are these transfers in L 1/2 including signing on fees for the players thus lessening the wages perhaps? Amortization (a trick we've used successfully) can spread wages and transfer fees over an extra year as in Kelman's case for us to stay in FFP A clever little scam back in the 90s in rugby union was to just give the keys (and deeds) to a £250K house to a SH player and then pay them a taxable wage as well to look above board... |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 2, 2024 18:30:37 GMT
Experienced that back then. Old boss, president of pretty good RU club gave a player he wanted a job to join. Wasn’t really a job. He showed up but it was all about the club.
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 2, 2024 19:05:17 GMT
yeah I know but as CEO he's still the pathway to the owners. Tbf though you'd have to say that the current arrangements seem to be working OK.
I thought Hoos was Chairman now (Noury CEO) correct, more haste less speed or something As Chair he's still got the speed dial to Rube and the boys, but it could easily be a more nominal role. Might even suit him (and us) better than the CEO role. |
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 2, 2024 19:14:45 GMT
League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend. or better explained Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees. Amortization (a trick we've used successfully) can spread wages and transfer fees over an extra year as in Kelman's case for us to stay in FFP A clever little scam back in the 90s in rugby union was to just give the keys (and deeds) to a £250K house to a SH player and then pay them a taxable wage as well to look above board... I think anything spent on the player comes into the SMCP equation, otherwise you get a coach and horses through the regs. Mind you, I wouldn't put it past them to have left a few doors open. The actual fee paid is the exempt bit. What I'm not clear about is chapter and verse on the consequences of exceeding the 60% in the event of promotion, and in the event of not going up. |
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Post by 2Loftus on Sept 2, 2024 19:28:34 GMT
So, Dykes in the Scotland squad.
What are the odds on him getting crocked and not making it back into the Birmingham team until October/November?
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Post by jfrabbit on Sept 3, 2024 15:21:36 GMT
yeah I know but as CEO he's still the pathway to the owners. Tbf though you'd have to say that the current arrangements seem to be working OK.
I thought Hoos was Chairman now (Noury CEO) He is but got fuck all say on transfers. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 6, 2024 21:18:14 GMT
- The striker squandered a glorious opportunity in the first half when Scotland were 1-0 down on what he described as a " frustrating and tough night".
Oh dear.
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Post by EGRanger on Sept 6, 2024 23:14:43 GMT
I don’t understand the disrespectful thread on a player who always gave 💯 . I see the same disrespect being shown to Frey appears to have stopped.
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Post by jfrabbit on Sept 7, 2024 3:42:57 GMT
I don’t understand the disrespectful thread on a player who always gave 💯 . I see the same disrespect being shown to Frey appears to have stopped. An unfit out of shape Frey gave more than Dykes ever did. Where you get this 'player who always gave 💯' statement is frankly laughable and leads me to ask two things? Have you ever actually watched him play regularly? Do you regard the performances he put in as a player giving 100%? |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 7, 2024 7:23:45 GMT
If you read this thread from the beginning you will see he was given a very fair crack of the whip to start with. The way the comments went over the four years he was here is entirely consistent with what we saw from him. Even when it was acknowledged that his service was poor it was still the case that he just drifted out of a game rather than try to make something happen for himself. When he did get service he managed to fall over his own feet too often - that’s on the odd occasion when he could be found in the right place. One decent game every eight or nine was about it. Lucky boy to have made it anywhere near the ‘top’.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 7, 2024 7:27:50 GMT
If you read this thread from the beginning you will see he was given a very fair crack of the whip to start with. The way the comments went over the four years he was here is entirely consistent with what we saw from him. Even when it was acknowledged that his service was poor it was still the case that he just drifted out of a game rather than try to make something happen for himself. When he did get service he managed to fall over his own feet too often - that’s on the odd occasion when he could be found in the right place. One decent game every eight or nine was about it. Lucky boy to have made it anywhere near the ‘top’. reminds me of that striker at Lids who came from cfc, always injured and poor most of time |
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Post by West Acton on Sept 7, 2024 7:32:25 GMT
Lazy is not something I would accuse him of being. Just thought he was a poor player often in wrong place which perhaps made him look like he was not grafting.
Regardless of what we think of his ability he seemed popular squad member so on that basis I would give him benefit of the doubt as in most squads if your not putting it in your alienated.
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 7, 2024 8:07:57 GMT
If you read this thread from the beginning you will see he was given a very fair crack of the whip to start with. The way the comments went over the four years he was here is entirely consistent with what we saw from him. Even when it was acknowledged that his service was poor it was still the case that he just drifted out of a game rather than try to make something happen for himself. When he did get service he managed to fall over his own feet too often - that’s on the odd occasion when he could be found in the right place. One decent game every eight or nine was about it. Lucky boy to have made it anywhere near the ‘top’. reminds me of that striker at Lids who came from cfc, always injured and poor most of time Bamford? Yeah, very strange career. |
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