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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 22, 2020 10:55:41 GMT
Where's the evidence of this Corbs, regarding the defence? He's had over a season to get it right but with zero sign of improvement. This is the concern really. Will Coventry finally be a wake up call for him, or should he be sent there instead? he's a decent manager who's done 'well' wherever he's gone. he's also not an idiot and must know that defensively we need to do better so i do believe he will adapt. last season he had the luxury of having quality players in attack so our defence wasn't too much of an issue as we regularly outscored opponents anyway. this is just my opinion anyway but i understand why people doubt his ability to adapt as he has a track record for how he wants the team to set up. i like warbs as manager and would rather him as our manager than a boring type. last season was one of our most entertaining ones in a long time, when its good its really good but when its bad its frustrating but either way i like how we play even if we're only a midtable side as realistically thats our clubs level Corbs, Not sure he was a success at Rangers or Forest where the same issues were his downfall. We were the 3rd worst defensive team in the division last season which means we were worse than a relegated team. So if we do not score the same amount of goals we will be bang in trouble as his mentality to defending is just not there. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 22, 2020 11:23:50 GMT
Agreed. He must know that defensively we need to do better so i do believe he will adapt. I sincerely hope so. If Coventry was not a final wake up call for him I don't know what will be. Two games into the season, now is the time to act on it when it's so obvious what the issues and dangers are. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 22, 2020 11:44:58 GMT
I agree about Cameron. Way to early to be calling a relegation battle though. Actually ridiculously so. Whens our next six pointer I wonder?? If you don’t think conceding 2+ goals per game under MW is relegation form then you need to wake up and smell the Coffee Well, without sounding picky, three goas in two league games is 1.5 and last year we conceded pretty much two a game without being relegated. Just for the record, I find our inability to defend frustrating and it could well be that we end up in a relegation battle come April, but I think to say so now after two league games, one of which we won is pathetically knee-jerk. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 22, 2020 11:53:41 GMT
If you don’t think conceding 2+ goals per game under MW is relegation form then you need to wake up and smell the Coffee Well, without sounding picky, three goas in two league games is 1.5 and last year we conceded pretty much two a game without being relegated. Just for the record, I find our inability to defend frustrating and it could well be that we end up in a relegation battle come April, but I think to say so now after two league games, one of which we won is pathetically knee-jerk. I agree it would be if it was solely based on the 2 games, I look at it since he got here and have to say I fear for us due to the lack of improvement defensively. since he arrived. |
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Post by bushcelt1 on Sept 22, 2020 11:56:29 GMT
If you don’t think conceding 2+ goals per game under MW is relegation form then you need to wake up and smell the Coffee Well, without sounding picky, three goas in two league games is 1.5 and last year we conceded pretty much two a game without being relegated. Just for the record, I find our inability to defend frustrating and it could well be that we end up in a relegation battle come April, but I think to say so now after two league games, one of which we won is pathetically knee-jerk. Thats true croydon but in the blink of an eye you are 10 games in and nothing might have changed...what then? We also are not as strong offensively this season so out scoring teams could be a big issue. MW never changed his style at rangers or forest which ultimutely cost him those jobs and i can see a pattern starting to emerge here. Hope i'm wrong and he nails ut because when we are playing well we look like a decent team |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 12:10:18 GMT
If you don’t think conceding 2+ goals per game under MW is relegation form then you need to wake up and smell the Coffee Well, without sounding picky, three goas in two league games is 1.5 and last year we conceded pretty much two a game without being relegated. Just for the record, I find our inability to defend frustrating and it could well be that we end up in a relegation battle come April, but I think to say so now after two league games, one of which we won is pathetically knee-jerk. You say we may well end up in trouble at the end of the season yet your also saying my comments are pathetic after two games. Are you hoping by burying your head in the sand that the problem will magically disappear ? The issues that MW brings by managing our club won’t go away and sitting on the fence trying to appear calm can only compound the problem. These inept tactics MW employs need to be addressed early not wait until the end of the season when the fat lady sings. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 22, 2020 12:20:15 GMT
Was the same at Rangers and that was with a budget 10 times anyone else in the league. When they were promoted Rodgers's Celtic destroyed them in an old firm game which was the begining of the end up there. A Rangers pal of mine called him a dud and that was based on his record with them.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 22, 2020 12:29:32 GMT
MW never changed his style at rangers or forest which ultimutely cost him those jobs and i can see a pattern starting to emerge here. Exact same can be said of Ollie and JFH before him. They stubbornly refused to change their styles which ultimately cost them their jobs (and arguably after much too long). You can see similar signs with MW. Croys, I think the point being made is it's not just after two games. It's two games (plus pre-season) plus ALL of last season of the exact same approach to our defending (or lack of it). As said earlier though, I truly hope the penny has finally dropped for him now as changing manager yet again is in nobody's interests. What Coventry proved beyond doubt is that we will no longer be able to out-score teams due to our now significantly weakened attacking options. Warbs surely has the intelligence to see this too so I trust this is the wake-up call he needed, AND that the next two weeks brings in the additions the squad needs to make continued progress on last season. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 22, 2020 22:05:41 GMT
Well, without sounding picky, three goas in two league games is 1.5 and last year we conceded pretty much two a game without being relegated. Just for the record, I find our inability to defend frustrating and it could well be that we end up in a relegation battle come April, but I think to say so now after two league games, one of which we won is pathetically knee-jerk. You say we may well end up in trouble at the end of the season yet your also saying my comments are pathetic after two games. Are you hoping by burying your head in the sand that the problem will magically disappear ? The issues that MW brings by managing our club won’t go away and sitting on the fence trying to appear calm can only compound the problem. These inept tactics MW employs need to be addressed early not wait until the end of the season when the fat lady sings. I wouldnt sack him no. He did well overall last season. We are finally playing and developing youngsters. So much so that a lad rejected by several clubs could net us 20m plus more on a sell on. We seem to have a bit of stability and are doing it on a reduced budget every season. We can't defend properly and it is very frustrating but overall we'd need to really be in trouble before I would consider it personally. Theres the coffee I managed to smell despite having my head buried in the sand. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 5:34:08 GMT
Croydon I fail to see how you infer that I sought your opinion should we sack MW ?
Your reply contains no real content or answers to issues raised about us being relegated due to MW failings.
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Post by Shania on Sept 23, 2020 9:04:52 GMT
Our strike force is way too thin. Two signings needed,or we may see ourselves in big trouble if Dykes get injured. Based on what I have seen of Smyth, we cannot really rely on him as a regular starter, imo. The other option we have is Marco Ramkilde who still very much is unknown quantity.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Sept 23, 2020 9:09:17 GMT
Croydon I fail to see how you infer that I sought your opinion should we sack MW ? Your reply contains no real content or answers to issues raised about us being relegated due to MW failings. You referred to him as one of our worse managers earlier in this thread I think. You remind me very much of another poster on another board but I am trying to remember where it was. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 4, 2020 22:06:10 GMT
Bonne 2 in 6
Dykes 2 in 8
Chair 2 in 10
Bonne has a good eye for goal I reckon. Two excellent headers by him so far.
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Post by acricketer on Nov 4, 2020 22:51:11 GMT
Bonne 2 in 6 Dykes 2 in 8 Chair 2 in 10 Bonne has a good eye for goal I reckon. Two excellent headers by him so far. Got mounting doubts about Dykes. Big hat no guns. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2020 23:07:19 GMT
Still early days to judge both Dykes and Bonne..Dykes looks to be more of a direct threat but both have received little to no real service.
It looks to be a frustrating time to lead the line for us just now as our build up play is so painfully slow which makes our strikers look static.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 4, 2020 23:30:12 GMT
Bonne 2 in 6 Dykes 2 in 8 Chair 2 in 10 Bonne has a good eye for goal I reckon. Two excellent headers by him so far. Got mounting doubts about Dykes. Big hat no guns. Looks good in the air. Too early to write him off I think. |
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Post by acricketer on Nov 4, 2020 23:32:00 GMT
I hope Dykes comes through for us. What would be a good goals return? 12?
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 4, 2020 23:40:16 GMT
Currently doing better for his country than his club. Agree it's too early to judge him.
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Post by 1973ranger on Nov 5, 2020 7:35:58 GMT
Currently doing better for his country than his club. Agree it's too early to judge him. They cross the ball into the box which helps. Last nights goal came from a centre half which tells you we create very little from midfield and on the wings. Hopefully Adomah gets up to speed and starts to feed Dykes and then we can see how is is. |
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Post by Corbray on Nov 5, 2020 9:31:26 GMT
i think dykes will be a success, he's still settling in and the difference between livingston and QPR is massive, plus livi play on a plastic pitch which obviously has its differences to grass.
once dykes settles in and gains more self belief he'll bag 10-12 this season.
same goes for bonne, he did well at charlton last season but this is still only his second season in the championship. he looks confident as ever though
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 7, 2020 19:50:23 GMT
Dykes 3 in 9 (all pens!)
Bonne 2 in 6
Chair 2 in 11
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Post by Tarbie on Nov 7, 2020 20:07:15 GMT
Dykes 3 in 9 (all pens!) Bonne 2 in 6 Chair 2 in 11 Not great reading. I think the issue lies in a lack of creativity in the midfield as opposed to the strikers not being good enough though. |
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Post by acricketer on Nov 7, 2020 21:19:05 GMT
I hope Dykes comes through for us. What would be a good goals return? 12? Only 9 more penalties needed now. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Nov 8, 2020 8:57:44 GMT
we are in big trouble this seasn Stan. we are still shipping copious amounts of goals per game but at the same time, we do not have the players at the other end of the pitch to bang them in. watched dykes for for games now (2 for scotland) and he looks bang average. I was spot on, on this thread last season when i said hugill will bang in 10 to 15 goals and wells would get us between 15 and 20. this season, i can only see dykes getting 8 to 10 goals, oteh 2 to 4 goals. we are deep in the shit. You are in your element when you think we are in the shit. What a depressing outlook to have in life. I prefer to judge our new striker on what I observe and I like the look of him. Presumably you have arrived at your 8-10 goals based on his 1 per game so far then? would be interested to know if after 10 games, your still of the same view. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Nov 8, 2020 9:00:53 GMT
Dykes 3 in 9 (all pens!) Bonne 2 in 6 Chair 2 in 11 Not great reading. I think the issue lies in a lack of creativity in the midfield as opposed to the strikers not being good enough though. you cannot keep blaming the midfield. crosses have been coming into the box from willock and adoma, dykes is nowhere to be seen. even bonne has managed two goals from crosses. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 8, 2020 9:06:15 GMT
There is also the problem of our game being so pedestrian. If we upped the tempo occasionally opponents wouldn't be so comfortable in defence. As soon as Willock comes on we see a bit of action.
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 8, 2020 9:08:44 GMT
Willock is getting fitter with each game. Has to be due a starting place soon and would expect to see more goals then. He looks a real threat.
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Post by Rangers77 on Nov 8, 2020 11:57:06 GMT
Not great reading. I think the issue lies in a lack of creativity in the midfield as opposed to the strikers not being good enough though. you cannot keep blaming the midfield. crosses have been coming into the box from willock and adoma, dykes is nowhere to be seen. even bonne has managed two goals from crosses. Too often positions himself in the middle of the goal before the cross comes in, not the back stick enabling him to attack the ball and meet it. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Nov 8, 2020 12:02:26 GMT
You are in your element when you think we are in the shit. What a depressing outlook to have in life. I prefer to judge our new striker on what I observe and I like the look of him. Presumably you have arrived at your 8-10 goals based on his 1 per game so far then? would be interested to know if after 10 games, your still of the same view. Enjoying the defeat as usual hits? I still like the look of him and 7 in 17 this season isn't too shabby is it? Certainly not as bad as you'd like it to be. #loveitwhenqprlose #loyalsupporter |
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Post by The General on Nov 8, 2020 14:29:58 GMT
Why is Mw so scared to play these two together he subs one for another all the time play them both up front ffs
Grow more balls please
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