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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 21, 2020 9:07:02 GMT
Season 20/21Final standingsGoalscorer | Goals | Games | Pens | Ratio | Dykes
| 12 | 41 | 4 | 1:3 | Austin
| 8 | 21 |
| 1:3 | Chair
| 8 | 44 |
| 1:5 | Johansen
| 4 | 21 |
| 1:5
| Bonne | 3 | 16 |
| 1:5 | Willock | 3 | 29 |
| 1:10 | Dickie
| 3 | 44 |
| 1:15
| Adomah
| 2 | 12 |
| 1:6 | Kane | 2 | 26 |
| 1:13 | Barbet
| 2 | 45 |
| 1:22 |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 21, 2020 9:16:33 GMT
Season 20/21Dykes 2 in 2 Chair 1 in 3 2 pens for Dykes and scraps the rest of the time.
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Post by Hitman34 on Sept 21, 2020 9:17:44 GMT
Season 20/21Dykes 2 in 2 Chair 1 in 3 we are in big trouble this seasn Stan. we are still shipping copious amounts of goals per game but at the same time, we do not have the players at the other end of the pitch to bang them in. watched dykes for for games now (2 for scotland) and he looks bang average. I was spot on, on this thread last season when i said hugill will bang in 10 to 15 goals and wells would get us between 15 and 20. this season, i can only see dykes getting 8 to 10 goals, oteh 2 to 4 goals. we are deep in the shit.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 21, 2020 9:32:13 GMT
Season 20/21Dykes 2 in 2 Chair 1 in 3 we are in big trouble this seasn Stan. we are still shipping copious amounts of goals per game but at the same time, we do not have the players at the other end of the pitch to bang them in. watched dykes for for games now (2 for scotland) and he looks bang average. I was spot on, on this thread last season when i said hugill will bang in 10 to 15 goals and wells would get us between 15 and 20. this season, i can only see dykes getting 8 to 10 goals, oteh 2 to 4 goals. we are deep in the shit. Hits. I think Dykes is half decent but needs crosses something our team never produce. We are less inventive this year and couple that with fact the manager ignores the defensive part of the game spells a long season for us.
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Post by Corbray on Sept 21, 2020 9:55:28 GMT
the club will likely panic in the last week of october and bring in an experienced striker like last season when we brought in hugill and wells.
i could see us bringing in someone like vydra on loan to shore things up but i'd rather we brought in bonne from charlton. we are lacking creativity and a quality CM more so though. we won't be able to rely on the style of play from last season as we simply don't have the players for it.
i do think dykes will get about 15 this season, he looks like a quality player but he's not getting the support of another striker or the attacking midfielders which is letting him down
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 21, 2020 9:58:51 GMT
2 weeks left to get our business done...
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 21, 2020 11:41:59 GMT
Season 20/21Dykes 2 in 2 Chair 1 in 3 we are in big trouble this seasn Stan. we are still shipping copious amounts of goals per game but at the same time, we do not have the players at the other end of the pitch to bang them in. watched dykes for for games now (2 for scotland) and he looks bang average. I was spot on, on this thread last season when i said hugill will bang in 10 to 15 goals and wells would get us between 15 and 20. this season, i can only see dykes getting 8 to 10 goals, oteh 2 to 4 goals. we are deep in the shit. You are in your element when you think we are in the shit. What a depressing outlook to have in life. I prefer to judge our new striker on what I observe and I like the look of him. Presumably you have arrived at your 8-10 goals based on his 1 per game so far then?
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Post by Hitman34 on Sept 21, 2020 15:54:26 GMT
we are in big trouble this seasn Stan. we are still shipping copious amounts of goals per game but at the same time, we do not have the players at the other end of the pitch to bang them in. watched dykes for for games now (2 for scotland) and he looks bang average. I was spot on, on this thread last season when i said hugill will bang in 10 to 15 goals and wells would get us between 15 and 20. this season, i can only see dykes getting 8 to 10 goals, oteh 2 to 4 goals. we are deep in the shit. You are in your element when you think we are in the shit. What a depressing outlook to have in life. I prefer to judge our new striker on what I observe and I like the look of him. Presumably you have arrived at your 8-10 goals based on his 1 per game so far then? we wont be getting penalties every game. Watched him in 4 games now. he huff's and puffs alot around the pitch and likes a challenge. honestly though, i do not see 15 goals in him. also, if caroll is eze's replacement, with chair playing on the left, then god help us. wycombe are gone, who goes with them is the question.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 17:29:36 GMT
It’s a relief to read that more posters are recognising that we have a very difficult season ahead of us due to our current squad looking so weak.
If some of us can see it why can’t MW open his eyes to and focus on setting the team up to defend cohesively...he could start by getting shot of zonal marking at set plays.
Last season I think we were likely to concede two goals per game ,I know it’s early doors but it looks like three this year.
I’m starting to think MW is on par with Alan Mullery,Paul Hart and Mick Hartford as our worst ever managers.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 21, 2020 17:37:10 GMT
I’m starting to think MW is on par with Alan Mullery,Paul Hart and Mick Hartford as our worst ever managers. You were doing alright until this ridiculous statement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 17:40:50 GMT
I’m starting to think MW is on par with Alan Mullery,Paul Hart and Mick Hartford as our worst ever managers. You were doing alright until this ridiculous statement. End of last season you kept harping on about a difficult season ahead..what’s changed ? Were you a lookout on the Titanic by any chance ?
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Sept 21, 2020 17:44:12 GMT
You were doing alright until this ridiculous statement. Last year you kept harping on about a difficult season ahead..what’s changed ? Were you a lookout on the Titanic by any chance ? How in the fuck can MW be named as possibly on par with the names you mentioned after what we achieved under him last season? Many had us tipped for relegation certainty after a massive squad overhaul on a shoestring budget, with a squad made up of freebies, loans and youngsters. The defensive side of the game was shite and still is, yes. But to finish where we did is some feat. If you honestly think that's as bad as the names you mentioned you need your head tested mate. And yeah, its gonna be a difficult season, we've lost our attacking threat. I've said no differently. But again, to have him in the same category as them is ridiculous.
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Post by bushcelt1 on Sept 21, 2020 17:48:18 GMT
It’s a relief to read that more posters are recognising that we have a very difficult season ahead of us due to our current squad looking so weak. If some of us can see it why can’t MW open his eyes to and focus on setting the team up to defend cohesively...he could start by getting shot of zonal marking at set plays. Last season I think we were likely to concede two goals per game ,I know it’s early doors but it looks like three this year. I’m starting to think MW is on par with Alan Mullery,Paul Hart and Mick Hartford as our worst ever managers. He's nowhere near as bad as the managers you have mentioned but he has to change his policy of trying to play keep ball. We put ourselfs under pressure from our keeper playing the ball out to defenders in tight situations and no longer have players in the middle of the park to hold onto it. Mw just doesn't have a plan B when it goes tits up and that will be more of an issue this season with a weaker team. The championship throws up plenty of suprises so i'm hoping we upset the odds again. Imo you make yourself hard to beat defensivly and work on your attack play then....not the other way round.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 18:01:32 GMT
When you may consider what players MW had at his disposal I honestly feel we should have done better.
As I have stated before what players has MW brought to the club other than the potential of Masterson and Amos ? Even then looking at the clubs they came from it was a no brainier.
The rest have been dross in my opinion...wasted salaries on Barbet,Ball,Wallace,Kelly who are cheaper but inferior to the players that have left.
Just because they were cheap is not a reason to bring them in if they are not fit for purpose.
At least it could be said Mullery and the rest didn’t ship goals for fun every week because like it or not that’s what we can expect this season.
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 21, 2020 18:05:05 GMT
We have a very poor midfield this season and not one of them seem to know how to protect our back line. I do not rate him that highly as every coach needs to adapt but this guy seems incapable of doing just that. I cannot believe after over a season in charge we are still as bad as day one from a defensive point of view.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 18:27:51 GMT
We have a very poor midfield this season and not one of them seem to know how to protect our back line. I do not rate him that highly as every coach needs to adapt but this guy seems incapable of doing just that. I cannot believe after over a season in charge we are still as bad as day one from a defensive point of view. Instead of renewing Cameron’s contract this year surely we could and should have looked at a better alternative. its as clear as day that his legs have gone and will play only a small part in this seasons battle against relegation...this to me is another wasted salary. .
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Post by West Acton on Sept 21, 2020 19:57:23 GMT
Looks like one season to far for Cameron
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 21, 2020 19:58:28 GMT
We have a very poor midfield this season and not one of them seem to know how to protect our back line. I do not rate him that highly as every coach needs to adapt but this guy seems incapable of doing just that. I cannot believe after over a season in charge we are still as bad as day one from a defensive point of view. Instead of renewing Cameron’s contract this year surely we could and should have looked at a better alternative. its as clear as day that his legs have gone and will play only a small part in this seasons battle against relegation...this to me is another wasted salary. And made captain no less. So will be under more pressure to pick him now.
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 21, 2020 22:27:56 GMT
we are in big trouble this seasn Stan. we are still shipping copious amounts of goals per game but at the same time, we do not have the players at the other end of the pitch to bang them in. watched dykes for for games now (2 for scotland) and he looks bang average. I was spot on, on this thread last season when i said hugill will bang in 10 to 15 goals and wells would get us between 15 and 20. this season, i can only see dykes getting 8 to 10 goals, oteh 2 to 4 goals. we are deep in the shit. You are in your element when you think we are in the shit. What a depressing outlook to have in life. I prefer to judge our new striker on what I observe and I like the look of him. Presumably you have arrived at your 8-10 goals based on his 1 per game so far then? But he makes a good point about crosses. Seriously lacking in the first two games with Dykes visibly frustrated.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 21, 2020 22:50:09 GMT
You are in your element when you think we are in the shit. What a depressing outlook to have in life. I prefer to judge our new striker on what I observe and I like the look of him. Presumably you have arrived at your 8-10 goals based on his 1 per game so far then? But he makes a good point about crosses. Seriously lacking in the first two games with Dykes visibly frustrated. I cant see where he makes that point Al? His negativity, glee when we lose and disappearance when we do well makes me very cynical unfortunately.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 21, 2020 22:51:52 GMT
We have a very poor midfield this season and not one of them seem to know how to protect our back line. I do not rate him that highly as every coach needs to adapt but this guy seems incapable of doing just that. I cannot believe after over a season in charge we are still as bad as day one from a defensive point of view. Instead of renewing Cameron’s contract this year surely we could and should have looked at a better alternative. its as clear as day that his legs have gone and will play only a small part in this seasons battle against relegation...this to me is another wasted salary. . I agree about Cameron. Way to early to be calling a relegation battle though. Actually ridiculously so. Whens our next six pointer I wonder??
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 21, 2020 23:09:51 GMT
But he makes a good point about crosses. Seriously lacking in the first two games with Dykes visibly frustrated. I cant see where he makes that point Al I think he meant 73's response: Hits, I think Dykes is half decent but needs crosses something our team never produce. We are less inventive this year and couple that with fact the manager ignores the defensive part of the game spells a long season for us.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 22, 2020 8:06:03 GMT
But he makes a good point about crosses. Seriously lacking in the first two games with Dykes visibly frustrated. I cant see where he makes that point Al I think he meant 73's response: Hits, I think Dykes is half decent but needs crosses something our team never produce. We are less inventive this year and couple that with fact the manager ignores the defensive part of the game spells a long season for us. Ah, that explains why I couldn't find it in hits posts. Yes, I think time will tell on that but he certainly looks like a striker who would thrive off them. Ironically, if Manning goes we will lose another crossing oulet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 8:25:47 GMT
Instead of renewing Cameron’s contract this year surely we could and should have looked at a better alternative. its as clear as day that his legs have gone and will play only a small part in this seasons battle against relegation...this to me is another wasted salary. . I agree about Cameron. Way to early to be calling a relegation battle though. Actually ridiculously so. Whens our next six pointer I wonder?? If you don’t think conceding 2+ goals per game under MW is relegation form then you need to wake up and smell the Coffee
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 22, 2020 8:44:37 GMT
I agree about Cameron. Way to early to be calling a relegation battle though. Actually ridiculously so. Whens our next six pointer I wonder?? If you don’t think conceding 2+ goals per game under MW is relegation form then you need to wake up and smell the Coffee The worry is there has been zero improvement on that front since he came. We will not outscore every team we play that is for certain so I agree this is going to be a long old season unless someone gets hold of him and sorts out this back line issue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 9:16:06 GMT
In 56 games under MW including Cup ,pre-season and mid-season friendly matches we have conceded 101 goal in 56 games..so just under 2 per game.
So we probably need to score 2 goals per match to get a league point this season...how ridiculous is this comment ?
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 22, 2020 9:32:12 GMT
In 56 games under MW including Cup ,pre-season and mid-season friendly matches we have conceded 101 goal in 56 games..so just under 2 per game. So we probably need to score 2 goals per match to get a league point this season...how ridiculous is this comment ? Shocking stats and any decent coach should feel the need to improve them.
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Post by Corbray on Sept 22, 2020 9:40:05 GMT
In 56 games under MW including Cup ,pre-season and mid-season friendly matches we have conceded 101 goal in 56 games..so just under 2 per game. So we probably need to score 2 goals per match to get a league point this season...how ridiculous is this comment ? i know in MW's most recent intervirw with LFW he went on about the work they put in defensively on the training ground and remarked that it pisses him off when us fans assume the club doesn't properly prepare. clearly their defensive coaching just isn't good enough, regardless of what warbs says. i don't doubt that he's a good coach who's good at developing players but he and the staff aren't good at the defensive aspect of coaching for sure. barbet and dickie are championship quality CB's imo so should be doing better. i understand that we play an attacking fluid style of football and thats great but other teams do the same and are able to concede less. we won't outscore opponents like last season when we had one of the best attacking lineups in the division as 3 of the 5 from that lineup have gone plus eze is simply irreplaceable so we need to adapt our style of play. warbs needs to get it in gear, i do think he will as he's the best manager we've had since warnock. we should be playing a 352 or 433 rather than a 4231 as it won't work out for us this season imo.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 22, 2020 10:23:18 GMT
warbs needs to get it in gear, i do think he will as he's the best manager we've had since warnock. Where's the evidence of this Corbs, regarding the defence? He's had over a season to get it right but with zero sign of improvement. This is the concern really. Will Coventry finally be a wake up call for him, or should he be sent there instead?
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Post by Corbray on Sept 22, 2020 10:45:00 GMT
warbs needs to get it in gear, i do think he will as he's the best manager we've had since warnock. Where's the evidence of this Corbs, regarding the defence? He's had over a season to get it right but with zero sign of improvement. This is the concern really. Will Coventry finally be a wake up call for him, or should he be sent there instead? he's a decent manager who's done 'well' wherever he's gone. he's also not an idiot and must know that defensively we need to do better so i do believe he will adapt. last season he had the luxury of having quality players in attack so our defence wasn't too much of an issue as we regularly outscored opponents anyway. this is just my opinion anyway but i understand why people doubt his ability to adapt as he has a track record for how he wants the team to set up. i like warbs as manager and would rather him as our manager than a boring type. last season was one of our most entertaining ones in a long time, when its good its really good but when its bad its frustrating but either way i like how we play even if we're only a midtable side as realistically thats our clubs level
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