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Post by The General on Jan 30, 2020 20:55:38 GMT
It's a known fact that if you keep dismantling something it will collapse
How can we ever build anything if it dismantled every time we build it
It's impossible to go forward in any business in that manner
I understand the situation fully but do not know how we can go forward as a club in this manner
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2020 20:57:18 GMT
Perhaps we turning to demolition
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Post by The General on Jan 30, 2020 21:02:00 GMT
I understand that no club should spend more than they earn
I guess it's about what standard of club that your happy with and ambition levels are different for everyone
Obviously most on here are happy with mid table to lower championship football I'm not knocking that I just find it hard still that we are where we are
It pisses me right off that we are a lower championship club owned by billionaires I suppose
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2020 21:05:44 GMT
It's like India and the cast system. The prem the elite. Leeds weds etc the middle class,rest we drinking in the water buffalo drinking hole.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jan 30, 2020 21:06:33 GMT
It's a known fact that if you keep dismantling something it will collapse How can we ever build anything if it dismantled every time we build it It's impossible to go forward in any business in that manner I understand the situation fully but do not know how we can go forward as a club in this manner I don’t but I do know if we carried on spending like we have done, we’d be getting clobbered by fines worth 10 times what Nahki sold for and ultimately points deductions. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 30, 2020 21:07:38 GMT
I understand that no club should spend more than they earn I guess it's about what standard of club that your happy with and ambition levels are different for everyone Obviously most on here are happy with mid table to lower championship football I'm not knocking that I just find it hard still that we are where we are It pisses me right off that we are a lower championship club owned by billionaires I suppose You're not alone in that mate. If Fernandes had been a bit (lot) more savvy and less naive we might not be in this mess. But it's where we are and it's something, whether we like it or not, we have to live with. It sucks. But staying within the FFP rules long term will benefit us. |
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Post by The General on Jan 30, 2020 21:13:31 GMT
How can we ever go forward Ginge with FFP in place I don't see how we can grow as a club
Will we always have this situation until we build a bigger ground which is at least 5 yrs away or does it get better when we have paid off the 21 million
Sorry mate really like Nacki wells and we are going to struggle badly without his goals that why I'm fed up tonight
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Post by The General on Jan 30, 2020 21:18:27 GMT
I do agree that the way we were behaving in the premier league was a disgrace financially for a small club like ourselves
I think we are doing things correctly now foe a business but letting all our best players go is a road to disaster in the long term
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Post by Bill on Jan 30, 2020 21:21:28 GMT
We have been well and truly shafted with this ffp nonsense.
I bet if it were another club like West Ham fuck all would happen..
Change the rules while dishing the dirt on us and then points deduction for later offenders it stinks
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2020 21:21:47 GMT
There is no point in going prem
Unless u throw money at it. The game is so loaded to the few.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 21:34:04 GMT
It's a known fact that if you keep dismantling something it will collapse How can we ever build anything if it dismantled every time we build it It's impossible to go forward in any business in that manner I understand the situation fully but do not know how we can go forward as a club in this manner I don’t but I do know if we carried on spending like we have done, we’d be getting clobbered by fines worth 10 times what Nahki sold for and ultimately points deductions. What have we spent? Our big problem was the contracts given out as our record signing is only around the 10 million mark. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 30, 2020 21:35:30 GMT
How can we ever go forward Ginge with FFP in place I don't see how we can grow as a club Will we always have this situation until we build a bigger ground which is at least 5 yrs away or does it get better when we have paid off the 21 million Sorry mate really like Nacki wells and we are going to struggle badly without his goals that why I'm fed up tonight brentford are managing it as are Preston and dare I say it Millwall |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 30, 2020 21:36:31 GMT
We have been well and truly shafted with this ffp nonsense. I bet if it were another club like West Ham fuck all would happen.. Change the rules while dishing the dirt on us and then points deduction for later offenders it stinks life stop moaning |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 30, 2020 21:40:27 GMT
It pisses me right off that we are a lower championship club owned by billionaires I suppose Gen, it wouldn't matter if we were owned by ten trillionaires - FFP rules still apply i.e. clubs can now only spend within what they're able to generate as a viable business. I totally get the frustration with it all though. At least we have a long-term plan in place with a new stadium and Warren Farm, both of which should ultimately and hopefully allow the club to compete more on a fiscal and sustainable even footing, with the increased revenue that both ventures should eventually generate. I guess we just need to see the bigger picture, however difficult that is in this age of instant gratification. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jan 30, 2020 21:42:05 GMT
I don’t but I do know if we carried on spending like we have done, we’d be getting clobbered by fines worth 10 times what Nahki sold for and ultimately points deductions. What have we spent? Our big problem was the contracts given out as our record signing is only around the 10 million mark. At one stage we had one of the highest wage bills in Europe apparently. So I’d say we spent quite a lot and far more than we made. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2020 21:42:10 GMT
Long term is one thing.next century is another.
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 30, 2020 21:45:23 GMT
It's a known fact that if you keep dismantling something it will collapse How can we ever build anything if it dismantled every time we build it It's impossible to go forward in any business in that manner I understand the situation fully but do not know how we can go forward as a club in this manner But it won't collapse Gen. We will have a mediocre 2nd half the season, finish at the lower end of mid-table, we'll bring in 5 or 6 new players in the summer and we'll go again next year! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 21:49:15 GMT
What have we spent? Our big problem was the contracts given out as our record signing is only around the 10 million mark. At one stage we had one of the highest wage bills in Europe apparently. So I’d say we spent quite a lot and far more than we made. We gave out contracts that were too long and with no clauses in them. Washington was about the last player we spent good money on and that was less than we got for Charlie |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jan 30, 2020 21:57:36 GMT
At one stage we had one of the highest wage bills in Europe apparently. So I’d say we spent quite a lot and far more than we made. We gave out contracts that were too long and with no clauses in them. Washington was about the last player we spent good money on and that was less than we got for Charlie I don’t get what your point is. FFP is based on profit loss and turnover so that includes wages. In years gone by our wage bill was nearly a third more than the entire turnover of the club. The third highest in the premier league and more than a team that made the champions league final. That’s just as, if not more damaging than paying high transfer fees for player. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 22:05:27 GMT
My point is the idiots running the club gave out contracts which has crippled us for the mid to long term future. Not tranfers fees and I get the P&L side of things.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jan 30, 2020 22:16:04 GMT
My point is the idiots running the club gave out contracts which has crippled us for the mid to long term future. Not tranfers fees and I get the P&L side of things. I think we all know that. Repeating it over and over and over again every few weeks won’t change the situation though unfortunately. |
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Post by The General on Jan 30, 2020 22:19:43 GMT
It's a known fact that if you keep dismantling something it will collapse How can we ever build anything if it dismantled every time we build it It's impossible to go forward in any business in that manner I understand the situation fully but do not know how we can go forward as a club in this manner But it won't collapse Gen. We will have a mediocre 2nd half the season, finish at the lower end of mid-table, we'll bring in 5 or 6 new players in the summer and we'll go again next year! Yeah I suppose your right Tarbs Nacki who 😂😂 |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 30, 2020 22:20:10 GMT
My Mrs calls me a female cock every week,I havnt changed
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jan 30, 2020 22:21:34 GMT
My Mrs calls me a female cock every week,I havnt changed She calls you hen? |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 30, 2020 22:30:47 GMT
Repeating it over and over and over again every few weeks won’t change the situation though unfortunately. Spleen venting can be therapeutic though Itso. Better to let it out on here than against the cat...or the wife 😁 |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jan 30, 2020 22:35:59 GMT
Repeating it over and over and over again every few weeks won’t change the situation though unfortunately. Spleen venting can be therapeutic though Itso. Better to let it out on here than against the cat...or the wife 😁 Very true Stan, good point. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 30, 2020 22:39:56 GMT
Not gonna lie. This one hurts.
A proven quality honest striker who loves the club and WANTED to be here.
The amount of money we’ve wasted on absolute wankers and we couldn’t find the funds to make this happen for a 29 year old in electric form really irks me.
We’ve got rid of the wages of Scowen, BFG, Mlakar, Smith (by all accounts) yet couldn’t work out a deal to compete with Bristol fucking City?
We were gonna spend a few million on a Scottish defender were we not? So the funds are there.
Fucking gutted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 22:43:19 GMT
Not gonna lie. This one hurts. A proven quality honest striker who loves the club and WANTED to be here. The amount of money we’ve wasted on absolute wankers and we couldn’t find the funds to make this happen for a 29 year old in electric form really irks me. We’ve got rid of the wages of Scowen, BFG, Mlakar, Smith (by all accounts) yet couldn’t work out a deal to compete with Bristol fucking City? We were gonna spend a few million on a Scottish defender were we not? So the funds are there. Fucking gutted. If we are unloading players due to FFP then clearly we would not have had the money to buy McKenna. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 30, 2020 22:44:09 GMT
Perhaps his wages was the sticking point Jimmy...no doubt a lot higher than McKenna's...Totally share your frustration mate.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 30, 2020 22:46:12 GMT
Not gonna lie. This one hurts. A proven quality honest striker who loves the club and WANTED to be here. The amount of money we’ve wasted on absolute wankers and we couldn’t find the funds to make this happen for a 29 year old in electric form really irks me. We’ve got rid of the wages of Scowen, BFG, Mlakar, Smith (by all accounts) yet couldn’t work out a deal to compete with Bristol fucking City? We were gonna spend a few million on a Scottish defender were we not? So the funds are there. Fucking gutted. If we are unloading players due to FFP then clearly we would not have had the money to buy McKenna. Didn’t we make a bid for him? If that’s the case why would we of? |
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